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1 hour ago, Kharnak said:

I was looking at the b450 Tomahawk but it seems like the B450I Gaming Plus is better in the VRM department.

They dont compete with each other, being on opposite ends in feature set and form factor

 

and also the ITX board has bad cooling inherent for its small size, so it needs that better components to increase its efficiency as much as possible

 

1 hour ago, Kharnak said:

(a small handful of people have told me that B450 Tomahawk wont be anywhere near good enough for the 3900X oc'd)

I call that BS. This board (or rather, both) handled the 2700X maxed out, and 3900X draws about the same amount of power. 


"What's under the heatsink?" ep1, "Why it's not as good as it seem?" AMD fanboy edition out, episode 2 "Why my gaming board is a scam?" Intel fanboy edition coming soon (this is a link)

Hardware specs below

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.4?V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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2 hours ago, Jurrunio said:

They dont compete with each other, being on opposite ends in feature set and form factor

 

and also the ITX board has bad cooling inherent for its small size, so it needs that better components to increase its efficiency as much as possible

 

I call that BS. This board (or rather, both) handled the 2700X maxed out, and 3900X draws about the same amount of power. 

so you would say the Tomahawk or the ITX board is better for the 3900X for oc'ing to the CPU's limits? The Tomahawk does look better in terms of features for me at least, expansion slots for sound card etc

If we completely ignore VRM temps (i can solve any temp issues fairly easily with a custom cut copper block for a dollar or two) or adding a fan i guess

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1 minute ago, Kharnak said:

so you would say the Tomahawk or the ITX board is better for the 3900X for oc'ing to the CPU's limits? The Tomahawk does look better in terms of features for me at least, expansion slots for sound card etc

Maybe the ITX board will be worse off since brute forcing airflow to help the heat dissipation will help it less when the heatsinks are smaller.


"What's under the heatsink?" ep1, "Why it's not as good as it seem?" AMD fanboy edition out, episode 2 "Why my gaming board is a scam?" Intel fanboy edition coming soon (this is a link)

Hardware specs below

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.4?V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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16 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Maybe the ITX board will be worse off since brute forcing airflow to help the heat dissipation will help it less when the heatsinks are smaller.

Sounds fair enough yeah.

I think I'll just go with the Tomahawk B450 and try my luck.
If I can reach the same OC's as other people then whatever, right? :P

Thanks for the help!

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Damnit.

I just saw the B450 Mortar.. it has two M.2 ports which I really like the idea of.

Would the Mortar be be a lot worse than the Tomahawk in terms of VRM, i still see tons of people overclocking their 2700X to 4.x GHz so it should work, right? I will never ever use an APU so the lack of SOC vrm heatsinks is really no problem

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8 minutes ago, Kharnak said:

Damnit.

I just saw the B450 Mortar.. it has two M.2 ports which I really like the idea of.

Would the Mortar be be a lot worse than the Tomahawk in terms of VRM, i still see tons of people overclocking their 2700X to 4.x GHz so it should work, right? I will never ever use an APU so the lack of SOC vrm heatsinks is really no problem

It is worse but only by a little.

 

B450 Carbon has 2 M.2 slots and more on top of the Tomahawk so you can compare these two.


"What's under the heatsink?" ep1, "Why it's not as good as it seem?" AMD fanboy edition out, episode 2 "Why my gaming board is a scam?" Intel fanboy edition coming soon (this is a link)

Hardware specs below

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.4?V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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The thing is though, the Mortar is 20 bucks cheaper than the Tomahawk, and the B450 Carbon is 35-42ish bucks more expensive than the Tomahawk.

So price wise, the Mortar seems to make more sense right?

watching buildzoids video atm on the Mortar and he says manual OC 2700 should be fine on this, so it seems like its fine, ahh my brain 

 

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2 minutes ago, Kharnak said:

The thing is though, the Mortar is 20 bucks cheaper than the Tomahawk, and the B450 Carbon is 35-42ish bucks more expensive than the Tomahawk.

So price wise, the Mortar seems to make more sense right?

