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Hey, I recently acquired a used GTX 1080. The graphics card is an MSI model, the MSI GTX 1080 Gaming X Plus, to be more specific, and while testing it (benchmarking, gaming, etc), I noticed the clock speeds wouldn't go any higher than 1974 MHz on the Core Clock and 5557 MHz Memory Clock speed. This is with the OC mode activated, which specs can be seen if you click on the graphics card model, and no manual tweaks apart from increasing the power limit to 113% and the core voltage to 100%. I tried overclocking it a but, however, I really couldn't get past 2000 MHz without crashing. I feel like this isn't a lot since it's less than 26 MHz (roughly) more than it reaches on its own and some cards can even reach 2140 MHz and more (with overclock). I included a screenshot below of the graphs from MSI Afterburner, which include Core Clock, Memory Clock, etc. Keep in mind the temperatures were as high as 70C as I had the heating turned up quite high, but still, there should be some overclocking headroom, temperature-wise, at least. Did I just get really unlucky on the silicon lottery? Also, note that even though the Power Limit was set to 113%, the card actually only reached 99%. Could this be limiting the overclocking potential?

 

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2 minutes ago, bruny06 said:

Also, note that even though the Power Limit was set to 113%, the card actually only reached 99%

Maybe it is 99% of the 113% or your CPU or PSU limiting the GPUs performance.


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Just now, Finwillwin said:

Maybe it is 99% of the 113% or your CPU or PSU limiting the GPUs performance.

It's a good quality 750W PSU, so, don't think so. Regarding the CPU, I tested the graphics card on 3DMark, which on the graphics test, barely uses any CPU, and in that test, it still only hit 1974 MHz on its own. Any overclock I threw at it just ended up in it crashing.


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13 minutes ago, bruny06 said:

Hey, I recently acquired a used GTX 1080. The graphics card is an MSI model, the MSI GTX 1080 Gaming X Plus, to be more specific, and while testing it (benchmarking, gaming, etc), I noticed the clock speeds wouldn't go any higher than 1974 MHz on the Core Clock and 5557 MHz Memory Clock speed. This is with the OC mode activated, which specs can be seen if you click on the graphics card model, and no manual tweaks apart from increasing the power limit to 113% and the core voltage to 100%. I tried overclocking it a but, however, I really couldn't get past 2000 MHz without crashing. I feel like this isn't a lot since it's less than 26 MHz (roughly) more than it reaches on its own and some cards can even reach 2140 MHz and more (with overclock). I included a screenshot below of the graphs from MSI Afterburner, which include Core Clock, Memory Clock, etc. Keep in mind the temperatures were as high as 70C as I had the heating turned up quite high, but still, there should be some overclocking headroom, temperature-wise, at least. Did I just get really unlucky on the silicon lottery? Also, note that even though the Power Limit was set to 113%, the card actually only reached 99%. Could this be limiting the overclocking potential?

 

Many thanks, 

Bruno

 

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Second hand? I would always recommend a VBIOS reflash, as the 1080 and 1080Ti were some of the most profitable mining cards. Most VBIOS's under clock the card for longevity, and also do not have much stability for overclocking.


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8 hours ago, SenpaiKaplan said:

Second hand? I would always recommend a VBIOS reflash, as the 1080 and 1080Ti were some of the most profitable mining cards. Most VBIOS's under clock the card for longevity, and also do not have much stability for overclocking.

I’m at work and could only do a very quick research. Would I be using a program called NVflash? Is this a somewhat straightforward process or requires a lot of research? Also, where can I get the original BIOS for my graphics card?


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Running to hot and msi isn’t the best for anything so it’s what I’d expect. 

Also silicone varies significantly. 


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How do you even mod a vBIOS for Pascal class GPU ?
Check in GPU-z or RTSS (Riva Tuner Statistic Server), what's limiting your card (under Perf. Cap. reason section).
If card pushes too much vGPU on 2GHz clock, you will hit Power limit which will throttle your card (regardless of temps).


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This is with the OC mode activated

 

Is the card itself a factory overclocked edition? Could your baseline represent already higher than market averaged versions of the similar card? If that's the case, your marginal increase via overclock could potentially still be high, since it's added onto a higher baseline. (?)

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13 hours ago, bruny06 said:

Hey, I recently acquired a used GTX 1080. The graphics card is an MSI model, the MSI GTX 1080 Gaming X Plus, to be more specific, and while testing it (benchmarking, gaming, etc), I noticed the clock speeds wouldn't go any higher than 1974 MHz on the Core Clock and 5557 MHz Memory Clock speed. This is with the OC mode activated, which specs can be seen if you click on the graphics card model, and no manual tweaks apart from increasing the power limit to 113% and the core voltage to 100%. I tried overclocking it a but, however, I really couldn't get past 2000 MHz without crashing. I feel like this isn't a lot since it's less than 26 MHz (roughly) more than it reaches on its own and some cards can even reach 2140 MHz and more (with overclock). I included a screenshot below of the graphs from MSI Afterburner, which include Core Clock, Memory Clock, etc. Keep in mind the temperatures were as high as 70C as I had the heating turned up quite high, but still, there should be some overclocking headroom, temperature-wise, at least. Did I just get really unlucky on the silicon lottery? Also, note that even though the Power Limit was set to 113%, the card actually only reached 99%. Could this be limiting the overclocking potential?

