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Firefox adding more aggressive anti-fingerprinting protection with version 67

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Link: https://www.zdnet.com/article/firefox-to-add-tor-browser-anti-fingerprinting-technique-called-letterboxing/

 

In the interest of protecting user privacy, Mozilla will be adding more aggressive anti-fingerprinting protection with Firefox 67 in May 2019. The feature is copied over from the Tor Browser, a privacy-focused web browser that uses the onion protocol.

 

Onion browsing involves encrypting your traffic in multiple layers, and routing the traffic through multiple proxies before it reaches the destination server. The idea is that the proxy nodes do not know what payload they are delivering, or what source is connecting to what destination. They only know what node they are getting data from, and what node they're passing it to*. This is much safer privacy-wise than normal web browsing, but it comes with some flaws. One of the inherent issues is that it doesn't really stop the practice of fingerprinting, in which ad networks will try to scrape as much data from the person/browser accessing the site with ads on it, and build a digital fingerprint of that person. This could include data such as physical location, actions taken on the page, and even information about the user's computer, including the user agent (i.e. which browser is used), and even the dimensions of the browser window.

 

The particular feature that Firefox is adding to their anti-fingerprinting mode is called letterboxing, in which the browser actually slightly changes the dimensions of the page when loaded, in an attempt to make it harder for ad networks to fingerprint the user through browser dimensions. A grey border is added on the edges of the window, to make it so that Firefox isn't reporting the real dimensions of your window at any given time.

 

Like most privacy boosting features in web browsers, letterboxing can cause its own issues in usability. The feature is available in the nightly dev version of Firefox, and when enabled, many sites break due to not being able to properly place items on the page.

 

*This is a really simplified explanation and not 100% accurate

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Very cool to see. So from my understanding is the letterbox is going to have to change every single time you go to a site otherwise the whole thing would be negated. Also creating fake noise and spoofing your user agent helps too


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nice... They really want to fight google now. Nice


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Right now, I'm jumping between Chrome and Firefox. I'm really pleased with Mozilla's focus on privacy and disappointed in Chrome's apparent lack of concern in this regard. Continued efforts like this could entice me to use Firefox way more.

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I am a WaterFox user.

 

Any clues on if this is implemented in Water edition?


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What is the benefit of this?

 

3 minutes ago, BetterThanLife said:

Any clues on if this is implemented in Water edition?

why are you using waterfox when firefox has a native 64bit version now?

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What is the benefit of this?

 

why are you using waterfox when firefox has a native 64bit version now?

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11 minutes ago, ZacoAttaco said:

Chrome's apparent lack of concern in this regard. [privacy]

Who would've thought that a product made by a company that sells its users data to make money would care about one's privacy?

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Just now, Billy Pilgrim said:

Who would've thought that a product made by a company that sells its users data to make money would care about one's privacy?

I mean you're not wrong, but they don't even put on a facade at all. Their intentions are clear.

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Installed the FF nightly.. way faster than WaterFox! SOLD!


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1 hour ago, poochyena said:

What is the benefit of this?

Advertisers (and other groups) have really intelligent ways of tracking people beyond cookies which are hard to block, such as the display resolution example and your browser uuid to name a couple. Privacy is one of the main tenets of Mozilla so they have a vested interest in blocking these practices. If you're an Internet usage exhibitionist, then I suppose it doesn't matter to you.


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36 minutes ago, 2FA said:

Advertisers (and other groups) have really intelligent ways of tracking people beyond cookies which are hard to block, such as the display resolution example and your browser uuid to name a couple.

Which is a good thing, it gives you more accurate ads. I don't understand what the downside is.

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2 minutes ago, poochyena said:

Which is a good thing, it gives you more accurate ads. I don't understand what the downside is.

The fact that your getting tracked. Your giving up privacy, something that should never just be given to anyone that wants it in the first place. You can find a huge amount out about a person with just a few pieces of info that most would think is worth nothing.


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13 minutes ago, 8uhbbhu8 said:

something that should never just be given to anyone that wants it in the first place.

why?

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43 minutes ago, 8uhbbhu8 said:

You can find a huge amount out about a person with just a few pieces of info that most would think is worth nothing.

Bad example but not really;

 

One of my friends was able to track down an,,, associate (not a friend really but not hated) based on nothing but his first name, the state he lived in and the colors that his high school used at their graduation ceremony. He not only found his full name and address but also found both of his parents and brother... this took him just one hour. I'm scared to think of what else he could have found with more data.


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59 minutes ago, DragonTamer1 said:

Bad example but not really;

 

One of my friends was able to track down an,,, associate (not a friend really but not hated) based on nothing but his first name, the state he lived in and the colors that his high school used at their graduation ceremony. He not only found his full name and address but also found both of his parents and brother... this took him just one hour. I'm scared to think of what else he could have found with more data.

Shows just how little you really need. And people put their entire lives on the internet now.


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1 hour ago, DragonTamer1 said:

Bad example but not really;

 

One of my friends was able to track down an,,, associate (not a friend really but not hated) based on nothing but his first name, the state he lived in and the colors that his high school used at their graduation ceremony. He not only found his full name and address but also found both of his parents and brother... this took him just one hour. I'm scared to think of what else he could have found with more data.

I think this is a very bad example because it breaks down easily when thought about critically.

 

Either your friend has a very uncommon first name such as "hgohegghe" or it is completely made up, or this friend already knew all of this before the elaborate approach to pull you in to his fantasy world.

 

I shall go search for the name Sarah and see what it comes up with.

 

 

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13 hours ago, BuckGup said:

Very cool to see. So from my understanding is the letterbox is going to have to change every single time you go to a site otherwise the whole thing would be negated. Also creating fake noise and spoofing your user agent helps too

either changing it every time, or having the letterbox same size for everyone, effectively making everyones browser look the same so individual cant be targeted


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6 hours ago, BetterThanLife said:

I think this is a very bad example because it breaks down easily when thought about critically.

 

Either your friend has a very uncommon first name such as "hgohegghe" or it is completely made up, or this friend already knew all of this before the elaborate approach to pull you in to his fantasy world.

 

I shall go search for the name Sarah and see what it comes up with.

 

 

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Yeah that is not even close to what fingerprinting is. That’s simply using social media indexing, which you can opt out of on facebook, to find someone. Microsoft made a tool awhile back called entity cube that would show you all the links it found on the internet with someone and you could browse through how that person is connected to everything. It’s now closed source and paid 


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Why not just detect scripts that attempt doing this measurement and block them? Is that even doable or do they need to fake the window size like this?

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10 hours ago, DragonTamer1 said:

I'm scared to think of what else he could have found with more data.

scared of what? What is scary about someone finding publicly available information?

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5 hours ago, RejZoR said:

Why not just detect scripts that attempt doing this measurement and block them? Is that even doable or do they need to fake the window size like this?

Web pages require that information to load properly. It has a real use. That's why the simple solution of "Just give it completely random numbers" doesn't work.

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