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31 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

well, then it's just funny you start talking about sf compared to others...

I don't think he brought up SF though, it was more an issue of portraying very different level PSUs as basically the same, and you made it a manufacturer issue.

31 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

ah, you're going to try and feel what hours of work feels like? not just complaining on whatever.

This kinda applies to me, as I'm totally willing to toss out some advice regarding the way the thing is organized but I'd never join this project wholesale.  I don't know your situation, but when I was 17 I had, hah, soooo much more time.  Frankly, most of the people who can really contribute to something like this have jobs, school or both.  With me as an example, after 40 hours of backbreaking hard labor and 25 hours of classes I don't even have time for my own hobby of case/cooler design, let alone helping someone else do pretty much anything.

 

TLDR;

Most of us with useful input and training are already putting in "hours of hard work" and literally don't have the time 

Want to custom loop?  Ask me more if you are curious

 

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Is the EVGA G1+ from the list actually G+?

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EVGA: Guys, our product stack is getting pretty confusing, what should we do about it?

 

Employee: I know!

 

EVGA:

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6 minutes ago, TVwazhere said:

EVGA

you know the most weird thing? the platform looks quite close to a be quiet power zone to me...

 

but yeah, that's just my rumors, if anyone got the real stuff, hit me

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6 minutes ago, TVwazhere said:

EVGA: Guys, our product stack is getting pretty confusing, what should we do about it?

 

Employee: I know!

 

EVGA:

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There's more coming as well... G5, G7, GA, GT, P3, and maybe a couple more I can't remember.

 

On 8/15/2019 at 1:10 AM, Spotty said:

Speaking of which, looks like that is going to get even more complicated.

 

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On 8/15/2019 at 3:26 AM, OrionFOTL said:

Can confirm GA is Andyson.

 

In addition to what Spotty said, there's also EVGA GT coming in powers of 550, 650 and 750W, made by HEC. The single 12V rails are respectively 549.6W, 648W and 750W.

 

There was also supposed to be 500/600/700 GQ made by Andyson, and 500/600W2 also made by Andyson, but it didn't go anywhere yet.

 

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1 hour ago, seon123 said:

But deep down we are all waiting for Seasonic to release the Core+ so EVGA can rebrand it as the BS

A PSU with such a name would be wonderful. Especially if it was low key great

We have a NEW and GLORIOUSER-ER-ER PSU Tier List Now. (dammit @LukeSavenije stop coming up with new ones)

You can check out the old one that gave joy to so many across the land here

 

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Twas doing some research and stumbled upon some peculiarities:

 

#1: Are TXM Golds worth being $40-$70 cheaper than things like Corsair RMx/RMi Gold, Seasonic Prime Ultra Titanium, and Be Quiet! Pure & Straight Power despite being ~10 decibels louder?

 

#2: Are Fractal Design Ion+ Platinums any good? Cuz AnandTech seems to say so: https://www.anandtech.com/show/14693/the-fractal-design-ion-760p-80plus-platinum-psu-review/3

 

#3: What are your views on the Bitfenix Whisper, CoolerMaster MWE Golds, and Seasonic Focus+ Golds?

 

#4: I gather that Corsair RMx/RMi Gold, Seasonic Prime Ultra Titanium, Fractal Design Ion+ Platinum, and Be Quiet! Pure & Straight Power are all decent & quiet power supplies with noise-levels at full-load under 40 decibels. Is there any particular one you would recommend over the others?

 

 

An organized list of my research today:

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850W PSU Picks:

750/760W PSU Picks:

650/660W PSU Picks:

600W PSU Picks:

550/560W PSU Picks:

500W PSU Picks:

Corsair RMi, RMx,& TMx Reviews:

Bitfenix Whisper Reviews:

Be Quiet! Straight & Pure Power Reviews:

Seasonic Focus+ Gold & Prime Ultra Reviews:

Cooler Master MWE Gold Review:

Fractal Design Ion+ Review:

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Thanks for the help! ^_^

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20 hours ago, Spotty said:

 

There's more coming as well... G5, G7, GA, GT, P3, and maybe a couple more I can't remember.

 

 

I can't really show it, but... there's also a sequel coming to the 25C-rated, 80Plus-none N1 series... ?

400N2 and 500N2.

 

Oh wait, they actually already are visible on EVGA's Taiwan website!

https://tw.evga.com/Products/Product.aspx?pn=100-N2-0400-K7

https://tw.evga.com/Products/Product.aspx?pn=100-N2-0500-K7

 

Just like the predecessors... 75% efficiency, NO PFC at all, and looks like it's not even double forward, but just half bridge.

Also illegal to sell in the EU. ??


 

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I'm not sure what the text says, but why would they mention +12V and put a pic of an input filter coil next to it? ?

 

Check this out, the transformer sticker is censored digitally!

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5 minutes ago, OrionFOTL said:

I'm not sure what the text says, but why would they mention +12V and put a pic of an input filter coil next to it? ?

You can use Google translate with your phone's camera to translate text in images in real time.