 

Many thanks, 

Bruno

 

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I wouldn't expect too much out of a used card, and it's MSI also.

 

You can't buy just any 1080 and expect miracles.

 

The real OCers were the ASUS Strix and EVGA FTW2 some of those were real monsters, especially the early FTW2's with the 11GBS memory out of the box. I have an early FTW2 1080 and it's monster OCer, 2130+ Core and 6000+ memory.


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13 hours ago, bruny06 said:

Hey, I recently acquired a used GTX 1080. The graphics card is an MSI model, the MSI GTX 1080 Gaming X Plus, to be more specific, and while testing it (benchmarking, gaming, etc), I noticed the clock speeds wouldn't go any higher than 1974 MHz on the Core Clock and 5557 MHz Memory Clock speed. This is with the OC mode activated, which specs can be seen if you click on the graphics card model, and no manual tweaks apart from increasing the power limit to 113% and the core voltage to 100%. I tried overclocking it a but, however, I really couldn't get past 2000 MHz without crashing. I feel like this isn't a lot since it's less than 26 MHz (roughly) more than it reaches on its own and some cards can even reach 2140 MHz and more (with overclock). I included a screenshot below of the graphs from MSI Afterburner, which include Core Clock, Memory Clock, etc. Keep in mind the temperatures were as high as 70C as I had the heating turned up quite high, but still, there should be some overclocking headroom, temperature-wise, at least. Did I just get really unlucky on the silicon lottery? Also, note that even though the Power Limit was set to 113%, the card actually only reached 99%. Could this be limiting the overclocking potential?

 

Many thanks, 

Bruno

 

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it really depends on thw workload,

on some games my 1070 sustains 2113mhz and on others it just bounces around 2000mhz

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Prolly just quality and temp. Mined on a dell fe card for a few years, still hits 2176. Best 1080 I’ve owned, way better than my strix or super clocks. 


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11 hours ago, bruny06 said:

I’m at work and could only do a very quick research. Would I be using a program called NVflash? Is this a somewhat straightforward process or requires a lot of research? Also, where can I get the original BIOS for my graphics card?

Yes, NVFlash. And the BIOS would be on the manufacturers page for the card.


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3 hours ago, SenpaiKaplan said:

Yes, NVFlash. And the BIOS would be on the manufacturers page for the card.

I flashed to a newer build and it managed to hit 1987MHz without manual OC. The BIOS was not on MSI's website, but I managed to get it from TechPowerUp.com. I'll see if I can overclock a bit further, however, I highly doubt the card had a custom BIOS for mining.


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15 hours ago, Mick Naughty said:

Running to hot and msi isn’t the best for anything so it’s what I’d expect. 

Also silicone varies significantly. 

Too hot? The card hit a maximum of 70C at 1974MHz, with the stock fan curve. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think that's hot.


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12 hours ago, trevb0t said:

 

Is the card itself a factory overclocked edition? Could your baseline represent already higher than market averaged versions of the similar card? If that's the case, your marginal increase via overclock could potentially still be high, since it's added onto a higher baseline. (?)

Well, true, it is overclocked out of the box. It's just that barely being able to hit 2000MHz really isn't that great, so I was trying to find out whether or not I got really unlucky.


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11 hours ago, Ankerson said:

 

 

I wouldn't expect too much out of a used card, and it's MSI also.

 

You can't buy just any 1080 and expect miracles.

 

The real OCers were the ASUS Strix and EVGA FTW2 some of those were real monsters, especially the early FTW2's with the 11GBS memory out of the box. I have an early FTW2 1080 and it's monster OCer, 2130+ Core and 6000+ memory.

I can actually hit 6000MHz on the memory with stability, however, I can't really add much core clock at all. 


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31 minutes ago, bruny06 said:

I flashed to a newer build and it managed to hit 1987MHz without manual OC. The BIOS was not on MSI's website, but I managed to get it from TechPowerUp.com. I'll see if I can overclock a bit further, however, I highly doubt the card had a custom BIOS for mining.

Well, it was worth trying then! Try maxing out your fan speed, power limit, and core voltage. See what it does.


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2 hours ago, bruny06 said:

Too hot? The card hit a maximum of 70C at 1974MHz, with the stock fan curve. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think that's hot.

Look at the clock states for the temps. That is hot. That's very hot. All great for normal card operation but not for people expecting great clocks all the time. Load depending, I can lose 12hz for ever 3c increase in temp..


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10 hours ago, SenpaiKaplan said:

Well, it was worth trying then! Try maxing out your fan speed, power limit, and core voltage. See what it does.

For some reason, I can't seem to be able to change the fan speed. When I do so, the changes don't take place and the slider goes back to whatever speed the fan is running on Afterburner. I had the same issue with the previous BIOS.


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4 hours ago, bruny06 said:

For some reason, I can't seem to be able to change the fan speed. When I do so, the changes don't take place and the slider goes back to whatever speed the fan is running on Afterburner. I had the same issue with the previous BIOS.

Did you enable user defined fan profiles?


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19 hours ago, SenpaiKaplan said:

Did you enable user defined fan profiles?

Yes, I did. No matter what I do, I can't set a custom fan speed.


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