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Graphics Card (Cooling/VRM) Tier List (Navi Update)

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Posted · Original PosterOP
5 minutes ago, theMorzan said:

 

there isn't really a price idea in the list, but tier b+ is ideal, tier c is okay and tier d not preferred


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D tier reporting for duty.

 

No regrets.

 

The reference PCB is actually quite good compared to some of the AIBs.


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Just now, Plutosaurus said:

D tier reporting for duty.

 

No regrets.

 

The reference PCB is actually quite good compared to some of the AIBs.

the pcb is good

 

but this is tiered on cooling mostly...


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3 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

the pcb is good

 

but this is tiered on cooling mostly...

 

I'm not disagreeing with the list (proudly D tier and reporting for duty) but also no shame in being D tier.

 

Cooling performance is fine even with an OC, but it's definitely loud AF with the fan speed as high as it needs to be to maintain it.

 

In some cases, blowers are beneficial over open air (get it, CASES? HAHAHA), and in many cases, they are great for aftermarket cooling.

 

I'd like to just point out that the cooling method is just one part of the puzzle.

 

 

 

 


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6 minutes ago, Plutosaurus said:

I'm not disagreeing with the list (proudly D tier and reporting for duty) but also no shame in being D tier.

 

Cooling performance is fine even with an OC, but it's definitely loud AF with the fan speed as high as it needs to be to maintain it.

 

In some cases, blowers are beneficial over open air (get it, CASES? HAHAHA), and in many cases, they are great for aftermarket cooling.

 

I'd like to just point out that the cooling method is just one part of the puzzle.

i mean... there are some single fan cards there too, just because they don't perform well compared to others

 

tier d isn't bad, it just cools bad


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39 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

i mean... there are some single fan cards there too, just because they don't perform well compared to others

 

tier d isn't bad, it just cools bad

It can cool better than higher tier cards in some scenarios, though.

 

These lists are fine but having a tier list for everything sometimes feels a bit out of hand.

 

 

 

 


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Auros 2080 Ti has great overclocking performance but the cooler is tier C or B at best


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1 hour ago, SigmaDire said:

Auros 2080 Ti has great overclocking performance but the cooler is tier C or B at best

it's in tier b, where it should be

 

except if you show me otherwise


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25 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

it's in tier b, where it should be

 

except if you show me otherwise

excuse me if I am mistaken but the Aorus and Aorus extreme(tier A) are literally exactly the same except one has a RGB backplate, a GPU support stand and like less than 90mhz core boost

 

guess I ment to say extreme, in my mind they are exactly the same EXCEPT I WANT DAT RGB BACK PLATE but functionally I mean


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13 minutes ago, SigmaDire said:

literally exactly the same except one has a RGB backplate, a GPU support stand and like less than 90mhz core boost

hm... it seems only on 2000 series to be the same cooler.. interesting


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46 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

hm... it seems only on 2000 series to be the same cooler.. interesting

not to be a total nerd but all the cards I have seen from 10 series both have windforce 3x 100MM on both cards.... to be fair though even the best 2080 ti coolers I have seen compared are like 4C difference vs this not huge margins in either OCing or Temps for anything but FTW 3 so idk about past cards but I guess it could either tier a/b since the entire delta field for 2080 ti is sparse which is worse considering the huge ~$500 price discrepancies....

 

in any case either card could be said to be at the top of gigabytes skews and their cards should perform as good as any AIB so either is fine probably, this is very nuance tbh.


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40 minutes ago, 486DX Win3.1 said:

What's on the E tier ?? Some AliBaba cards?

If there was an E tier then it would probably contain the worst GPU coolers ever imaginable.

To be honest I wouldn't be surprised if the cheap Taobao/Aliexpress knockoff cards were in Tier E.


 

 

 

 

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I have a question about gigabytes aorus rtx 2080 windforce 8gb. When you compare it to the gigabyte geforce rtx 2080 windforce 8gb oc, the performance difference is little to none but the price differences by 100 dollars. Please if anyone can help it would be greatly appreciated!