Yes


"What's under the heatsink?" ep1, "Why it's not as good as it seem?" AMD fanboy edition out, episode 2 "Why my gaming board is a scam?" Intel fanboy edition coming soon (this is a link)

Hardware specs below

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.4?V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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2 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Yes

Concise and to the point.
Thank you, haha!
I will just go ahead and order now.... wish me luck on the silicon lottery!

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Hello again.

 

I have b450 pro carbon ac board ordered for 3700x, but looking around internet, msi forums and subreddit there are tons of people who cant even get it to POST succesfully, same goes for other MSI b450 boards. I might be overthinking it, but maybe i should cancel it and go for X470 Asus prime pro? It's just a bit more expensive for me, like 10 or 12 euro.

Yes it lacks bios flashback but i might borrow a CPU for BIOS update but what concerns me is VRM heatsink, will it be fine for 8 core? It does not look functional at all.

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1 minute ago, Billy_Wellington said:

VRM heatsink, will it be fine for 8 core?

yeah, it's quite a big one actually

 

AMD hands out bootkits when you need them

 

btw, tomahawk does have a bios updater without cpu, not sure about pro carbon

 

and a lot of them forget to update the bios anyways


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CPU: i3-2130   GPU: Intel HD graphics   RAM: 4+2 GB 1333 mhz DDR3    MOBO: HP H series   HDD: 320 GB WD Black 7200 RPM   PSU: HP 250 watt   Case: Sunbeam Quarterback   Screen: IIyama Prolite T2240MTS, Samsung SyncMaster710N

 

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CPU: C2D E8400  RAM: 2x2+2x1 gb DDR3   HDD: 4x Samsung Spinpoint HD103SI 1TB   PSU: Acbel 320w 80+ gold

 

Laptop: HP Elitebook 8460p

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Just now, LukeSavenije said:

yeah, it's quite a big one actually

 

AMD hands out bootkits when you need them

 

btw, tomahawk does have a bios updater without cpu, not sure about pro carbon

 

and a lot of them forget to update the bios anyways

The thing about msi that people do update bios, but it doesnt post or post like 20% of time. MSI promised stable BIOS by the end of the month, but i'd like to dodge the bullet if possible.

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6 minutes ago, Billy_Wellington said:

The thing about msi that people do update bios, but it doesnt post or post like 20% of time. MSI promised stable BIOS by the end of the month, but i'd like to dodge the bullet if possible.

unfortunately the prime pro isn't that good in my opinion


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Primary PC:

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CPU: I5-8600k  @5 ghz  GPU: GTX 1070 ti EVGA SC Gaming   RAM: 8+8 3500 mhz DDR4 Trident Z   MOBO: MSI Gaming Pro Carbon AC   HDD: 1 TB 7200 RPM Seagate Baracudda, 1 TB 5400 RPM Samsung Spinpoint HD103SI   SSD: Samsung 860 EVO 500 GB   Soundcard: built in   Case: Cooler Master Masterbox Lite 5 RGB (modified)  PSU: CX550m

 

Secondary PC: Cedar mill

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CPU: i3-2130   GPU: Intel HD graphics   RAM: 4+2 GB 1333 mhz DDR3    MOBO: HP H series   HDD: 320 GB WD Black 7200 RPM   PSU: HP 250 watt   Case: Sunbeam Quarterback   Screen: IIyama Prolite T2240MTS, Samsung SyncMaster710N

 

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CPU: C2D E8400  RAM: 2x2+2x1 gb DDR3   HDD: 4x Samsung Spinpoint HD103SI 1TB   PSU: Acbel 320w 80+ gold

 

Laptop: HP Elitebook 8460p

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CPU: I5-2540m  GPU: Intel HD graphics   RAM: 8+4GB 1333 mhz DDR3   SSD: mx500 250gb  Screen: TN 768p

 

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2 hours ago, Billy_Wellington said:

It does not look functional at all.

true, even your finger is a better heatsink than that fashion accessory. MSI B450 Carbon should be fine even with the 16 core at stock, but the Prime Pro has no hope.

 

2 hours ago, Billy_Wellington said:

but looking around internet, msi forums and subreddit there are tons of people who cant even get it to POST succesfully, same goes for other MSI b450 boards.

Imo that's because there are also tons of people buying their boards for the bios flashback feature.


