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The PSU Tier List can now be found here: https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/1116640-psu-tier-list-40-rev-101/

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6 hours ago, Uptivuptiz said:

Ok. I was just wondering since I have one of them :P 

Same as current TX-M except TX-M caps are Jap brand, hold up time is increased from 12ms to 16ms and full load temperature rating of 50°C instead of 40°.

 

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where should the Cooler Master MWE bronze 550w belong to? the <=500w belong to type C, and 600w=> to type B.

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So... How bad is the PSU that comes with the Fractal Node 202? It's called "Integra SFX 450w". Who makes it, how noisy is it, how dangerous is it to use? R5 1600, GTX1070/1060/RX580, at most mild overclocks, possibly even underclocks to achieve better thermals. On a good quality 450w I would not be afraid at all.

 

http://www.fractal-design.com/home/product/cases/node-series/node-202-integra-sfx-450w-psu
 

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5 hours ago, Kenxus said:

where should the Cooler Master MWE bronze 550w belong to? the <=500w belong to type C, and 600w=> to type B.

i recall it being tier c as a group reg, but don't quote me on it

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19 minutes ago, chckovsky said:

So... How bad is the PSU that comes with the Fractal Node 202?

seems to be a group regulated, bronze rated unit made by FSP, I'd recommend to look further

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What PSU should I use in my next PC? I'm thinking of buying a Corsair RM650x or maybe a Bitfenix Formula Gold 650W (I know, 650W is overkill but I'd like to have some headroom for upgrades).

 

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2 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

seems to be a group regulated, bronze rated unit made by FSP, I'd recommend to look further

I got it at the same price as the non-psu model. I already have it, and I would like to not have to use another 100$ for a high-quality SFX PSU. I guess my question is, will my stuff blow up?

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1 minute ago, chckovsky said:

I got it at the same price as the non-psu model. I already have it, and I would like to not have to use another 100$ for a high-quality SFX PSU. I guess my question is, will my stuff blow up?

probably not

 

but it's not a configuration I'd recommend, group regulation really is something that should be left in the past

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2 minutes ago, XR6 said:

What PSU should I use in my next PC?

if you don't care about modularity I'd say the formula, because it has multiple rails. not that it's a problem to not have on lower wattages, but it's good to have if you can

 

tho others like the whisper, straight power 11 and some others are great options too

 

 

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7 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

probably not

 

but it's not a configuration I'd recommend, group regulation really is something that should be left in the past

So you'd recommend trying to sell it to get some money for something like an SF450/SF600? What other respectable SFF PSUs of around 500w exist now?

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4 minutes ago, chckovsky said:

So you'd recommend trying to sell it to get some money for something like an SF450/SF600? What other respectable SFF PSUs of around 500w exist now?

dagger sfx, focus sfx (doesn't have focus related problems from what I've seen), and the sfx l seems decent too

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53 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

if you don't care about modularity I'd say the formula, because it has multiple rails. not that it's a problem to not have on lower wattages, but it's good to have if you can

 

tho others like the whisper, straight power 11 and some others are great options too

 

 

Are there any cheaper alternatives? The Formula, Whisper and Straight Power 11 are all quite expensive where I live.

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55 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

if you don't care about modularity I'd say the formula, because it has multiple rails. not that it's a problem to not have on lower wattages, but it's good to have if you can

Is a single strong rail generally considered better for less points of failure, or has that notion changed over the years?

Sometimes I get builder's itch

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19 minutes ago, Biggerboot said:

Is a single strong rail generally considered better for less points of failure, or has that notion changed over the years?

For less than about 650w, single rail is fine. 750w and above, multi-rail is ideal. It's about protecting your system and isolating the problem/failure more effectively. 

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24 minutes ago, Biggerboot said:

Is a single strong rail generally considered better for less points of failure, or has that notion changed over the years?

single rail problems aren't really a thing anymore with a good implemented one

 

it has happened in the past that it was worse tho, but not that much these days

29 minutes ago, XR6 said:

Are there any cheaper alternatives? The Formula, Whisper and Straight Power 11 are all quite expensive where I live.

pure power 11, txm, rm 2019, v-series, mwe gold and g2 maybe?

