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USB 3.2 (20Gbps) has been rebranded to USB 3.2 Gen 2x2, while also rebranding USB 3.1 Gen 2 (10Gbps) to USB 3.2 Gen 2, and rebranding USB 3.1 Gen 1 (Which was USB 3 prior to the EARLIER rebrand) into USB 3.2 Gen 1. 

 

(Table in description might make that make more sense. Originally from Tom’s Hardware, shown in MacRumors article.)

 

Who put George Lucas in charge of the naming department?

 

Boy, I can’t wait to see this explanation on the WAN show. 

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Can someone explain to me why they need to retroactively rename older standards? Why isn't it USB 3 Gen 1, 2, and 3? Or better yet, just USB 3.0, 3.1, and 3.2?

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Is it going to need 2 3.1 gen 2 10gbps ports and gets tied into 1 bonded cable?

 

thats what the name makes it look like

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3 minutes ago, sazrocks said:

Can someone explain to me why they need to retroactively rename older standards? Why isn't it USB 3 Gen 1, 2, and 3? Or better yet, just USB 3.0, 3.1, and 3.2?

I slightly understand the 2x2 stuff, as is is just technically 2 10Gbps connections slapped together, instead of an evolution. 

 

But who cares? 3, 3.1, and 3.2 would’ve sufficed. Agreed. 

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1 minute ago, Arika S said:

Is it going to need 2 3.1 gen 2 10gbps ports and gets tied into 1 bonded cable?

it will use both sides of usb type c for the "2x2" 20Gbps instead of just being a reversible cable

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1 minute ago, Arika S said:

Is it going to need 2 3.1 gen 2 10gbps ports and gets tied into 1 bonded cable?

 

thats what the name makes it look like

It sounds like it’s essentially internally bonded inside the wire? It’s basically just a technicality, saying “Well, it’s not really a new standard, so we can’t call it 3.2 without qualifications.”

 

Except they could. No one would be upset. 

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I was actually thinking of making a topic of this myself, it frustrates me to no end.

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What the fuck is wrong with them? USB must be hiring the same retards that nVidia got to name the GTX 1660 Ti...

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How hard is it to just use USB 3.0, 3.1 and 3.2......

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5 minutes ago, Captain Chaos said:

Oh for f***s sake!   As if the whole thing with 87 variants of USB-C wasn't complicated enough already.

 

Screw this, I'm going back to USB 2.0.

It's like Intel saying "you are right, all this i9, i7 with no HT, etc is confusing. Therefore, we are renaming our older CPUs!" :D

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3 minutes ago, SpaceGhostC2C said:

It's like Intel saying "you are right, all this i9, i7 with no HT, etc is confusing. Therefore, we are renaming our older CPUs!" :D

Where's my Core i9x9

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Guys, I need real ideas here. Come on. We've got to make USB 3 less confusing. 

What if we... obfuscated it further?

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What in the hell is with the names for USB 3.x?

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Sounds like they put a Soundcloud rapper in charge of the name 

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Everyone complaining about not just using USB 3.x

 

I on the other hand is wondering why the fuck you would use SUPERSPEED usb 20GBPS as a marketing term it just sounds awful

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Sigh. This sucks. I know why companies want to be able to bullshit their way into misleading consumers into pretending to support new standards that they don't actually support, but like fuck you. This is exactly why the standards organization is supposed to exist. to PREVENT this sort of bullshit.

 

Tired of the USB-IF being walked all over. Get off your ass and stand for something.

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Here's a thought for the intelligent ones developing this.

USB  3.2 Gen 1. -  USB 3 

USB  3.2 Gen 2. -  USB 4

USB  3.2 Gen 2x2. -  USB 5

 

Now when buying something it's sometimes Plug and Pray as to what speed it's going to run. 

 

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2 minutes ago, VegetableStu said:

fun fact: USB-C 2.0 cables exist!

source: I bought one to power a camera with a portable battery

Connector is not the same as the  standard. (And I don't have a problem with that) You can have any connector with any USB standard. Even  USB 1.0 on USB-C

 

One of my gripes was that most phones with Type-C were actually just the garden variety USB 3.0 (or 3.1 Gen 1).     And I was in the mode of trying to push video streaming from a PC to the Gear VR.  So wanted the most bandwidth possible. 

 

 

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