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Motherboard Tier List (now with included vrm list)

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40 minutes ago, Heflo said:

I remember seeing in the past a spreadsheet categorizing mobos where you go from left to right and top to bottom to find the best mobo that suites your budget / specifications, is this still a thing?

the one from AlphaC in overclock.net, yes.

 

43 minutes ago, Heflo said:

what is the best way to differentiate between mobos of the same tier from this post?

We only cover the power delivery capabilities, so you'd better still check the official spec page for features like fan header count or USB port configuration.


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CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.4?V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

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I'm thinking about picking up a x370GT7 since they are at a great price, have great vrm potential, and already have a bios out for zen 2. I am curious about how well they've come along in the memory overclocking department and what kind of memory topology they are running. Any information would be great.


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35 minutes ago, TheDankKoosh said:

how well they've come along in the memory overclocking department

well... still not that good compared to compatitiors, especially the gt8 had problems with going above 3000 mhz. so if you're doing it for memory oc, i'd get something else


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57 minutes ago, TheDankKoosh said:

memory overclocking department

I have seen it doing 3200MHz CL14 with 4 4gb sticks with a 2600X, which is awful compared to say, a mid range B450 board from Asus Asrock or MSI. Not optimisitc in any way even with Zen 2's memory controller


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CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.4?V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

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31 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

well... still not that good compared to compatitiors, especially the gt8 had problems with going above 3000 mhz. so if you're doing it for memory oc, i'd get something else

 

4 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

I have seen it doing 3200MHz CL14 with 4 4gb sticks with a 2600X, which is awful compared to say, a mid range B450 board from Asus Asrock or MSI. Not optimisitc in any way even with Zen 2's memory controller

I see, thanks for the heads up then, I'll probably just spend the extra $30 for the taichi then, has the bios improved at all for that at least?


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Just now, TheDankKoosh said:

 

I see, thanks for the heads up then, I'll probably just spend the extra $30 for the taichi then, has the bios improved at all for that at least?

i've heard some positive things about asrocks current bios, and gigabyte is soon to renew it too

 

taichi is quite the board, i'd take it


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4 minutes ago, TheDankKoosh said:

 

I see, thanks for the heads up then, I'll probably just spend the extra $30 for the taichi then, has the bios improved at all for that at least?

just $30 extra for a Taichi? Then I honestly see zero reason to get Biostar.

 

I know some people dont like the bios, but I'm fine with Asrock :D You can even say I'm a bit of an Asrock fanboy, though I hate them cutting away features from existing names, adding them back with new names and sell them at a higher price. Taichi versus Taichi Ultimate and Phantom Gaming and Professional Gaming basically


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Hardware specs below

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.4?V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

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4 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

i've heard some positive things about asrocks current bios, and gigabyte is soon to renew it too

 

taichi is quite the board, i'd take it

I am a bit skeptical though since they haven't put out a zen 2 bios yet, my whole plan is to get a high end x370 board and make a new zen 2 build around it since high end x370 boards can be had for cheap.


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2 minutes ago, TheDankKoosh said:

I am a bit skeptical though since they haven't put out a zen 2 bios yet, my whole plan is to get a high end x370 board and make a new zen 2 build around it since high end x370 boards can be had for cheap.

ah, i see

 

then give it some time... the new cpu's have to come out anyways


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2 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

just $30 extra for a Taichi? Then I honestly see zero reason to get Biostar.

 

I know some people dont like the bios, but I'm fine with Asrock :D You can even say I'm a bit of an Asrock fanboy, though I hate them cutting away features from existing names, adding them back with new names and sell them at a higher price. Taichi versus Taichi Ultimate and Phantom Gaming and Professional Gaming basically

Well, the older bios revisions used to be a huge pain to overclock on with constant memory training problems, and I'm planning on getting zen 2 and a kit of CJR, so I need that to be a non issue when I get a new board.


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3 minutes ago, TheDankKoosh said:

I am a bit skeptical though since they haven't put out a zen 2 bios yet, my whole plan is to get a high end x370 board and make a new zen 2 build around it since high end x370 boards can be had for cheap.

how cheap? Just curious, it is possible that B550 can dip in price with PCIe 4.0 cut off.


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Hardware specs below

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.4?V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

how cheap? Just curious, it is possible that B550 can dip in price with PCIe 4.0 cut off.

$160 for a taichi, $130 for a strix, $130 for a GT7, prices around that for a fair bit of older high end boards.


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1 minute ago, TheDankKoosh said:

$160 for a taichi, $130 for a strix, $130 for a GT7, prices around that for a fair bit of older high end boards.

X370-F? Great deal on that if it is the case, at least none of the memory overclocking issue. Being 6 phase of 60A powerstages do mean 12 core could be limited in its overclocking, let alone the 16 core though the CPU could be hard to cool at that point anyway


"What's under the heatsink?" ep1, "Why it's not as good as it seem?" AMD fanboy edition out, episode 2 "Why my gaming board is a scam?" Intel fanboy edition coming soon (this is a link)

Hardware specs below

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.4?V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

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1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

X370-F? Great deal on that if it is the case, at least none of the memory overclocking issue. Being 6 phase of 60A powerstages do mean 12 core could be limited in its overclocking, let alone the 16 core.