"What's under the heatsink?" ep1, "Why it's not as good as it seem?" AMD fanboy edition out, episode 2 "Why my gaming board is a scam?" Intel fanboy edition coming soon (this is a link)

Hardware specs below

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.4?V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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1 hour ago, Billy_Wellington said:

This is the first time i am genuinely confused about picking the right hardware.

welcome to motherboards


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Primary PC:

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CPU: I5-8600k  @5 ghz  GPU: GTX 1070 ti EVGA SC Gaming   RAM: 8+8 3500 mhz DDR4 Trident Z   MOBO: MSI Gaming Pro Carbon AC   HDD: 1 TB 7200 RPM Seagate Baracudda, 1 TB 5400 RPM Samsung Spinpoint HD103SI   SSD: Samsung 860 EVO 500 GB   Soundcard: built in   Case: Cooler Master Masterbox Lite 5 RGB (modified)  PSU: CX550m

 

Secondary PC: Cedar mill

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CPU: i3-2130   GPU: Intel HD graphics   RAM: 4+2 GB 1333 mhz DDR3    MOBO: HP H series   HDD: 320 GB WD Black 7200 RPM   PSU: HP 250 watt   Case: Sunbeam Quarterback   Screen: IIyama Prolite T2240MTS, Samsung SyncMaster710N

 

Server: CookieVault

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CPU: C2D E8400  RAM: 2x2+2x1 gb DDR3   HDD: 4x Samsung Spinpoint HD103SI 1TB   PSU: Acbel 320w 80+ gold

 

Laptop: HP Elitebook 8460p

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CPU: I5-2540m  GPU: Intel HD graphics   RAM: 8+4GB 1333 mhz DDR3   SSD: mx500 250gb  Screen: TN 768p

 

Consoles:

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PS4 slim glacier white 500 gb, PS4 FTP Special Edition 500 gb, Xbox, 3 DS lites, DSI XL, Gameboy Advanced Color, PS Vita v2, Wii, PS3 500 gb

 

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Came across a "newish" GigaByte B450 Motherboard. The Gaming X ATX Mobo. Have not yet found remarkable reviews or even customer reviews.

 

Anything I should know about this board? VRM phases&VRM cooling efficiency, CPU&RAM OC-abilites? It's very cheap though, roughly at the same price as B450 Pro4 By Asrock.

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2 hours ago, Vejnemojnen said:

Anything I should know about this board?

Intersil ISL95712

4+3

1x ON Semiconductor 4C10N + 2x ON Semiconductor 4C06N

1x ON Semiconductor 4C10N + 1x ON Semiconductor 4C06N

no doublers

 

so the same as the aorus m, elite and pro (non-wifi)


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Primary PC:

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CPU: I5-8600k  @5 ghz  GPU: GTX 1070 ti EVGA SC Gaming   RAM: 8+8 3500 mhz DDR4 Trident Z   MOBO: MSI Gaming Pro Carbon AC   HDD: 1 TB 7200 RPM Seagate Baracudda, 1 TB 5400 RPM Samsung Spinpoint HD103SI   SSD: Samsung 860 EVO 500 GB   Soundcard: built in   Case: Cooler Master Masterbox Lite 5 RGB (modified)  PSU: CX550m

 

Secondary PC: Cedar mill

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CPU: i3-2130   GPU: Intel HD graphics   RAM: 4+2 GB 1333 mhz DDR3    MOBO: HP H series   HDD: 320 GB WD Black 7200 RPM   PSU: HP 250 watt   Case: Sunbeam Quarterback   Screen: IIyama Prolite T2240MTS, Samsung SyncMaster710N

 

Server: CookieVault

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CPU: C2D E8400  RAM: 2x2+2x1 gb DDR3   HDD: 4x Samsung Spinpoint HD103SI 1TB   PSU: Acbel 320w 80+ gold

 

Laptop: HP Elitebook 8460p

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CPU: I5-2540m  GPU: Intel HD graphics   RAM: 8+4GB 1333 mhz DDR3   SSD: mx500 250gb  Screen: TN 768p

 

Consoles:

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PS4 slim glacier white 500 gb, PS4 FTP Special Edition 500 gb, Xbox, 3 DS lites, DSI XL, Gameboy Advanced Color, PS Vita v2, Wii, PS3 500 gb

 

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3 hours ago, Vejnemojnen said:

It's very cheap though, roughly at the same price as B450 Pro4 By Asrock.

it'd better be cheap since it's only a bit less bad.


