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Posted · Original PosterOP

I still haven't seen the Avengers yet. (Any of them) as i'm not really a Marvel fan and only really like a few select characters. 

 

Nevertheless, if i want to watch the Avenger films, what films do i NEED to watch to understand them all?

 

I seen a few links online like this:

https://www.imdb.com/list/ls020525837/

and

http://digg.com/2017/how-to-watch-all-of-marvel-cinematic-universe

 

which include tons of films and TV shows... sigh.


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You could probably just watch the Avengers movies in order and be ok.

 

But if u want the backstory of each main character you should watch atleast the Iron Man , Capt America, and Thor films.

 

But for the full cast of Infinity war and their stories so far you could watch:

 

Iron Man

Iron Man 2

Thor

Capt America

Avengers

Iron Man 3

Thor Dark World

Guardians of the galaxy 1 & 2

Capt America Winter Soldier

Avengers Ultron

Antman

Doctor Strange

Captain America Civil war

Black Panther

Spider Man Homecoming

Thor Ragnarok

Avengers Infinity war

 

You could watch Incredible Hulk (2008) aswell but they changed the actor and really only the after credits scene ties it to the rest of the films so not really needed.

 

Then after that ur leading up to End game

 

As i siad, the full list above is so u know each characters story, but the Avengers films themselves i think can be watched on their own. Right now i cant think an instance where u really need to have watched other movies to enjoy the Avengers films. Unless u outright know nothing about Marvel characters.

 

As for the series. No needo t watch them, the only 1 i have seen that has a direct connection to the movies is Agents of Shield via Agent Colsen and his story. but its not required to be seen for the movies as they have seperate stories, it just explains what happens to Colsen after the movies.


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What do you know about Marvel so far? If you know the backstories off all the main characters then you can just watch the Avengers movies and enjoy them. You wont get as much out of them as someone who watches ALL of the movies, but they could still be enjoyable as stand alones

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Just watch them in release order IMO.. You only really need Iron man onwards, as anything before that doesn't really fit in with the MCU for me.


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Pretty much all Marvel movies after Iron man, feature in the MCU in some way IMO... I like them all though. Pretty much everything from X-men onwards, yes even Fantastic Four and the earlier spider-man movies :D

 

Here is a list of the MCU movies  https://www.marvel.com/movies


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Depends how in depth you wanna go. If you don't wanna go super in depth then I'd say you could probably get by with:

 

Iron Man

Iron Man 2

Captain America: The First Avenger

Thor

Avengers Assemble

Captain America: The Winter Soldier

Avengers: Age of Ultron

Captain America: Civil War

Thor: Ragnarok

Doctor Strange (Not 100% necessary but advised)

Black Panther (Honestly kinda less necessary than Dr Strange)

Infinity War

 

After that I'd say Ant Man and the Wasp and Captain Marvel before Endgame comes out.

 

If you're willing to go more in depth though then just start with Iron Man and watch them all from there.


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43 minutes ago, SolarNova said:

As i siad, the full list above is so u know each characters story, but the Avengers films themselves i think can be watched on their own. Right now i cant think an instance where u really need to have watched other movies to enjoy the Avengers films. Unless u outright know nothing about Marvel characters.

40 minutes ago, Ravendarat said:

What do you know about Marvel so far? If you know the backstories off all the main characters then you can just watch the Avengers movies and enjoy them. You wont get as much out of them as someone who watches ALL of the movies, but they could still be enjoyable as stand alones

Well i could just watch the Avenger films but i know they are all about some infinity stones or something that are tied to other films?

 

That's literally all i know and that Mace Windu is Nick Fury (I don't know his real name, lol). I have only seen Iron Man 1 and Spiderman.

 

I haven't seen the Hulk, any Thor or Captain America films (Which i know are supposed to be really important apparently) or even Guardians of the Galaxy etc. 

 

Curious, are any of the X-Men characters in the Avenger films?


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For copyright and ownership reasons the MCU cant include 'mutants', including the referencing the 'X-men', however they are of the same universe which is why u see a helicarrier in Deadpool for example, right now though u need not worry about them.

 

Quicksilver and Scarlet witch are in the film(s), BUT are not refered to as mutants, and no references to Magneto or the Xmen.

 

Nick Fury is played by Samuel L Jackson.

 

If you know so little about the MCU, then i sugest watching the entire list, it will help.

