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Posted · Original PosterOP

I'm running an OG G1.Sniper X58 board with an x5675 and with just a 4.0 OC, my VRM temps are ridiculous. I can't even touch the heatsink for more than a second. On my old P6TD Deluxe, the VRM heatsinks were almost room temperature at 4.3ghz on an X5680... I don't want to go back to stock clocks, but the 200mm fan I'm using in an effort to cool the VRM's is jammed up against the side glass and it only spins at 400rpm so it's not really doing much... And I was going to do the right-angle bracket mod for the rear fan to put another 120mm fan with higher RPM's pointed at the VRM's, but where it will sit it won't hit both heatsinks.

 

I was thinking of maybe picking up a busted P6TD Deluxe and just ripping the heatsinks off so that I could put some of those stock Asus VRM fans on, but that's a really expensive option considering those VRM fans are like $30 used EACH. And I'm not sure how well I would be able to fit them onto a Gigabyte board with totally different VRM design.

 

So the question is... Is there any aftermarket VRM cooling solutions? Air OR water because at this point I'm kind of desperate. I added a pic of the board just in case it helps people come up with an idea...

 

EDIT : Also, I'm running a ML240L... Not an air cooler.

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How hot are the VRM's? they are well within spec to run hotter than you can touch.  You might be able to find a "spot" fan or whatever they call them, that you can mount on a motherboard screw and attach a fan to its bendy arm.

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Noctua NH-C14S. Pricey, but worth every penny if you need to get some air blowing across your VRMs.

 

If you prefer water, the Cryorig A-model coolers have a 92mm VRM cooling fan mounted on the pump.


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12 minutes ago, FivePointOh said:

my VRM temps are ridiculous. I can't even touch the heatsink for more than a second.

unless you can touch a 80 degrees Celsius piece of Aluminum and call that "a bit warm", that's not a good way to tell if your VRM is overheating. Their throttle temperature is 125C on the top of the package or 150C on the silicon inside mind you.

 

14 minutes ago, FivePointOh said:

On my old P6TD Deluxe, the VRM heatsinks were almost room temperature at 4.3ghz on an X5680..

Yeah, that's a massive 16 phase VRM. Even if the components are the same as the Gigabyte G1 board (if it's the Rampage III Extreme's mosfet then it will just be stronger) it will run cooler by just being bigger and containing more components.

 

25 minutes ago, FivePointOh said:

 

EDIT : Also, I'm running a ML240L... Not an air cooler.

come on, just hang a proper 120mm or other sized case fan nearby blowing into it when you have all the space available on top of the CPU.


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18 hours ago, Jurrunio said:

unless you can touch a 80 degrees Celsius piece of Aluminum and call that "a bit warm", that's not a good way to tell if your VRM is overheating.

I understand that, but it does give some sort of gauge as to how hot it is. It has to be over 100C, and there's no other way for me to figure it out without spending money .

 

But anyways, I was wrong - it's not the VRM, those temps are fine. It's the chipset. I've already changed the paste out for AS5 but it's not doing enough so I ziptied an 80mm CM fan to it. I was looking at chipset cooling, but they look cheap as hell so I'm trying to figure out some way to improve it on the stock heatsink for now. Some people have tried cutting up their stock heatpipe setup to install an aftermarket chipset cooler but their southbridge and vrm temps went way up.


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Xeon X5675 @ 4.5ghz, 1.39v

Cooler Master ML240L AIO

Gamdias Astrape M1-750w

InWin 101C white case

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Redragon K551-RGB

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Just now, FivePointOh said:

I understand that, but it does give some sort of gauge as to how hot it is. It has to be over 100C, and there's no other way for me to figure it out without spending money .

 

But anyways, I was wrong - it's not the VRM, those temps are fine. It's the chipset. I've already changed the paste out for AS5 but it's not doing enough so I ziptied an 80mm CM fan to it. I was looking at chipset cooling, but they look cheap as hell so I'm trying to figure out some way to improve it on the stock heatsink for now. Some people have tried cutting up their stock heatpipe setup to install an aftermarket chipset cooler but their southbridge and vrm temps went way up.

X58 means hot chipset, no way of solving that


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5 hours ago, FivePointOh said:

I understand that, but it does give some sort of gauge as to how hot it is. It has to be over 100C, and there's no other way for me to figure it out without spending money .

 

But anyways, I was wrong - it's not the VRM, those temps are fine. It's the chipset. I've already changed the paste out for AS5 but it's not doing enough so I ziptied an 80mm CM fan to it. I was looking at chipset cooling, but they look cheap as hell so I'm trying to figure out some way to improve it on the stock heatsink for now. Some people have tried cutting up their stock heatpipe setup to install an aftermarket chipset cooler but their southbridge and vrm temps went way up.

The X58 chipset runs about as hot as the surface of the sun. That's why so there were so many aftermarket X58 boards that had a fan mount directly on top of the chipset heatsink.

 

A top-down air cooler helps tremendously with cooling the board around the CPU socket, and that includes the VRMs. Alternatively, you could pick up a case that has a fan mount in the side panel above the chipset VRMs and use that for cooling. Or you could keep a fan zip-tied to them and accept that trying to cool down an X58 heatsink is like trying to get the Democratic Party united behind a single candidate. It ain't gonna happen.


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Posted · Original PosterOP

Yeah, well I hoping something could be done to help it. I'm going to move my RX 570 down to the 2nd x16 slot to give it a little more breathing room around the chipset and also take out the pci-e usb adapter which is currently right below the RX 570 and that doesn't help at all.

 

The reason I haven't done the right-angle bracket off the rear case fan to get a fan blowing right at the mobo is that it would sit too high to blow much on the chipset unless I turned the rear fan around and then I'd have to mess with the setup of all my other case fans.


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Xeon X5675 @ 4.5ghz, 1.39v

Cooler Master ML240L AIO

Gamdias Astrape M1-750w

InWin 101C white case

Corsair Katar mouse

Redragon K551-RGB

Sades Snowwolf headset

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Posted · Original PosterOP

I moved my gpu to the 2nd slot so it's right above the bottom case fans and there's a ton of room around the chipset so I was able to get the fan zip tied on there a lot better. The temps are WAY better now. I even increased my overclock and temps on the cpu, chipset, and gpu are all much better. I also replaced the stock paste on my RX 570 with AS5 and the max temp went down 11 degrees.


Gigabyte G1.Sniper X58

Xeon X5675 @ 4.5ghz, 1.39v

Cooler Master ML240L AIO

Gamdias Astrape M1-750w

InWin 101C white case

Corsair Katar mouse

Redragon K551-RGB

Sades Snowwolf headset

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