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Posted · Original PosterOP

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Movies have been in 24 fps for a long time. even if the resolutions went up to 4k already, Paramount wants to make a change to that. They're going to request various cinema's if they can run 4k 120 fps movies.

 

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Gemini Man is recorded in 4k, 120fps and 3d, but according to the letter the film is distributed with, there will be a 2D version with 120fps and a 3D version with 60fps. Paramount asks the cinema's who have received the letter to send feedback about their experiences next week.
 
The new Ang Lee movie will be released in October. Here plays actor Will Smith a contract killer who has to deal with a younger clone of him. it's not the first film in which an increased frame rate has been applied. Billy Lynn's Long Halftime Walk, also by Lee, was the first film to use 120 frames per second. At a time, this was experienced as very positive during a short preview, but there were no cinemas capable of projecting the film in 4k and with 3d and 120 fps. Peter Jackson previously released The Hobbit, which was shot in 48fps.

 

We finally get high refresh rate in movies... where is this going to?


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1 minute ago, mr moose said:

I'm not paying for anything over 80FPS.  It is snake oil after that for movies.

i mean, it sounds cool

 

yet a bit... weird


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People got sick from seeing one of the Hobbit movies in 60fps or something.....do they even make 120Hz motion picture projectors? 


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Youtube 30 vs 60 is a very noticeable difference, I feel like the same would be true for 24 vs 120. I'm not paying more for it though unless they busted the 24 hz version by forgetting to put the 24 hz motion blur back in.


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2 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

People got sick from seeing one of the Hobbit movies in 60fps or something.....do they even make 120Hz motion picture projectors? 

hobbit was actually 48 fps...


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1 minute ago, BobVonBob said:

Youtube 30 vs 60 is a very noticeable difference, I feel like the same would be true for 24 vs 120. I'm not paying more for it though unless they busted the 24 hz version by forgetting to put the 24 hz motion blur back in.

it seems like it would just cost as much... just that it is recorded differently. and the hardware in the cinema needs to be keepable


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3 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

i mean, it sounds cool

 

yet a bit... weird

Remember all those arguments over FPS on the forums?  Basically I keep posting evidence the human eye and visual processing system can't identify more than about 76FPS.   Because computer games are interactive and there is a lot more feedback and processing going on that changes Frame rates there are other mechanisms by which we can identify a better performing system (i.e one with faster rates), however a movie has no feedback or lag potential.  After 80FPS there is no advantage to perception.


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Just now, emosun said:

I feel like when I'm just walking around looking at the world it doesn't look like 120fps

I mean, you ARE missing those sweet traced rays and artistic pixelation at that point.

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1 minute ago, williamcll said:

A projector like that must be expensive

i mean, from what i read they already have it apeariently... but those already are really expensive

 

1 minute ago, mr moose said:

Remember all those arguments over FPS on the forums?  Basically I keep posting evidence the human eye and visual processing system can't identify more than about 76FPS.   Because computer games are interactive and there is a lot more feedback and processing going on that changes Frame rates there are other mechanisms by which we can identify a better performing system (i.e one with faster rates), however a movie has no feedback or lag potential.  After 80FPS there is no advantage to perception.

haven't been in that one... but that does sound interesting

 

but what if it doesn't come at a higher cost? then it might be interesting...


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Just now, justpoet said:

I mean, you ARE missing those sweet traced rays and artistic pixelation at that point.

false... we have raytracing already

 

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1 minute ago, 191x7 said:

If a Cinema has a 3D projector it already supports higher refresh rates. Don't forget that.

i don't... but i think a lot of cinemas around here would have it, they're really modern


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21 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

but what if it doesn't come at a higher cost? then it might be interesting...

They can put movies out at 500fps if it doesn't cost more for all I care.

 

About the only thing ii can see being a problem (which some people experienced with peter jacksons 48FPS) is motion sickness.  Because the brain is not used to seeing panning type visuals without blur.  