 

 


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4 hours ago, TheBritishVillain said:

I still haven't seen the Avengers yet. (Any of them) as i'm not really a Marvel fan and only really like a few select characters. 

 

Nevertheless, if i want to watch the Avenger films, what films do i NEED to watch to understand them all?

 

I seen a few links online like this:

https://www.imdb.com/list/ls020525837/

and

http://digg.com/2017/how-to-watch-all-of-marvel-cinematic-universe

 

which include tons of films and TV shows... sigh.

I would suggest the following order:

 

1. Captain America #1

2. Iron Man (not strictly necessary, but if you haven't seen it, it's still one of the best)

3. Thor (not strictly necessary, but sets up Loki)

4. Avengers 1

5. Thor 2 (not amazing, but sets up one of the Stones)

6. Avengers 2

7. Captain America Civil War

8. Doctor Strange

9. Thor Ragnarok

10. Guardians 1 and 2 (2 isn't actually necessary)

11. Black Panther

12. Avengers 3

 

You could shorten this list to:

1. Captain America #1

2. Avengers 1

3. Avengers 2

4. Civil War

5. Doctor Strange

6. Thor Ragnarok

7. Guardians 1

8. Black Panther

9. Avengers 3

 

I'd also recommend Captain Marvel (Saw it last night) - it's a "prequel" (takes place in 1995) but it might be important for Avengers 4 (comes out in about a month or so).


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3 minutes ago, Teddy07 said:

Not worth it because feminist marvel is destroying it.

that train of thought shouldn't have made you buy a ticket to the movie to be honest ._.

 

or maybe you didn't watch it, in that case, cool.

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14 minutes ago, Teddy07 said:

Not worth it because feminist marvel is destroying it.

I saw Captain Marvel last night (the "most" feminist Marvel movie, I'd say).

 

It was fucking Aweeeeeeeeeeesome. So good. Great action. Really funny. Casting was freaking spot on in every case (Ben Mendelsohn as the Skrull leader was surprisingly hilarious). Even the damn cat stole the show.

 

I'm a white male. I loved this movie and didn't feel bad one second watching it. Nor did I feel attacked or marginalized.

 

Yes, there are depictions of men talking down to Danvers in the film - but she was an Air Force fighter pilot in the 1980's and early 90's. That kind of thing happened - women like her (if she existed) would really have dealt with that kind of shit on occasion. Does it mean all men do it? Fuck no. There were dozens of other men in the movie who didn't do those things, and were good characters.

 

TL;DR:

Captain Marvel is a kickass movie, and I highly recommend it. 8/10 for sure (with a 5 being an "average" not horrible but not great, "meh" movie).


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I saw Captain Marvel last night and also thought it was awesome, I was legitimately shocked at some of the backlash it’s getting

I would say I don't get it. But I do. There are people that feel threatened by it - or somehow misinterpret it to be a direct attack on them as males.

 

It's not.

 

As long as you're not the douche bag jock who tells random women to "Smile baby" or thinks they can't do the job simply because they're a woman? There's nothing to be offended about.

 

That would be like me getting really really angry personally every time a male rapist is featured in a movie. I'm not a rapist, so I don't see that as an attack against me.

 

And for the same reason, I don't feel attacked by Captain Marvel (or the comments by Brie Larson, either).


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5 hours ago, dalekphalm said:

You could shorten this list to:

1. Captain America #1

2. Avengers 1

3. Avengers 2

4. Civil War

5. Doctor Strange

6. Thor Ragnarok

7. Guardians 1

8. Black Panther

9. Avengers 3

I would put Winter Soldier in there for context in between the events of Captain America The First Avenger and Captain America Civil War.

 

I can imagine anyone who goes from The First Avenger straight to Civil War will be confused on Bucky's transformation, this is where Winter Soldier fills that bridge.

 

Not the mention that Winter Soldier is just simply an amazing movie between two best friends turned against each other.


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5 hours ago, dalekphalm said:

I would say I don't get it. But I do. There are people that feel threatened by it - or somehow misinterpret it to be a direct attack on them as males.

 

It's not.

 

As long as you're not the douche bag jock who tells random women to "Smile baby" or thinks they can't do the job simply because they're a woman? There's nothing to be offended about.

 

That would be like me getting really really angry personally every time a male rapist is featured in a movie. I'm not a rapist, so I don't see that as an attack against me.

 

And for the same reason, I don't feel attacked by Captain Marvel (or the comments by Brie Larson, either).

