PewDiePie Isn't to Blame for the New Zealand Mosque Shooting in Christchurch

[Fasauceome]

5 minutes ago, LinusOnLine said:

I think he is. A Swede do not express them self like he does unless he is a racist.

Well I'm glad you have such proper standards for a Swede. Still, I bet you really don't know a thing about the so called scandals and only read articles about them, which lack context. If you look into his latest scandals like the twitch thot fiasco and the so called anti Indian sentiment, you'll see that his genuine fans aren't alienated by this, his female fans aren't assuming he's misogynistic for using the word thot and his Indian fans aren't assuming he's racist for writing bitch lasagna. His Jewish fans (heyo) certainly didn't get upset from the fiver 'death to all jews' stunt

[Drak3]

5 minutes ago, LinusOnLine said:

I think he is. A Swede do not express them self like he does unless he is a racist.

That's a wild and probably inaccurate generalization.

[imreloadin]

8 minutes ago, LinusOnLine said:

I think he is. A Swede do not express them self like he does unless he is a racist.

Man, Sweden sure is lucky to have you to speak on behalf of their entire population like that

[PCGuy_5960]

Honestly, anyone with even a little bit of common sense can realize that PewDiePie or anyone else for that matter (other than the shooter himself) are irrelevant. Hell, I've even seen some people on twitter blame Ben Shapiro for this. Like, bruh.

[LinusOnLine]

Just now, PCGuy_5960 said:

Honestly, anyone with even a little bit of common sense can realize that PewDiePie or anyone else for that matter (other than the shooter himself) are irrelevant. Hell, I've even seen some people on twitter blame Ben Shapiro for this. Like, bruh.

That I totally agree with. Although I can see how Breivik might have been an influenser.

[Drak3]

30 minutes ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

Honestly, anyone with even a little bit of common sense can realize that PewDiePie or anyone else for that matter (other than the shooter himself) are irrelevant. Hell, I've even seen some people on twitter blame Ben Shapiro for this. Like, bruh.

Yeah but Shapiro is constantly poking hiles and pointing out glaring flaws in policy and political movements, so smearing him is to be expected.

[aezakmi]

4 hours ago, Guanzo said:

 

I have no idea who that guy is but he's an asshole of epic proportions

[Chett_Manly]

6 minutes ago, aezakmi said:

I have no idea who that guy is but he's an asshole of epic proportions

The manifesto explicitly states this was an attempt to create more conflict, to create more censorship, to push people to extremes. This is why he used the gun he did, he used facebook live, he shouted out Pewds...

 

The whole thing was intentional, and yet media like Andrew Todd are either ridiculously stupid, or knowingly giving the terrorist exactly what he wanted.

[niofalpha]

I swear I've seen more people get offended by PewDiePie being "blamed" than people actually "blaming" him.

 

I don't understand why all the G4M3R bros ignore the horrible travesty that takes place, to go and defend poor poor the $20 Million Dollar reaction channel.

[Chett_Manly]

16 minutes ago, niofalpha said:

I swear I've seen more people get offended by PewDiePie being "blamed" than people actually "blaming" him.

 

I don't understand why all the G4M3R bros ignore the horrible travesty that takes place, to go and defend poor poor the $20 Million Dollar reaction channel.

Of course there are more people offended by him being blamed, then blaming him. The people blaming him are the privileged minority of blue check media types, who get their message amplified! 

 

And you are right now doing the terrorist's bidding, as you spread this G4M3R bro bullshit, giving him exactly what he wanted, as his manifesto showed.

 

 

Great thread on this:

 

[niofalpha]

2 hours ago, Chett_Manly said:

Of course there are more people offended by him being blamed, then blaming him. The people blaming him are the privileged minority of blue check media types, who get their message amplified! 

 

And you are right now doing the terrorist's bidding, as you spread this G4M3R bro bullshit, giving him exactly what he wanted, as his manifesto showed.

 

 

Great thread on this:

 

"When you shit your pants it's important that you don't discuss the smell of shit. It's what the shit wants." 

[Mister Woof]

I dont even know who PewDiePie is, but I'm 99% certain the person to blame for all this is the guy who pulled the trigger.

[Andreas Lilja]

Gunman liked peanut butter.

 

Peanut butter has blood on its hands.