"What's under the heatsink?" ep1, "Why it's not as good as it seem?" AMD fanboy edition out, episode 2 "Why my gaming board is a scam?" Intel fanboy edition coming soon (this is a link)

Hardware specs below

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.4?V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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3 hours ago, Vejnemojnen said:

Came across a "newish" GigaByte B450 Motherboard. The Gaming X ATX Mobo. Have not yet found remarkable reviews or even customer reviews.

 

Anything I should know about this board? VRM phases&VRM cooling efficiency, CPU&RAM OC-abilites? It's very cheap though, roughly at the same price as B450 Pro4 By Asrock.

B450M gaming plus has a better VRM around the same price, and budget msi boards are great with memory oc while cpu oc is probably about the same as most others in that price bracket.


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12 hours ago, TheDankKoosh said:

B450M gaming plus has a better VRM around the same price, and budget msi boards are great with memory oc while cpu oc is probably about the same as most others in that price bracket.

I know. I always recommend Gaming Plus or Bazooka V2 for cheap gamer Mobo for Ryzen.

 

BUT, I just wanted to know, if there is anything remarkable about that GB board :) 

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I was initially looking to buy a x570 to make my 3600 work at peak performance, but now with this tread I'm just confuse as of what to buy anymore. I just don't like the hassle of BIOS and I'm worried not choosing X570 will cause problems in the long run...

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For anybody wondering, the asrock b450 steel legend is able to take a 3700X up to 4.35Ghz


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Behesda PC:

CPU: Ryzen 7 3700X

motorbored: ASUS ROG X570 Crosshair VIII Hero

Graphics: PNY XLR8 gaming GTX 1060 3GB

Memeory-Rams: 16GB Corsair Vengeance Pro RGB 3200

SSD’s: 256GB 860 EVO, 2TB WD Blue SATA m.2

PheadHones: SteelSeries Arctis 5’s (in white!)

MacroPwn: Blue yeti nano

Keybored: Logitech G413 Carbon

Moose: Logitech G502 Hero

Monitor: 1600x900 21.5 " Gateway monitor

PSU: Corsair RM 650X

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CrumpleBox:

CPU: i5-6400

Mobo:

Memory:

HDD:

GPU: GTX 770 with an Original titan cooler

PSU:

Cooling:

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T.R. (ThirdRig)

CPU:i5-6400

Motherboard:MSI b150m mortar

Memory: 8GB DDR4 2133

HDD: Hitatchi 320GB

GPU: GTX 770

PSU:TT 700W RGB

Case: TT V 21

 

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56 minutes ago, GrockleTD said:

For anybody wondering, the asrock b450 steel legend is able to take a 3700X up to 4.35Ghz

with mosfet temperature measurement?


"What's under the heatsink?" ep1, "Why it's not as good as it seem?" AMD fanboy edition out, episode 2 "Why my gaming board is a scam?" Intel fanboy edition coming soon (this is a link)

Hardware specs below

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.4?V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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Tech Yes City tested a r5 3600 on a Gigabyte A320, and it works more than you'd expect. This gives me new hope that I can just update the mb and slap me sum 3600 and don't mind the x570 or b450s


I'm slightly above potato, but I'm getting there...

Not-so-Poor Man's Land:

Ryzen 3 2200G with Stock Cooler (CPU @ 3.8 GHz @1.312V, iGPU @ 1500MHz @ 1.1V),

TeamGroup T-Force Delta DDR4 Gaming 16GB (2x8GB) 16-17-17-37-58 @ 1.35V,

Hard D's are WD 1TB Blue & SeaGate Barracuda (old) 500 GB 7.2k,

DeepCool Wave V2 case with DeepCool DE500 V2,

Display: BenQ GL 2070 on DVI

Keyboard: Generic PS/2 Keyboard

Mouse: Generic USB Mouse

And yes, there are no fans. No fan power needed!

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