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Posted · Original PosterOP

Hello there , my setup is :

  • Motherboard: MSI B150 Gaming G3

  • CPU : Intel i5 6600k

  • RAM : Hyper X 8GB 2133mhz

  • GPU : MSI GTX 970 4G

  • PSU:Coolermaster 700W 80Plus 

So i tried to update my bios via MSI Live Update , but it seems that the software is broken . (My BIOS is outdated) . I tried to overclock my CPU to 4,2GHZ (from 3,5) but bios cant let me do this . When i enter 42 and press enter it auto undo and set the value to auto ... Any ideas?

 

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B150 boards can't do multiplier overclocking as far as I know. You can increase the BCLK for a small overclock, but it's probably not going to get very high.


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Posted · Original PosterOP
16 minutes ago, BobVonBob said:

B150 boards can't do multiplier overclocking as far as I know. You can increase the BCLK for a small overclock, but it's probably not going to get very high.

Really thank you for your answer . Can you analyze it to me? what that means???

 

the 1st year i was using the pc , the ratio of the CPU was 3,9Ghz .. Suddenly (maybe some1 change bios settings) it fell to 3,5 ghz with turbo boost on ... any idea how at least i get 3,9ghz?

 

I have a bug with "intel adaptive thermal monitor" , which when i enable it , every cpu core throatles at 800mhz

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Just update the BIOS from the BIOS instead of Windows tool.


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The best thing to do is reading the clock speed that doesnt end in a pair of zeros. Software voltage readings are wrong if your motherboard's not a high end model

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1 minute ago, Udaba said:

Really thank you for your answer . Can you analyze it to me? what that means???

 

the 1st year i was using the pc , the ratio of the CPU was 3,9Ghz .. Suddenly (maybe some1 change bios settings) it fell to 3,5 ghz with turbo boost on ... any idea how at least i get 3,9ghz?

Did you find the clock speed under load? The chip will only boost to 3.9 GHz when under a reasonably heavy load to save power.


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Intel Core i7-3820 | Corsair H100i | ASUS P9X79-LE | 16GB Patriot Viper 3 1866MHz DDR3 | MSI GTX 970 Gaming 4G | 2TB WD Blue M.2 SATA SSD | 2TB Hitachi Deskstar HDD | 1TB WD Black HDD | Corsair CX750M Fractal Design Define R5 Windows 10 Pro / Linux Mint 19 Cinnamon

 

Laptop:

Dell XPS 15 9560 4K Touch | Intel Core i5-7300HQ | 12GB Generic (Crucial?) 2133MHz DDR4 | Nvidia GTX 1050 | 256GB Toshiba M.2 NVMe SSD | Windows 10

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Posted · Original PosterOP
11 minutes ago, BobVonBob said:

Did you find the clock speed under load? The chip will only boost to 3.9 GHz when under a reasonably heavy load to save power.

well i can see through task manager or open hardware monitor that the CPU will reach 3,5ghz at best ... any idea if i have to change something on BIOS for this?

 

11 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Just update the BIOS from the BIOS instead of Windows tool.

How i can do that? I tried MSI live update but its broken software .

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10 minutes ago, Udaba said:

How i can do that? I tried MSI live update but its broken software .

https://storage-asset.msi.com/file/pdf/How_to_flash_the_BIOS.pdf

 

 

Is your mobo actually gaming M3?


Please quote my post, or put @paddy-stone if you want me to respond to you, I may not see your post otherwise.

 

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8 minutes ago, Udaba said:

Yes it is . i just updated the bios . i was too afraid to do this alone .. thank you ... but , the bugs continues ...

It's because it's a b150 board as others noted above... my b250 board is the same and maxes the ratio at 40 for my 6700K. Try setting it to 40, or see where the limit is.

 

[edit] you're welcome BTW, no problem :)

 


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Posted · Original PosterOP
3 minutes ago, paddy-stone said:

It's because it's a b150 board as others noted above... my b250 board is the same and maxes the ratio at 40 for my 6700K. Try setting it to 40, or see where the limit is.

 

[edit] you're welcome BTW, no problem :)

 

Thank you for your help ... one last thing as i mentioned , when i bought this CPU the ratio at windows task manager or Open Hardware Monitor , was 3,9ghz , can i change anything to BIOS to change this? i read a lot things about : VT-D tech , c-state , EIST(Enchanded Intel SpeedStep) . HPET , or even Intel Serial I/O , do i really need them?

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47 minutes ago, Udaba said:

Thank you for your help ... one last thing as i mentioned , when i bought this CPU the ratio at windows task manager or Open Hardware Monitor , was 3,9ghz , can i change anything to BIOS to change this? i read a lot things about : VT-D tech , c-state , EIST(Enchanded Intel SpeedStep) . HPET , or even Intel Serial I/O , do i really need them?

Leave those options alone IMO, you can read more baout them by googling it, but they are USUALLY set by default and are fine. Just change the ratio, if you can... everything else to OC the CPU is locked down on the non-Z motherboards for intel CPUs. You would really have been better off getting a z170 board if you wanted to OC.


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  • Displays:-
  • Panasonic 55" 4k TV
  • LG 29" Ultrawide
  •  
  • Storage/NAS/Servers:-
  •  
  • Backup server - HP Proliant Gen 8 4 bay NAS running FreeNAS ZFS striped 3x3TiB WD reds
  • HP ProLiant G6 Server SE316M1 Twin Hex Core Intel Xeon E5645 2.40GHz 48GB RAM
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  • Xiaomi/Pocaphone F1 128GB 6GB RAM
  • Lenovo k3 note
  • Windows tablet
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  • AMD phenom II 1055t / 8GB RAM / DVD writer
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Posted · Original PosterOP

just noticed something strange . 1st boot up of the day (after the post) , all cpu cores were running 3604mhz , after restart runs at 3504mhz as shows at Open Hardware Monitor

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On a locked motherboard, you need to enable the C states (C3 or C6) in the bios to obtain maximum speed.  This should allow you to access the 39 multiplier when a single core is active.

 

http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Core_i5/Intel-Core i5-6600K.html

 

Use ThrottleStop.  It is a better monitoring tool for tracking the maximum multiplier of locked CPUs or locked motherboards.  Run the built in TS Bench test and set Threads to 1.  Monitor your CPU multiplier while this test is running.  Turn off the rest of your monitoring apps.  The less background apps that are running on your computer, the more your CPU can use the maximum multiplier.  ThrottleStop can also show you if your C states are working correctly.  Post a picture while your CPU is loaded and this test is running.

 

Edit - Use ThrottleStop to disable BD PROCHOT and bypass the 800 MHz throttling blues.

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