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18 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

single rail problems aren't really a thing anymore with a good implemented one

Yeah I use to just look at the amps per rail when it came to PSUs but I think the industry and standards for psus are a lot higher now are there are a lot more variables to a PSU where I'm not really considering the rail design in a purchase.

Sometimes I get builder's itch

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On 6/17/2019 at 4:12 AM, thinwalrus said:

Yes, its much worse on other aspects too. Those Elite branded caps just mean it wont last that long in use.

 

Its also horribly overpriced if its the same price as Focus Plus.

Price depends on region, 550w MWE gold is 70 euros where I live and 550w Focus+ Gold is 105 euros, that's 50% more

friend swapped out G3 750 with MWE 550 Gold(full modular) and he is super happy, it's silent even when stressing OC'd Ryzen 7

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2 hours ago, LukeSavenije said:

focus sfx (doesn't have focus related problems from what I've seen)ž

it's called Focus SGX, with G instead of F... Seasonic naming...
I like the idea of 120mm fan in SFX PSU tho, but Seasonic is not rly known for quiet fans used so it might not be the case

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33 minutes ago, komi1997 said:

it's called Focus SGX, with G instead of F... Seasonic naming...
I like the idea of 120mm fan in SFX PSU tho, but Seasonic is not rly known for quiet fans used so it might not be the case

seasonic doesn't use own fans, they use hong hua and some others to do it

 

but from what i've heard from a German reviewer that has one, it's better than the focus in some ways

59 minutes ago, Biggerboot said:

Yeah I use to just look at the amps per rail when it came to PSUs but I think the industry and standards for psus are a lot higher now are there are a lot more variables to a PSU where I'm not really considering the rail design in a purchase.

except single rail above 700 watts i'd say

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3 hours ago, chckovsky said:

So... How bad is the PSU that comes with the Fractal Node 202? It's called "Integra SFX 450w". Who makes it, how noisy is it, how dangerous is it to use? R5 1600, GTX1070/1060/RX580, at most mild overclocks, possibly even underclocks to achieve better thermals. On a good quality 450w I would not be afraid at all.

 

http://www.fractal-design.com/home/product/cases/node-series/node-202-integra-sfx-450w-psu
 

IIRC it's not that good - not worth the price

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4 hours ago, LukeSavenije said:

except single rail above 700 watts i'd say

This doesn't necessarily apply to me (I don't need the watts), but what would be the bottom line multi rail psu you would recommend in the 750+ watt range?  For future reference. :) 

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9 hours ago, Biggerboot said:

This doesn't necessarily apply to me (I don't need the watts), but what would be the bottom line multi rail psu you would recommend in the 750+ watt range?  For future reference. :) 

the ones i mentioned to xr6 in the first reply are really good low-cost high end units

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8 hours ago, LukeSavenije said:

the ones i mentioned to xr6 in the first reply are really good low-cost high end units

And hypothetically, is it basically a case of if you do have a high wattage single rail psu (like say the Corsair RMx), you don't want to load it beyond 650? Or would you just completely avoid the high watt platform/are the higher watt models designed different?

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1 minute ago, Biggerboot said:

And hypothetically, is it basically a case of if you do have a high wattage single rail psu (like say the Corsair RMx), you don't want to load it beyond 650? 

nothing to do with it

 

a single rail is just fine when it works

 

but when it doesn't, one or two protections miss it and you have the full amps through the one malfunctoining device in your system

 

that's why we generally say above 650 a multirail

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4 minutes ago, Biggerboot said:

And hypothetically, is it basically a case of if you do have a high wattage single rail psu (like say the Corsair RMx), you don't want to load it beyond 650? Or would you just completely avoid the high watt platform/are the higher watt models designed different?

It's not about the load, it's about the PSU's wattage. Given that you have the option of picking a high end high wattage single rail PSU Vs an equivalent multi rail PSU, choose the multi rail one. And if you need a high wattage PSU, you can afford a high end one. 

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