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Which water cooling should i do?

16 hours ago, Sir_damian said:

Hi, I want to know for a beginner of using water cooling but also wants a great performance. Which should I uses, a custom water loop or an AIO water cooling? I'm using the i7 8700k cpu and that is all I'm gonna water cooled for now.

There really is no 'beginner' option ..well there is kinda, but it only takes out some of the decision making.

 

AIO's are installed just as a Air cooler would be, there's nothing u can take away from installing an AIO that will help you build a custom loop.

 

So if u are thinking about getting into custom loops, dont even consider an AIO as being even remotely similar.

 

 

A 'beginner' custom loop i supose would be buying a 'kit' from EKWB. That will take out most of the decision making, leaving you to just build the system. After that ur next step for a future build would be to pick out the parts yourself.

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Hi, I want to know for a beginner of using water cooling but also wants a great performance. Which should I uses, a custom water loop or an AIO water cooling? I'm using the i7 8700k cpu and that is all I'm gonna water cooled for now.

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6 minutes ago, Sir_damian said:

Hi, I want to know for a beginner of using water cooling but also wants a great performance. Which should I uses, a custom water loop or an AIO water cooling? I'm using the i7 8700k cpu and that is all I'm gonna water cooled for now.

As a beginner, start with an 240/280MM AIO. Custom loops are challenging and can often leak your first time trying if you're a newbie. 

 

Buy one of those "custom AIO's" that are out there. Alphacool makes one, I think...


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Doing a custom loop is more difficult that an AIO or air cooler, most of the time. I honestly think that you should stick with an air cooler since it's silent and there are less points of failure.

 

The custom loop would take the most time and money compared to the AIO and air cooler. 


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Yes agreed. You should never use a custom water loop unless you know exactly what you're doing. Too much risk of leaks which can be fatal on a computer

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10 minutes ago, Sir_damian said:

Hi, I want to know for a beginner of using water cooling but also wants a great performance. Which should I uses, a custom water loop or an AIO water cooling?

I recommend just going with an air cooler. They're quiet, cheap, and reliable. AIO liquid coolers are usually loud, expensive (overpriced), and unreliable.


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38 minutes ago, Geography said:

AIO liquid coolers are usually loud

Huh?  That's a new one on me... my "cheap" AIO runs very cool and quiet. And others I have seen and used haven't been loud either.


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7 minutes ago, paddy-stone said:

Huh?  That's a new one on me... my "cheap" AIO runs very cool and quiet. And others I have seen and used haven't been loud either.

Open this link: https://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/8789/corsair-h115i-rgb-platinum-liquid-cpu-cooler-review/index6.html

- The second and third graph show that the NH-D15 is better than the H115i (which is a "good" AIO liquid cooler) in terms of cooling.

- The fourth, fifth, and sixth graph show that the NH-D15 is better than the H115i (when set to "Balanced") in terms of noise levels.

 

AIO liquid coolers are overrated and overpriced IMO. The only thing that's good about them is aesthetics (and even that's subjective).


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14 hours ago, Geography said:

Open this link: https://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/8789/corsair-h115i-rgb-platinum-liquid-cpu-cooler-review/index6.html

- The second and third graph show that the NH-D15 is better than the H115i (which is a "good" AIO liquid cooler) in terms of cooling.

- The fourth, fifth, and sixth graph show that the NH-D15 is better than the H115i (when set to "Balanced") in terms of noise levels.

 

AIO liquid coolers are overrated and overpriced IMO. The only thing that's good about them is aesthetics (and even that's subjective).

I don't need to look at those, thanks anyway... I have an NH-D15 that I don't use any more. Also subjective is the "loudness" of the cooler in some way. You have a right to your opinion about AIOs, I used to think the same was true until I actually tried a few of them.. I have a couple of CM ML 240 lite AIOs that I use on 2 of my systems, on my desktop which is running an OCed 1700 @3.9Ghz is barely audible most of the time and I sit approx 3 feet above it... even when it's audible it isn't loud by any means, now admittedly I have changed the fans to some corsair ML120s as the stock fans were a little rattle-ish, my other system which is/was a mining rig, had no problems with the stock fans at all, and was still barely audible.... and these are "cheap" AIOs that cost me around £43. Also my 1700 hits approx 55C max under high load.

Anyway, don't want this to decend into an argument, were both entitiled to our opinions... I'm just saying that maybe on the "loud" systems there might have been another reason for it, maybe the case wasn't sufficiently cooled, or something anyway.


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Given how many people post on here about leaking aio’s, going custom would be safer and provide better cooling, options and upgrade route. 

 

The 8700k deserves that much. 


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16 hours ago, Sir_damian said:

Hi, I want to know for a beginner of using water cooling but also wants a great performance. Which should I uses, a custom water loop or an AIO water cooling? I'm using the i7 8700k cpu and that is all I'm gonna water cooled for now.

There really is no 'beginner' option ..well there is kinda, but it only takes out some of the decision making.

 

AIO's are installed just as a Air cooler would be, there's nothing u can take away from installing an AIO that will help you build a custom loop.

 

So if u are thinking about getting into custom loops, dont even consider an AIO as being even remotely similar.

 

 

A 'beginner' custom loop i supose would be buying a 'kit' from EKWB. That will take out most of the decision making, leaving you to just build the system. After that ur next step for a future build would be to pick out the parts yourself.


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