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9 minutes ago, 191x7 said:

If a Cinema has a 3D projector it already supports higher refresh rates. Don't forget that.

most cinemas are digital nowadays and recieve movies as hard disks if i remember right o_o

 

anyway going from 24 to 120 will be a serious difference. might be a bit too much (to the point of demo TV sets flexing their refresh rate on a showroom floor "too much"), although you can sit those "human eye can't see past 24fps" people down in this movie and hear what they have to say afterwards o_o

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1 minute ago, mr moose said:

They can put movies out at 500fps if it doesn't cost more for all I care.

 

About the only thing ii can see being a problem (which some people experienced with peter jacksons 48FPS) is motion sickness.  Because the brain is not used to seeing panning type visuals without blur.  

there's only one way to know

 

and that's waiting...


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4 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

there's only one way to know

 

and that's waiting...

Take a sick bag with you just in case.  :D


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Just now, mr moose said:

Take a sick bag with you just in case.  :D

yeah, I'm probably not going... i just thought it was interesting when i was reading over tweakers


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I watched the Hobbit movies in a theater and I didn't get sick


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Server: 2x Intel Xeon E5420, Dell PowerEdge 2950, 32gb DDR2, ATI ES1000, 4x 146gb SAS

Dual Opteron PC: 2x AMD Opteron 2218, HP XW9400, 12gb DDR2, ATI Radeon 3650, 500gb HDD

Core2 Duo PC: Intel Core2 Duo E8400, HP DC7800, 4gb DDR2, NVIDIA Quadro FX1700, 1tb and 80gb HDD

Athlon XP PC: AMD Athlon XP 2400+, MSI something, 1,5gb DDR1, ATI Radeon 9200, 40gb HDD

Thinkpad: Intel Core2 Duo T7200, Lenovo Thinkpad T60, 4gb DDR2, ATI Mobility Radeon X1400, 1tb HDD

Pentium 3 PC: Intel Pentium 3 866MHz, Asus CUSL2-C, 512mb RAM, 3DFX VooDoo 3 2000 AGP

 

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2 minutes ago, VegetableStu said:

curious question: have you seen Hardcore Henry?

nope


PSU Tier List//Graphics card (cooling) tier list//Build Guide Megathread//Motherboard Tier List//Linux Guide//Build logs//Before troubleshoot//Mark Solved//Off Topic//Community standards

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Primary PC:

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CPU: I5-8600k  @4.5 ghz  GPU: GTX 1070 ti EVGA SC Gaming   RAM: 8+8 3360 mhz DDR4 Trident Z   MOBO: MSI Gaming Pro Carbon AC   HDD: 1 TB 7200 RPM Seagate Baracudda, 1 TB 5400 RPM Samsung ECOGREEN   SSD: Samsung 860 EVO 500 GB   Soundcard: built in   Case: Cooler Master Masterbox Lite 5 RGB   Screen: Salora 40LED1500

 

Secondary PC: Cedar mill

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CPU: i3-2130   GPU: Intel HD graphics   RAM: 4+2 GB 1333 mhz DDR3    MOBO: HP H series   HDD: 320 GB WD Black 7200 RPM   PSU: HP 250 watt   Soundcard: built in   Case: Sunbeam Quarterback   Screen: IIyama Prolite T2240MTS, Samsung SyncMaster710N

 

Server: CookieVault

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CPU: core2dual E8400   GPU: Intel HD graphics   RAM: 2+1+1+1 gb 1333 mhz ddr3   MOBO: HP Q series   HDD: 4x 1tb 5400 RPM Samsung Spinpoint Ecogreen   Soundcard: built in   Case: Compaq 6000 pro mt   Screen: Samsung SyncMaster710n

 

Laptop: Acer TravelMate 8573t

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CPU: I3-2330M   GPU: Intel HD graphics   RAM: 8+2 GB 1333 mhz DDR3   MOBO: Acer   SSD: 250 gb mx500 sata   Soundcard: built in   Case: Acer TravelMate 8573t   Screen: TN 768p

 

Consoles:

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PS4 slim glacier white 500 gb, PS4 FTP Special Edition 500 gb, Xbox, 3 DS lites, DSI XL, Gameboy Advanced Color, PS Vita v2, Wii, PS3 500 gb

 

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