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GH5 or Black Magic Pocket Cinema 4K?

BuckGup
By BuckGup
in Photography and Videography
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Already have a 7D Mark II and Mark I that do great for my photography needs. But they are slipping up on my video needs. The GH5 looks nice and also doubles as a stills camera but it's $1599 and only does 4K 30fps at 4:2:2 and to utilize it you need a SD Card cable of 400Mb/s and those are $300+ dollars a piece. Or the black magic pocket cinema which is $1299 and does true 4K 60fps raw and will record through USB type C so I can buy a Samsung T5 500Gb for $97. Which also means transporting footage to my PC will be much faster. I would need to buy a cage, external battery, T5, and 4/3s adapter which would put it basically at the same price as the GH5 +-$100 and I would still need a 4/3s adapter for the GH5. As I don't really want to drop $3000 in replacing my lenses. I mean for the same price the BMPCC shoots much better video, would last longer, cheaper and larger storage options, but the only concern is build quality and software. These are the areas blackmagic is known to be less than ideal on in the past. What do you guys think?

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BM Pocket Cinema 4k has great reviews, so i would go with that,

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13 minutes ago, Origami Cactus said:

BM Pocket Cinema 4k has great reviews, so i would go with that,

Yeah do you know about when you can actually buy it? It was suppose to come out september 5th but then it was delayed. Now I see a ton of Youtube videos on it and people have them but it says preorder on B&H and people are scalping them on eBay

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1 minute ago, BuckGup said:

Yeah do you know about when you can actually buy it? It was suppose to come out september 5th but then it was delayed. Now I see a ton of Youtube videos on it and people have them but it says preorder on B&H and people are scalping them on eBay

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https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/products/blackmagicpocketcinemacamera/howtobuy/

https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/products/blackmagicpocketcinemacamera

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15 hours ago, BuckGup said:

does 4K 30fps at 4:2:2 and to utilize it you need a SD Card cable of 400Mb/s and those are $300+ dollars

Don't confuse Mb/s with MB/s.

 

When it comes to bitrate on video, Mb/s is what is usually used, but on memory cards, MB/s is what usually is used.

 

400 Mb/s is 50 MB/s

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Btw, none of them have good AF if that's important to you.

 

If AF is important, maybe you should look in to Fuji X-T3?

It has 4k 30p 10bit 400 Mb/s and 4k 60p 10 bit 200 Mb/s internally. It's only 4:2:0 internally, but if you go through HDMI to capture card, it can do 4:2:2.

 

I think it's time limited tho.

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I'd go with the Blackmagic. It will be much better suited for video vs. the gh5, although I can't remember if it has IBIS vs the gh5. The thing is that the gh5 can be a much smaller more compact body if you wanna do a hybrid job it gets bulky, with cages, monitors etc. The gh5 will probably need a bit less kit vs the the BMPCC. 

 

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7 hours ago, Mihle said:

Don't confuse Mb/s with MB/s.

 

When it comes to bitrate on video, Mb/s is what is usually used, but on memory cards, MB/s is what usually is used.

 

400 Mb/s is 50 MB/s

Oh you are right, totally over looked that. Still the T5 has the same speeds as a CFAST card but 1/4 the price and makes transfer footage faster.

3 hours ago, cc143 said:

I'd go with the Blackmagic. It will be much better suited for video vs. the gh5, although I can't remember if it has IBIS vs the gh5. The thing is that the gh5 can be a much smaller more compact body if you wanna do a hybrid job it gets bulky, with cages, monitors etc. The gh5 will probably need a bit less kit vs the the BMPCC. 

 

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It looks like you already got this all sorted by definitely the BMPCC, its just more capable and a lot more versatile. If you know you're only going to be shooting video with it and nothing else then you can definitely build it out to fit just about any of your needs. Plus think of that RAW

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