If thats what it is then those same people I have no use for what so ever, thats a ridiculous and stupid line of thinking

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I would say I don't get it. But I do. There are people that feel threatened by it - or somehow misinterpret it to be a direct attack on them as males.

 

Sure, the movie itself isn't a direct attack on males (as far as I know) but when you have the main lead attacking people who don't like the movie and labeling them as angry white males, the movie becomes stigmatized. Plus, there was a lot of lead up to its release about it being all about feminism and trying to make a statement. I haven't seen the movie so I don't know just how pushy it is but if you want to make a good movie that promotes how great women are, then just make a strong female lead and let that speak for itself. 

 

Then when you have Rotten Tomatoes (who have really lost all credibility at this point) removing the want to see poll claiming that it was just trolls bringing the score down, then lying about it and saying they were leaving false reviews, and then delete actual reviews in order to protect the movie and a narrative, then it aliantes people even further.

 

Some people just don't want things shoved down their throat, especially when they already believe everyone is equal anyway.

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I think you really only need to see Avengers 1, Avengers 2, Captain America Civil War (which is practically an Avengers movie), and then Infinity War and Endgame. None of the characters are really that complicated and need backstory. 

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Captain Marvel took a dump on the source material, so if ur a Marvel fan , especialy of the comics, you wont like it. If ur a MCU fan, it may feel shoehorned in as some plot points dont make sense, its not a bad movie, but its the worst of the MCU films.

 

If your an normi movie watcher, who isnt isnt a fan of the MCU, or rather hasnt seen many of any of the MCU films, then it will just be another movie, not good not bad.

 

I think in the end if the actor had kep her mouth shut, alot of the vitriol that has been going around wouldnt have happened, and the film would have just come out and been rated 'meh' without the extremes of 'its brilliant' or 'its trash' ..becouse its neither, it really is just an ok movie.


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12 hours ago, seoz said:

I would put Winter Soldier in there for context in between the events of Captain America The First Avenger and Captain America Civil War.

 

I can imagine anyone who goes from The First Avenger straight to Civil War will be confused on Bucky's transformation, this is where Winter Soldier fills that bridge.

 

Not the mention that Winter Soldier is just simply an amazing movie between two best friends turned against each other.

I would generally agree with you, but Winter Solider, if you're trying to compress the viewing as much as possible, isn't really crucial for the story - even if you skip it, you get the gist of Bucky's backstory well enough to follow along.

 

If time permits, Winter Soldier should definitely be watched, since I firmly believe it's one of the absolute best MCU movies. Top 3 for me.

12 hours ago, Ravendarat said:

If thats what it is then those same people I have no use for what so ever, thats a ridiculous and stupid line of thinking

Yeah it's best to ignore them if you can.

11 hours ago, Kawaii Koneko said:

Sure, the movie itself isn't a direct attack on males (as far as I know) but when you have the main lead attacking people who don't like the movie and labeling them as angry white males, the movie becomes stigmatized.

Comments taken out of context and lambasted over a nothing sandwich. Larson commented on how the movie journalism industry is pretty homogeneous (mostly older white men). She wanted to promote inclusion for movie journalists from a diverse background (including the old white men).

 

Somehow, people took that to mean she doesn't like white male journalists or something.

 

It was a fake controversy.

 

She's not labeling people who don't like the movie as angry white men. The problem is that people attempted to flood the movie with bad reviews before they had seen the film at all. This was a small group of trolls, but it was apparently enough to trigger some manufactured controversy.

11 hours ago, Kawaii Koneko said:

Plus, there was a lot of lead up to its release about it being all about feminism and trying to make a statement. I haven't seen the movie so I don't know just how pushy it is but if you want to make a good movie that promotes how great women are, then just make a strong female lead and let that speak for itself.

The only statement it makes runs pretty accurately along with history. Women in the military had to struggle more with their peers, who weren't always accepting of women in the force. There was also a ban (for real) on female combat pilots until 1993. The portion of the movie where she serves as a US Navy fighter pilot takes place in 1989.

 

So yes, Captain Danvers experiences some (note: some, as in, a minority of them) men that talk down to her because she's a woman in the military, and isn't allowed to fly combat missions. But that's 100% realistic and should be in there.

 

The movie isn't about "man bad, woman strong". That's just an accurate backdrop detail in a story about defeating the doubt in your own confidence.