[danieltien]

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/15/technology/pewdiepie-new-zealand-shooting.html

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One of YouTube’s biggest celebrities found himself entangled early Friday in news coverage of the mass shooting at two mosques in New Zealand.

A gunman who had broadcast part of the attack that left at least 49 people dead urged those watching to “subscribe to PewDiePie,” referring to the alias used by Felix Kjellberg, a Swede whose channel has long dominated YouTube and courted controversy along the way.  

 

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In an article last year, Paul MacInnes, who writes on sports and popular culture for The Guardian, faulted mainstream publications for largely ignoring Mr. Kjellberg.

“To call him an alt-right agitator would perhaps be unfair as he has never publicly identified with the proto-fascist movement,” Mr. MacInnes wrote. “But he shares much of their culture and amplifies it across the world. People should pay PewDiePie more attention.”

 

It's unfair to PewDiePie that his name got dragged into this tragedy, but at the same time one has to wonder why he was mentioned in the first place. I'm wondering to what extent Internet personalities are responsible for cultivating a following among certain segments and cross-sections of audiences based on their behavior--and what the follow-on effect is in a medium where the controllers (YouTube, Facebook, Twitter) seem to have no desire to truly take responsibility for the platforms they create.

 

[Spotty]

Please, can we not.

[Syntaxvgm]

2 minutes ago, Spotty said:

Please, can we not.

Why, what could go wrong? 

[mynameisjuan]

Please do not bring this up here. I am already pissed off that they are putting this on him. His reddit was already shutdown and people are writing full threads on how he feed and organized this which is utter bullshit.

 

I love Felix and this is the first news that is physically making me angry. Also this is more political than tech news. 

[DrMacintosh]

Pewds is not tech news worthy just because he's on YouTube. I've never believed the media when it comes to reporting on new media. They have an interest in de-platforming anyone who isn't one of them.  

[captain_to_fire]

Not tech news

[S w a t s o n]

 

dont @ me

"tech news"

[Deus Voltage]

It's not tech news, true, but I'm gonna have to pretty much disagree with most people here. His constant "it's just a joke" kind of attitude and "edginess" played a part. How small or large that part is remains very contentious. 

[Guest]

I don’t find this topic or this asshole’s tweets to be very appropriate at this time. 

[imreloadin]

2 minutes ago, Deus Voltage said:

It's not tech news, true, but I'm gonna have to pretty much disagree with most people here. His constant "it's just a joke" kind of attitude and "edginess" played a part. How small or large that part is remains very contentious. 

How much of a role does traditional media play then by constantly putting the spotlight on these wackjobs?

The dude livestreamed it because he wanted it to be seen and shared, which means he wants to be in the spotlight and have his "deeds" espoused to the world and like always the media is more than willing to oblige...

[mynameisjuan]

6 minutes ago, Deus Voltage said:

It's not tech news, true, but I'm gonna have to pretty much disagree with most people here. His constant "it's just a joke" kind of attitude and "edginess" played a part. How small or large that part is remains very contentious. 

I still cant understand how you would think his videos come off to some as "mass murder people". Its not his fault some of his fans are fucking psycho especially that large of  fanbase. 

[Deus Voltage]

10 minutes ago, imreloadin said:

How much of a role does traditional media play then by constantly putting the spotlight on these wackjobs?

The dude livestreamed it because he wanted it to be seen and shared, which means he wants to be in the spotlight and have his "deeds" espoused to the world and like always the media is more than willing to oblige...

Oh I agree. Mainstream media outlets definitely had a field day with this. Just look up New Zealand on youtube and you'll be bombarded with BBC/CBS/Fox News....

 

So in a sense, his tactic worked. Then again, you'd have to ask yourself, would he still have been on the news even if he didn't want the spotlight?

 

I think what makes this particular event so heartbreaking is the fact that it was live streamed in such surreal first person sort of way. 

 

mynameisjuan:

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I still cant understand how you would think his videos come off to some as "mass murder people". Its not his fault some of his fans are fucking psycho especially that large of  fanbase.

 

It's more about general awareness in my personal view. You're the biggest youtuber, and that comes with a hefty responsibility I think. At the end of the day though, I'm confident that he'll grow more mature from this and distance himself from the psychos even further.