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No, as a user of a high end model RX 570 with a 3550, i get full use from my 570, your CPU is slightly faster than mine.


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Not really. It's the perfect pairing. You may get a bottleneck in one or two of the really cpu demanding games, assassins creed odyssey, cities skylines, that kind of thing.

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Just now, nasrrafiq said:

dmc 5 lag for me 

3GB Vram might be limiting, have you checked temperatures, Vram usage & what settings?


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Just now, nasrrafiq said:

dmc 5 lag for me 

It could be a bottleneck, open task manager and see if CPU is at 100%

 


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3 minutes ago, nasrrafiq said:

dmc 5 lag for me 

modern AAA games will be bottlenecked by the cpu, but it's a short list, monster hunter, bfv, apex,anything from ubisoft


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Depends on the game.

 

DMC for my 6/12 only uses up around 17-25% CPU and 60-80% GPU use during gameplay 1080p at 144 cap.

 

In WoW though, when your frames drop in a raid, even a 5.1ghz 9900k is going to bottleneck even a GTX 1070


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It will mostly be your RAM that struggles. I can easily reach 8GB RAM usage while playing, over 10GB with browser open


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7 minutes ago, nasrrafiq said:

for dmc 5 cpu is 66-70%

and gpu temp is 60-75

Not a CPU bottleneck and the GPU is being worked hard enough.

 

Vram is my suggestion.


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Just now, BetterThanLife said:

Not a CPU bottleneck and the GPU is being worked hard enough.

 

Vram is my suggestion.

Thanks.

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You sure that's system RAM? 

Can you attach a picture of MSI Afterburner overlay? 


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10 minutes ago, Quadriplegic said:

It will mostly be your RAM that struggles. I can easily reach 8GB RAM usage while playing, over 10GB with browser open

Yeah but are you playing at the same Res and quality settings as he is?  His monitor is 1440x900 and his GPU only has 3GB of vram.  First thing I'd upgrade on that rig is GPU which is a more limiting gaming factor than the 8GB system ram or the CPU.  CPU and RAM would be next but unless the game is BFV changing the CPU first would not make near as large an improvement as a GPU with more power (BFV as we know destroys older 4-core CPUs) the CPU he has can at least handle much more GPU than a 1060 3GB version.

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As a user with a 1440x900 75hz (i use my Sony Bravia too at 1080P 60) The GPU is most likely this persons limiting part.


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14 minutes ago, nasrrafiq said:

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i can't recommend an upgrade from a 1060 with that cpu, it's a complete waste, not sure what you can do here other than waiting for zen 2 to build a new rig.


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Hell, seems like both might be problem:

I guess it is finally time to say R.I.P. to 3GB VRAM and 8GB system RAM


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8 minutes ago, xg32 said:

i can't recommend an upgrade from a 1060 with that cpu, it's a complete waste, not sure what you can do here other than waiting for zen 2 to build a new rig.

8GB 570 is an upgrade if he is free of Vram constraints.


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If you want to move to a much more robust system this is what i would go to.

 

 

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Motherboard: ASRock - B450 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($79.99 @ Newegg)
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PSU in case you need it? What PSU do you have?


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2 hours ago, Plutosaurus said:

Depends on the game.

 

DMC for my 6/12 only uses up around 17-25% CPU and 60-80% GPU use during gameplay 1080p at 144 cap.

 

In WoW though, when your frames drop in a raid, even a 5.1ghz 9900k is going to bottleneck even a GTX 1070

thank god someone said that it depends on the game

 

when people ask "does it bottleneck" and don't ask about the games.. oof.

 

1 hour ago, BetterThanLife said:

If you want to move to a much more robust system this is what i would go to.

 

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PSU in case you need it? What PSU do you have?

Or get the RX 590 that I just saw you use, $100 less and performs a little worse than the 1070.

 

Just a heads up, the PSU you have picked out is pretty old and people really shouldn't be buying it.


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Just now, mxk. said:

Or get the RX 590 that I just saw you use, $100 less and performs a little worse than the 1070.

 

Just a heads up, the PSU you have picked out is pretty old and people really shouldn't be buying it.

PSU is fine and killer at that price, not much of anything comes near it for the money my friend.

 

Yes agree with the 590 suggestion.


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3 minutes ago, BetterThanLife said:

PSU is fine and killer at that price, not much of anything comes near it for the money my friend.

 

Yes agree with the 590 suggestion.

the only problem is that it uses a over 10 year old outdated design, and that newer designs like the cx(m) exist...

 

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3 minutes ago, BetterThanLife said:

PSU is fine and killer at that price, not much of anything comes near it for the money my friend.

 

Yes agree with the 590 suggestion.

520 is more than enough in the first place. A 450w is more ideal for it. 

 

A corsair CX450 is a much better PSU design and costs about the same amount of money as the M12ii 520w. 

 

 


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