Motherboard Tier List (EOL)

[LukeSavenije]

we have added a VRM list to the thread, made by a couple of us

 

with some brand new x570 info included!

[Oalei]

I like the naming because its probably what I'm gonna name it honestly like what else could I name a motherboard tier list? 

[LukeSavenije]

5 minutes ago, Oalei said:

I like the naming because its probably what I'm gonna name it honestly like what else could I name a motherboard tier list? 

what motherboard should i get?

motherboards per category

motherboard category list

vrm tier list 

 

but yeah, motherboard tier list still sounds best

[Oalei]

2 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

what motherboard should i get?

motherboards per category

motherboard category list

vrm tier list 

 

but yeah, motherboard tier list still sounds best

See the ones you list cannot deliver the message to like very unknowledegable people basically me before this account even made or wander through forum like Tom's hardware and stuff. 

IMO the first one look stupid if you don't include like features,AIO and stuff like no point at all to being mention ever, I mean the websites have all the features listed in the manual and can be downloaded.

[LukeSavenije]

2 minutes ago, Oalei said:

mean the websites have all the features listed

and yet none of them list the actual vrm setup... so that's what we did with this update

[Oalei]

1 minute ago, LukeSavenije said:

and yet none of them list the actual vrm setup... so that's what we did with this update

Well the first one is like a requirements for certain amount of needs like maybe floppy disk header thingy or audio header IDK what that's even called so you get what I'm saying but most people wouldn't even need it but probably someone would so it's like a specific stuff to talk about rather than seeing something like this. 

[Oalei]

with that doc files how do i recognize if its double the phase so like a big phase or not?

[Jurrunio]

24 minutes ago, Oalei said:

with that doc files how do i recognize if its double the phase so like a big phase or not?

I didnt care about one or two inductor per phase. Big phases just count as 2 low side and 2 high side mosfets or two powerstages per phase.

[Oalei]

5 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

I didnt care about one or two inductor per phase. Big phases just count as 2 low side and 2 high side mosfets or two powerstages per phase.

well that seems fair enough thanks dude

[euviridis]

I'm conflicted between msi b450m gaming plus and asrock b450m steel legend, which one is better? or is there any other good b450m alternatives?

[LukeSavenije]

Just now, euviridis said:

I'm conflicted between msi b450m gaming plus and asrock b450m steel legend, which one is better? or is there any other good b450m alternatives?

both are decent

 

but i'd give the pro4 a look

[euviridis]

1 minute ago, LukeSavenije said:

both are decent

 

but i'd give the pro4 a look

I can look at it but honestly I really can't tell if a motherboard is good or not from the specsheet, what I understand from the specsheet are things like: how many pci slot, how many sata slot, m.2 slot, etc. I know VRM is important but I can't tell which one is better

[LukeSavenije]

3 minutes ago, euviridis said:

I can look at it but honestly I really can't tell if a motherboard is good or not from the specsheet, what I understand from the specsheet are things like: how many pci slot, how many sata slot, m.2 slot, etc. I know VRM is important but I can't tell which one is better

the specsheet isn't important for people that don't understand it

 

what you should know: the steel legend, gaming pro and pro4 are in powerdelivery close enough to each other

[SliceT]

47 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

both are decent

 

but i'd give the pro4 a look

The Legend is better for sure.

[LukeSavenije]

Just now, SliceT said:

The Legend is better for sure.

how is it? same vrms, but in 4+2 rather than fat 3+2

[SliceT]

Besides better VRMs also the heatsinks are better.

[Oalei]

13 minutes ago, SliceT said:

Besides better VRMs also the heatsinks are better.

isnt steel legend just a re-model X370 K4? 

[LukeSavenije]

1 hour ago, SliceT said:

Besides better VRMs also the heatsinks are better.

vrms aren't better

 

heatsinks? meh, a little

1 hour ago, Oalei said:

isnt steel legend just a re-model X370 K4? 

x470, but it's a little different. the k4 does run parallel

[Oalei]

31 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

x470, but it's a little different. the k4 does run parallel

oh yeah its the same X370 have the same controller as taichi but with medicore mosfets i dont think it will benefit from anything (im sure its the same as every mosfet on asrock except taichi). Idk what parallel is tbh.

[LukeSavenije]

4 minutes ago, Oalei said:

Idk what parallel is tbh.

same as what i call fat phases

[Oalei]

20 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

same as what i call fat phases

so its worse than doublers but better than normal ones hmmmmm so its x2 better than normal 4 phase low stuff from semi-con or somewhere else.

[Jurrunio]

5 hours ago, euviridis said:

I'm conflicted between msi b450m gaming plus and asrock b450m steel legend, which one is better? or is there any other good b450m alternatives?

for overclocking, definitely the Gaming Plus. Mosfets are more efficient, same number of mosfets and bigger heatsink means better CPU core power delivery. Less memory slots also means better memory overclocking (less signal interference as distance to the CPU is reduced)

 

5 hours ago, SliceT said:

The Legend is better for sure.

better looking maybe

[Heflo]

I remember seeing in the past a spreadsheet categorizing mobos where you go from left to right and top to bottom to find the best mobo that suites your budget / specifications, is this still a thing?

Or in a different way of asking - what is the best way to differentiate between mobos of the same tier from this post?

 

[Jurrunio]

40 minutes ago, Heflo said:

I remember seeing in the past a spreadsheet categorizing mobos where you go from left to right and top to bottom to find the best mobo that suites your budget / specifications, is this still a thing?

the one from AlphaC in overclock.net, yes.

 

43 minutes ago, Heflo said:

what is the best way to differentiate between mobos of the same tier from this post?

We only cover the power delivery capabilities, so you'd better still check the official spec page for features like fan header count or USB port configuration.

[TheDankKoosh]

I'm thinking about picking up a x370GT7 since they are at a great price, have great vrm potential, and already have a bios out for zen 2. I am curious about how well they've come along in the memory overclocking department and what kind of memory topology they are running. Any information would be great.