 

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Well, doesn't really help. Traditional translate says

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12V single-group loop output complies with the latest ATX12V standard, using 12V hit loop output

*Shrugs*

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EVGA lineup still less confusing than Cooler Master MWE lineup, where White V2 are actually 80+ Bronze, but Bronze V2 is already taken so they just call them White v2?
And original White weren't called White, they were just called MWE, and Bronze V1 was MWE Bronze, now MWE Bronze V2 modular is on it's way too, Cooler Master MWE lineup going to be bigger than most manufacturers got all together by 2-3 times :D

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On 8/29/2019 at 5:05 AM, TVwazhere said:

EVGA: Guys, our product stack is getting pretty confusing, what should we do about it?

 

Employee: I know!

 

EVGA:  G5

 

When you burn bridges with your vendors, you have to jump to other vendors to fill out your back orders.

 

In related news:  You're going to start seeing a lot more Superflower branded Superflower PSUs abroad.

 

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8 minutes ago, jonnyGURU said:

When you burn bridges with your vendors, you have to jump to other vendors to fill out your back orders.

 

In related news:  You're going to start seeing a lot more Superflower branded Superflower PSUs abroad.

 

Exciting! The SF part

We have a NEW and GLORIOUSER-ER-ER PSU Tier List Now. (dammit @LukeSavenije stop coming up with new ones)

You can check out the old one that gave joy to so many across the land here

 

Computer having a hard time powering on? Troubleshoot it with this guide. (Currently looking for suggestions to update it into the context of <current year> and make it its own thread)

Computer Specs:

Spoiler

Mathresolvermajig: Intel Xeon E3 1240 (Sandy Bridge i7 equivalent)

Chillinmachine: Noctua NH-C14S
Framepainting-inator: EVGA GTX 1080 Ti SC2 Hybrid

Attachcorethingy: Gigabyte H61M-S2V-B3

Infoholdstick: Corsair 2x4GB DDR3 1333

Computerarmor: Silverstone RL06 "Lookalike"

Rememberdoogle: 1TB HDD + 120GB TR150 + 240 SSD Plus + 1TB MX500

AdditionalPylons: Phanteks AMP! 550W (based on Seasonic GX-550)

Letterpad: Rosewill Apollo 9100 (Cherry MX Red)

Buttonrodent: Razer Viper Mini + Huion H430P drawing Tablet

Auralnterface: Sennheiser HD 6xx

Liquidrectangles: LG 27UK850-W 4K HDR

 

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8 minutes ago, jonnyGURU said:

When you burn bridges with your vendors, you have to jump to other vendors to fill out your back orders.

 

In related news:  You're going to start seeing a lot more Superflower branded Superflower PSUs abroad.

 

Is that a good or a bad thing?  Never heard of them just googled and seen they've had some awards...

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Just now, Tristerin said:

Is that a good or a bad thing?  Never heard of them just googled and seen they've had some awards...

They made EVGA's G2 and G3, among others.  The EVGA orders basically sucked up all of SF's capacity (their factory only has two lines and they outsource PCBA).  

 

Now that EVGA is using mostly Andyson and FSP, Superflower's resources are quite freed up.

 

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Which power supply would fit my choice? I usually just buy a random one from evga or corsair, but this time is for my home server. Currently running a 500W coolermaster unit which works fine, but it lacks sata power. The server is running 24/7, so i guess a high efficiency psu would be nice. Req is minimum 8x sata power. Price doesn't really mather that much, but i guess the cheaper the better :P.  Running unraid and mostly using it for plex, let's say i am a data hoarder.

 

Specs i7 4770k

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16GB memory

8X HDD, 8tbs mostly (only 6 running atm, because of 6x sata on psu)

 

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20 minutes ago, tennbrikket said:

Which power supply would fit my choice?

maybe something like this one from bitfenix?

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/B8RFf7/bitfenix-formula-gold-650w-80-gold-certified-atx-power-supply-bp-fm650ulag-7r

 

you can also buy something (semi) modular and add cables with the same pinout on it

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1 minute ago, LukeSavenije said:

maybe something like this one from bitfenix?

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/B8RFf7/bitfenix-formula-gold-650w-80-gold-certified-atx-power-supply-bp-fm650ulag-7r

 

you can also buy something (semi) modular and add cables with the same pinout on it

Well, that looked like a decent one. Unfortunately it doesn't look like it's being sold here in Norway :/  

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Just now, tennbrikket said:

Found an awsome deal on a Corsair RM Series™ RM650 80 PLUS Gold Fully Modular. 100$, think i will go with that one.

hm... what else is available at the price? RM isn't the best imo, it's good, but almost falls behind a txm

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19 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

hm... what else is available at the price? RM isn't the best imo, it's good, but almost falls behind a txm

EVGA 650 GQ

EVGA PSU 650W SuperNova GP

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Just now, tennbrikket said:

EVGA 650 GQ

EVGA PSU 650W SuperNova GP

oh, nevermind then

 

go ahead with that rm

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I am going to build a new gamin pc (starting with ryzen 3600 and rtx 2060 super for now [and then upgrading next year with new ryzen cpu and probably a ray traced amd graphics card)  and really looking forward towards a future proof psu. Until now, the most efficient modular option I see is the be quite dark pro 11 850 W power supply. However, I don't see much reviews of it (maybe it's German). Saw Linus review of the 10 series, hoping the 11 series atleast better. Does anyone has experiences with that PSU? .. Thanks :)

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