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22 minutes ago, Asaltnado said:

I have a question about gigabytes aorus rtx 2080 windforce 8gb. When you compare it to the gigabyte geforce rtx 2080 windforce 8gb oc, the performance difference is little to none but the price differences by 100 dollars. Please if anyone can help it would be greatly appreciated!

correct, and it's just for a factory overclock and maybe some higher binning

 

Imo not worth it


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why palit stormx ranked that low? The 1660 and 1660Ti StormX models have pretty decent cooling (effective heatsink) while their fans are not that loud at all, and they can be OC-d reasonably well. I guessed they should be around mid-level?

 

Where can other Gainward cards be? BC they are particularly cheap, so, I guess some cost-cutting.. Putting ASUS Dual to mid-range seems interesting: AFAIK the 1660Ti model is incredibly hot, often builds up heat above 80-84 degrees of C. Are the RTX models or earlier GTX10xx models better in terms of cooling? Because the 1660 Dual Asus is kind of a garbage.


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55 minutes ago, Vejnemojnen said:

palit stormx ranked that low? The 1660 and 1660Ti StormX models have pretty decent cooling (effective heatsink) while their fans are not that loud at all, and they can be OC-d reasonably well

I'll have to look into that, will come back to you about that later

 

56 minutes ago, Vejnemojnen said:

Where can other Gainward cards be?

gainward=palit

 

56 minutes ago, Vejnemojnen said:

Are the RTX models or earlier GTX10xx models better in terms of cooling?

yeah, not those temps for sure, I'll look into that one too


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On 3/19/2019 at 12:58 PM, LukeSavenije said:

 

Just saying, I'd move AORUS GTX cards up to the top. From my experience with my card, it has exceptional cooling for its class. I don't think there's a card (other than the STRIX 1660 Ti) that matches it. Other than that, I really love your tier list though! :D


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Maybe on the 580 the Powercolor Red Dragon is low tier, but on the vega 56 it's a mid-top tier cooler along with the pulse. And ventus should be moved to low end, it has the lowest power limit for every class of Nvidia card.

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17 hours ago, hello_there_123 said:

Maybe on the 580 the Powercolor Red Dragon is low tier, but on the vega 56 it's a mid-top tier cooler along with the pulse

you know those are two different coolers, right?


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B Tier reporting for duty.


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Custom cooling not on the list like e.g. EkWB blocks etc?


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2 hours ago, TheNaitsyrk said:

Custom cooling not on the list like e.g. EkWB blocks etc?

When we were making the list we didn't think about including custom cooling. If you want I can try to get it added to the list for you.


 

 

 

 

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13 minutes ago, XR6 said:

When we were making the list we didn't think about including custom cooling. If you want I can try to get it added to the list for you.

Ye would be epic man. Still counts as liquid cooling after all. Like Sea Hawk X is one of them, EKWB custom blocks etc. 


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GPU: Water cooled RTX 2080 Ti Founders Edition SLI (+170 Core) (+930 memory) (2145 boost clock on both) with EKWB Vector blocks on each.

Case: ThermalTake X9.

Storage: 2x Samsung EVO 970 1TB NVMe (3500MB/S Read, 3300MB/S Write), 2x Samsung EVO 860 500GB SSD, 1x Samsung EVO 860 4TB SSD, 2x 2TB Seagate Barracuda.

PSU: Corsair AX1600i with custom black and red cables.

Display: 3x Ultrawide Acer Predator X34P 34" Inch G-Sync 120Hz displays IPS with Nvidia surround running at 10320 x 1440 120Hz.

Cooling: Custom Loop EKWB CoolStream 480mm XE 3x radiators and 1x EKWB CoolStream 240mm XE radiator with 2x D5 Revo RGB PUMP, 14x Noctua Industrial 3000RPM fans on rads and 2x in the case, 200mm ThermalTake 800RPM fan (front).

VR: Pimax 4K with NOLO VR.

Keyboard: Corsair K70 LUX RGB.

Sound: T6300 Creative 5.1 speakers.

Mouse: Logitech G502 Proteus Spectrum.

Piano: Yamaha P155.

Phone: Razer Phone 2.

Smart watch: Moto 360 2nd Gen.

Camera: Logitech C922.

3D Printer: Creality Ender 3 Pro.

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