11 hours ago, Kawaii Koneko said:

Then when you have Rotten Tomatoes (who have really lost all credibility at this point) removing the want to see poll claiming that it was just trolls bringing the score down, then lying about it and saying they were leaving false reviews, and then delete actual reviews in order to protect the movie and a narrative, then it aliantes people even further.

Let's be honest, trolls did target and attack this movie. Whether it was a lot of trolls, and significant enough to distort the perception of the film? That is the question.

11 hours ago, Kawaii Koneko said:

Some people just don't want things shoved down their throat, especially when they already believe everyone is equal anyway.

Trust me, this movie doesn't shove anything down your throat.

 

If you already feel everyone is equal? You won't have any issues with this movie. You'll celebrate Danvers and her struggles, and you'll cheer with her and all the other good guys (male and female).

57 minutes ago, SolarNova said:

Captain Marvel took a dump on the source material, so if ur a Marvel fan , especialy of the comics, you wont like it. If ur a MCU fan, it may feel shoehorned in as some plot points dont make sense, its not a bad movie, but its the worst of the MCU films.

I'm not a huge Comic Book fan, so I'm not as familiar with her history, but I think given the various creative freedoms they've ALWAYS taken with the MCU, this isn't terribly different from many of the other changes they've already made. They certainly didn't do her a disservice, even if they did change some origin details.

 

As a huge MCU fan, who is extremely familiar with all the movies, this was a fantastic movie. Sure it shoehorns in a few answers to questions we had (Fury's eye), but it doesn't retcon anything massive.

57 minutes ago, SolarNova said:

If your an normi movie watcher, who isnt isnt a fan of the MCU, or rather hasnt seen many of any of the MCU films, then it will just be another movie, not good not bad.

Disagree with this particular opinion on it. A regular non-MCU viewer can definitely enjoy this movie as a totally stand alone film. You don't need to know anything about the MCU to understand all the characters.

 

And if you are a fan of the MCU, you'll probably quite like it.

57 minutes ago, SolarNova said:

I think in the end if the actor had kep her mouth shut, alot of the vitriol that has been going around wouldnt have happened, and the film would have just come out and been rated 'meh' without the extremes of 'its brilliant' or 'its trash' ..becouse its neither, it really is just an ok movie.

You're probably right that if she had kept her mouth shut, there probably wouldn't have been as much troll backlash and angry reaction.

 

It's a sad thing, indeed. Because she shouldn't need to have to keep her mouth shut. She never said anything ridiculous, and people attacked an out of context quote. Sad, indeed, that people are so eager to hate.

 

Anyway, TL;DR, I thought this movie was goddamn great. And as a very avid MCU viewer, I rate the movie as mid-slightly-upper tier MCU. Possibility within the top 10.


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To understand everything, you need to watch all the marvel studios movies. To understand the main plot, I'd say you need:

 

The Avengers (you can skip the origin stories and still understand what's going on)
Captain America:  Winter Soldier
Guardians of the galaxy

Avengers: age of Ultron

Captain America: Civil War

Doctor Strange

Thor Ragnarok

Avengers: Infinity War

 

Of these you can probably skip Doctor Strange if you're willing to take what he says and does in IW at face value, but I recommend watching it - it's a good movie.


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-Lenovo Thinkpad X220 - [8/10]

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A durable and reliable machine that is relatively lightweight, has all the hardware it needs to never feel sluggish and has a great IPS matte screen. Downsides are mostly due to its age, most notably the screen resolution of 1366x768 and usb 2.0 ports.

 

-Apple Macbook (2015) - [Garbage -/10]

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From my perspective, this product has no redeeming factors given its price and the competition. It is underpowered, overpriced, impractical due to its single port and is made redundant even by Apple's own iPad pro line.

 

-OnePlus X - [7/10]

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A good phone for the price. It does everything I (and most people) need without being sluggish and has no particularly bad flaws. The lack of recent software updates and relatively barebones feature kit (most notably the lack of 5GHz wifi, biometric sensors and backlight for the capacitive buttons) prevent it from being exceptional.

 

-Microsoft Surface Book 2 - [Garbage - -/10]

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Overpriced and rushed, offers nothing notable compared to the competition, doesn't come with an adequate charger despite the premium price. Worse than the Macbook for not even offering the small plus sides of having macOS. Buy a Razer Blade if you want high performance in a (relatively) light package.

 

-Intel Core i7 2600/k - [9/10]

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-Apple iPad Pro - [5/10]

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