[OLD] PSU Tier List 3.0 (Legacy)

[LukeSavenije]

1 minute ago, fasauceome said:

Bio updated, finally

good...

 

btw, i got a couple more lists for you... pm or discord me

 

i won't do that here

[Rexper]

This list is still filled with flaws.

 

Which makes me believe this list isn't based on fact, just assumptions and subjectivity.

 

I'm still waiting on the required criteria for each tier.

What factors you take into account, what you don't.

[Tech_Dreamer]

Ayyy.. Pinned.

[LienusLateTips]

23 minutes ago, Rexper said:

This list is still filled with flaws.

 

Which makes me believe this list isn't based on fact, just assumptions and subjectivity.

 

I'm still waiting on the required criteria for each tier.

What factors you take into account, what you don't.

Please proceed to the notes section, under "Tier lists are too flawed to be useful".

[Rexper]

2 minutes ago, LienusLateTips said:

Please proceed to the notes section, under "Tier lists are too flawed to be useful".

That still doesn't tell us what factors are examined before tiering.

 

Noise? Primary topology? Efficiency? Cabling?

Not only is this necessary for validity, it also lets people know what further research they should take before buying.

[hello_there_123]

Imo G3 should be bumped up a tier because its protections being set too high *likely* won't matter under the average load.

[LogicWeasel]

Does the A ranking for the Corsair units:  "TXM 2017" include the prior to 2017 "Enthusiast TX750 v2" model (from around 2011-2012)?. 

 

As seen here:  https://www.corsair.com/us/en/Categories/Products/Power-Supply-Units/Enthusiast-Series™-TX750-V2-—-80-PLUS®-Bronze-Certified-750-Watt-High-Performance-Power-Supply/p/CMPSU-750TXV2

[LienusLateTips]

1 hour ago, LogicWeasel said:

Does the A ranking for the Corsair units:  "TXM 2017" include the prior to 2017 "Enthusiast TX750 v2" model (from around 2011-2012)?. 

 

As seen here:  https://www.corsair.com/us/en/Categories/Products/Power-Supply-Units/Enthusiast-Series™-TX750-V2-—-80-PLUS®-Bronze-Certified-750-Watt-High-Performance-Power-Supply/p/CMPSU-750TXV2

No - those are TXs, not TXMs, too. 

 

The TX750 2011 would be listed under the legacy list, most likely.

[LogicWeasel]

57 minutes ago, LienusLateTips said:

No - those are TXs, not TXMs, too. 

 

The TX750 2011 would be listed under the legacy list, most likely.

They are not listed under the old tier list either, I'm curious if they would be recognized as the same quality.

 

[LienusLateTips]

30 minutes ago, LogicWeasel said:

They are not listed under the old tier list either, I'm curious if they would be recognized as the same quality.

 

From what I can find, the TXv2 looks like a SeaSonic AT based unit, the same as the higher wattage M12II.

 

@jonnyGURU would be able to confirm this for you.

[Spotty]

37 minutes ago, LogicWeasel said:

They are not listed under the old tier list either, I'm curious if they would be recognized as the same quality.

No. You won't find it on the Tier List as it doesn't consider discontinued units, especially not units from 8 years ago. It's mainly just for comparing units that are currently available on the market.
 

6 minutes ago, LienusLateTips said:

From what I can find, the TXv2 looks like a SeaSonic AT based unit

It is. Seasonic AT platform. DC-DC, Double Forward Topology. DBB fan, 50C temp rating. It would have been a pretty good unit for its time. If it were being ranked, not that I know what the criteria for ranking is, I would probably put it in the Tier B category alongside the modern CX/CXm units.

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Corsair/TX750_V2/
It's also listed in JGs PSU list: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qaSSCWjC11ArO8WyBb_wTvFU_Ez9488F6ARkbag1e14/edit#gid=0

[LienusLateTips]

1 hour ago, Spotty said:

No. You won't find it on the Tier List as it doesn't consider discontinued units, especially not units from 8 years ago. It's mainly just for comparing units that are currently available on the market.
 

It is. Seasonic AT platform. DC-DC, Double Forward Topology. DBB fan, 50C temp rating. It would have been a pretty good unit for its time. If it were being ranked, not that I know what the criteria for ranking is, I would probably put it in the Tier B category alongside the modern CX/CXm units.

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Corsair/TX750_V2/
It's also listed in JGs PSU list: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qaSSCWjC11ArO8WyBb_wTvFU_Ez9488F6ARkbag1e14/edit#gid=0

Whoops, didn't see it in there lol

 

Yeah I'll be sure to update this list with all the info from that

 

BTW, I'll be making a legacy list, over the next week.