Only reason I don't want to go for the strix is due to the t-topology, otherwise the vrm output is about the same as the taichi, just harder to cool.


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Ram: 16gb geil 3000 16-18-18-18-36 @ 3200 16-12-19-15-24

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18 minutes ago, TheDankKoosh said:

Only reason I don't want to go for the strix is due to the t-topology, otherwise the vrm output is about the same as the taichi, just harder to cool.

Taichi has higher output potential, being 12 phase 40A.

 

also maybe X470 will get cheap when X570 and B550 come, maybe new boards overclock better than even X470, can only wait and see.


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Hardware specs below

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.4?V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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11 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Taichi has higher output potential, being 12 phase 40A.

 

also maybe X470 will get cheap when X570 and B550 come, maybe new boards overclock better than even X470, can only wait and see.

I highly doubt that x570 will really be worth it for my use case since I'm just going to be using an 8 core and 16gb of good ram, the memory controller is the is main limiter on current ryzen anyhow.


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Just now, TheDankKoosh said:

I highly doubt that x570 will really be worth it for my use case since I'm just going to be using an 8 core and 16gb of good ram, the memory controller is the is main limiter on current ryzen anyhow.

that's why I also mention B550. There just isn't enough information to judge all of them correctly.


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6 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

that's why I also mention B550. There just isn't enough information to judge all of them correctly.

I'd much rather get a high end x370 board over a b550 just due to high end x370 being perfect for this kind of release, I'll probably get in touch with an Asrock rep and ask about bios updates to their high end lineup. 


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Just now, TheDankKoosh said:

I'd much rather get a high end x370 board over a b550 just due to high end x370 being perfect for this kind of release, I'll probably get in touch with an Asrock rep and ask about bios updates to their high end lineup. 

the thing with B550 is that with X570 base models (i.e. the "chipset-swap" B550) start at $150, and those already start with something like a 6 phase while using 6 layer PCB for PCIe 4.0. I speculate that some of the more high end B550 might just carry over what the cheaper X570 has, which means inherenting their memory OC capability


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8 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

the thing with B550 is that with X570 base models (i.e. the "chipset-swap" B550) start at $150, and those already start with something like a 6 phase while using 6 layer PCB for PCIe 4.0. I speculate that some of the more high end B550 might just carry over what the cheaper X570 has, which means inherenting their memory OC capability

I would just rather go with the 12 phase that the taichi is using over an entry level 6 phase, it seems that Asrock are going to be support most b350 and x370 boards along with their 400 series, and obviously the taichi will be on that list. I wonder how far amd was able to push memory clocks for zen 2 cause I want to get at least 3733 cl 16 on a kit of CJR if possible.


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hi, I was wondering if anyone could recommend a good board.

 

I v read all the comments and took a good look at the tier list and spreadsheet but I still cant decide whats best in my case.

 

I m running a 1700 at base core + 2x8gb trident kit 3200 CL14 on my msi b350 tomahawk. Never was I able to go full 3200mhz on my RAM, max was 2400 but only briefly. I almost tried every bios the board had to offer but it became worse im now at 2133. Besides the ram issues the board had many more problems and msi support did not help at all.

 

I m now unsure what to do I was thinking of replacing it since fall 2018. I m quite happy with my 1700 and wont upgrade anytime soon.

 

I have a limited budget of around 100 +/- 20. I v read how good the msi b420 boards are but my trust in msi is quite gone to be honest. Is there anything besides the msi boards in that price range that could run my ram and give me some oc space for my ryzen?

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4 hours ago, heAd3r said:

hi, I was wondering if anyone could recommend a good board.

question before i do: have you updated the bios and chipset in any time? there used to be some memory problems on first gen, that got patched out


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5 hours ago, LukeSavenije said:

question before i do: have you updated the bios and chipset in any time? there used to be some memory problems on first gen, that got patched out

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I dont know the exact BIOS I m currently using but it must be either 7A34v1K or 7A34v1L (late 2018/early 2019); I updated in order to see if its possible to get  above 2133 but it never worked no matter if I use xmp profiles or manually. I updated the chipset to the latest available in january. 

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Just now, heAd3r said:

I dont know the exact BIOS I m currently using but it must be either 7A34v1K or 7A34v1L (late 2018/early 2019); I updated in order to see when its possible to get  above 2133 but it never worked no matter if I use xmp profiles or manually. I updated the chipset to the latest available in january. 

hm... just try it first... if that doesn't work i can help with picking a different one

 

except if you want to do that right now

 

and btw, b350 and x370 msi's were quite rushed, the b450/x470/x570's are so much better and they even have the (imo) best motherboard on x399


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30 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

hm... just try it first... if that doesn't work i can help with picking a different one

 

except if you want to do that right now

 

and btw, b350 and x370 msi's were quite rushed, the b450/x470/x570's are so much better and they even have the (imo) best motherboard on x399

There is only one BIOS left to try I wont bother I think; the chance it will suddenly work is slim I believe.

 

I v heard only good things about the b450's and x470's from MSI and I wont rule them out completely just because one board was garbage

 

would be neat if u could recommend one that fits what I need it for besides the msi b450 tomahawk/mortar btw. how much difference in performance and vram is between tier a and b? is it signifcant

 

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