[Spotty]

15 minutes ago, LienusLateTips said:

BTW, I'll be making a legacy list, over the next week.

Please stop with all the tier lists. It's getting a bit excessive.

[LienusLateTips]

1 hour ago, Spotty said:

Please stop with all the tier lists. It's getting a bit excessive.

It's not a new one. It's just a tier list of all the old units...

[dgsddfgdfhgs]

Little suggestions:

can you also add the special features like 0db fan / sfx / modular/ rgb etc.

this could help new comer filter alot

[LukeSavenije]

4 minutes ago, dgsddfgdfhgs said:

0db fan

you mean semi-fanless?

 

4 minutes ago, dgsddfgdfhgs said:

sfx

that one might make sense... i'll pass it to lienus

 

4 minutes ago, dgsddfgdfhgs said:

modular

why?

 

4 minutes ago, dgsddfgdfhgs said:

rgb

afaik only thermaltake makes those

[dgsddfgdfhgs]

1 minute ago, LukeSavenije said:

you mean semi-fanless?

yes .when fan only spins under load.

 

those where just example i can think of which people may have interest in.

that said, got to mention the psu with monitor (asus I think~)

[LukeSavenije]

1 minute ago, dgsddfgdfhgs said:

yes .when fan only spins under load.

 

those where just example i can think of which people may have interest in.

that said, got to mention the psu with monitor (asus I think~)

I'm not sure if some of them will agree on it, but i'll leave it at their desk anyway...

 

asus thor is that overpriced seasonic prime, correct

[Stefan Payne]

24 minutes ago, dgsddfgdfhgs said:

yes .when fan only spins under load.

No, that's bullshit.

You want a quiet solution, the Semi Fanless thing is overhyped Marketing Nonsense that can reduce the lifetime of the PSU because of the heat generated.

If you have a really bad Semi Fanless solution - like the Enermax Revolution SFX or my Chieftec SFX, what's the benefit?

In the end its only a thing big companies like Corsair can realls stem - or smaller ones with the help of big companies. 

 

 

Modular makes sense, but then again, its Standard in higher end, not so much at the lower end and its pretty obvious.

 

24 minutes ago, dgsddfgdfhgs said:

that said, got to mention the psu with monitor (asus I think~)

Wich is like what, 4 Models?
Corsair xxi, the ASUS and some NZXT??

[LukeSavenije]

3 minutes ago, PacketMan said:

With all these PSU Tier lists I'm starting to feel bad about my Aerocool KCAS 800W bought like 4 years ago lol not even mentioned once IIRC

afaik andyson isn't that much in the list... so i can't say much about it...

[Spotty]

27 minutes ago, PacketMan said:

With all these PSU Tier lists I'm starting to feel bad about my Aerocool KCAS 800W bought like 4 years ago lol not even mentioned once IIRC

Closest think to a review I could find is for the KCAS 700W in Russian (use google translate) http://article.techlabs.by/36_35024.html Even then it doesn't really tell you much. Though if someone recognises which Andyson platform it is they might be able to identify it and know a bit more about it.

Spoiler

 

I would say Tier C at the highest though, considering group regulated units are Tier C and lower.

[Quadriplegic]

1 hour ago, Spotty said:

Closest think to a review I could find is for the KCAS 700W in Russian (use google translate) http://article.techlabs.by/36_35024.html Even then it doesn't really tell you much. Though if someone recognises which Andyson platform it is they might be able to identify it and know a bit more about it.

 

I would say Tier C at the highest though, considering group regulated units are Tier C and lower.

Hopefuly it's better than lower wattage versions, which are somewhat known as prone to blowing up
 

 

[Stefan Payne]

3 hours ago, Spotty said:

I would say Tier C at the highest though, considering group regulated units are Tier C and lower.

Group Regulation with shitty Protection, so worse than that...

 

Its similar to Xilence Performance C and the likes (Seasonic S12II ;))

[LienusLateTips]

11 hours ago, dgsddfgdfhgs said:

Little suggestions:

can you also add the special features like 0db fan / sfx / modular/ rgb etc.

this could help new comer filter alot

0db fan is a marketing scheme, SFX is very obvious, but I'll make it more obvious. Modular is ubquitous at the high end and not at the low end.... not really a point. RGB is on like what? Three PSUs, all with RGB in the name?

[LukeSavenije]

21 minutes ago, LienusLateTips said:

0db fan is a marketing scheme, SFX is very obvious, but I'll make it more obvious. Modular is ubquitous at the high end and not at the low end.... not really a point. RGB is on like what? Three PSUs, all with RGB in the name?

all thermaltake afaik, but iirc 4 or 5