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Don't worry about it. Generally you'd aim to keep within the on-card ram anyway for best performance. If you start using system ram it will have a performance impact, and on low ram systems it will also take it away from anything else using it and may further impact also.

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on what? a gpu?

 

buying a new one is the easiest option


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9 minutes ago, KeyzHostHD said:

Hi I Just Want Quick Help How Much Do You Think I Can Increase The Ram , And How ? , And What Are The Consequences

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You can't change the dedicated video memory, you'd have to buy a new card with more. You could change the amount of shared system memory, but it's pretty pointless. Once you run out of dedicated video memory and start using system memory, performance will be crippled anyway.

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12 minutes ago, Sakkura said:

You can't change the dedicated video memory, you'd have to buy a new card with more. You could change the amount of shared system memory, but it's pretty pointless. Once you run out of dedicated video memory and start using system memory, performance will be crippled anyway.

 

23 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

on what? a gpu?

 

buying a new one is the easiest option

but wouldnt setiing it to 50/50 increase performace ?

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you shouldn't change it... i would suggest you either buy a new gpu if you're not pleased with your performence, or just do nothing. 1 gigs or 10 gigs to the gpu, it won't be better


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You can't really increase a graphics card's VRAM, except by sharing normal RAM with it (like Windows has done here, now you have 5GB of VRAM which is definitely enough).

 


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1 minute ago, NunoLava1998 said:

You can't really increase a graphics card's VRAM, except by sharing normal RAM with it (like Windows has done here, now you have 5GB of VRAM which is definitely enough).

 

what are the consquences ? and how ? do i need to go into bios ?

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3 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

you shouldn't change it... i would suggest you either buy a new gpu if you're not pleased with your performence, or just do nothing. 1 gigs or 10 gigs to the gpu, it won't be better

i am saving up for a extreme build , but in the mean time i want to enjoy some games

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The video card has a fixed amount of memory on it. That memory is super fast.

 

The video card (through the driver) can also "borrow" a part of the computer ram to increase the total amount of memory but this kind of memory is several times slower... it's like the difference between a classic hard drive and a SSD. Whenever a game needs something that's not in the card's memory, it can quickly copy it from the ram into the video card and take something from the video card and move it into ram to make room for something else.

Basically, it swaps data as needed.

In most games, there's no benefit to increasing the amount of regular RAM to give the video card more memory, because if you have graphical settings set so high to make the game use all the video card memory on the card, the amount of data transferred from ram to video card and back would slow down the video card so much that it won't matter.

 

Basically, you want to change the game's video settings to lower the actual amount of memory used by the video game, and keep it as close as possible to the video card memory on the video card.

You have to think of that extra memory as something there to prevent games from crashing when they use all the memory available on the video card itself, you don't want to treat that memory as extra memory for the video card.

 

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If you need a cheap new GPU, you can buy this:

https://www.amazon.com/Sapphire-Radeon-GDDR5-DVI-D-Graphics/dp/B07MCDNQX2/ref=sr_1_4?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1550681836&sr=1-4&keywords=rx+570

It is a 99$ RX 570 4GB. It has about the same performance as a GTX 1060 6GB.

With VAT/shipping charges/etc., in Europe it costs roughly 129€ with priority 2-4 day shipping.

It has a TDP of 180W, which is quite high for a graphics card. Check with your power supply to see if you can make room for the graphics card.

You will need a DVI-D Dual Link cable (or converter if you don't have DVI-D Dual Link input on your monitor, you can buy a DVI-D Dual Link to HDMI converter for 7$ or 10€ extra).

There is only one output on the graphics card, so running multiple monitors will be harder than normal.

 

Please specify your country and power supply model, and I can give you an estimated price plus if your PSU needs to be upgraded or not.


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i am saving up for a extreme build , but in the mean time i want to enjoy some games

then just don't touch it

 

you won't see anything better with it, maybe even worse


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1 minute ago, KeyzHostHD said:

what are the consquences ? and how ? do i need to go into bios ?

You do not need to go into BIOS. However I wouldn't recommend adding shared RAM because it's pretty much useless and doesn't provide a performance increase compared to just buying a card with more VRAM.


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Don't worry about it. Generally you'd aim to keep within the on-card ram anyway for best performance. If you start using system ram it will have a performance impact, and on low ram systems it will also take it away from anything else using it and may further impact also.


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6 minutes ago, porina said:

Don't worry about it. Generally you'd aim to keep within the on-card ram anyway for best performance. If you start using system ram it will have a performance impact, and on low ram systems it will also take it away from anything else using it and may further impact also.

 

6 minutes ago, NunoLava1998 said:

You do not need to go into BIOS. However I wouldn't recommend adding shared RAM because it's pretty much useless and doesn't provide a performance increase compared to just buying a card with more VRAM.

 

7 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

then just don't touch it

 

you won't see anything better with it, maybe even worse

 

7 minutes ago, NunoLava1998 said:

If you need a cheap new GPU, you can buy this:

https://www.amazon.com/Sapphire-Radeon-GDDR5-DVI-D-Graphics/dp/B07MCDNQX2/ref=sr_1_4?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1550681836&sr=1-4&keywords=rx+570

It is a 99$ RX 570 4GB. It has about the same performance as a GTX 1060 6GB.

With VAT/shipping charges/etc., in Europe it costs roughly 129€ with priority 2-4 day shipping.

It has a TDP of 180W, which is quite high for a graphics card. Check with your power supply to see if you can make room for the graphics card.

You will need a DVI-D Dual Link cable (or converter if you don't have DVI-D Dual Link input on your monitor, you can buy a DVI-D Dual Link to HDMI converter for 7$ or 10€ extra).

There is only one output on the graphics card, so running multiple monitors will be harder than normal.

 

Please specify your country and power supply model, and I can give you an estimated price plus if your PSU needs to be upgraded or not.

 

7 minutes ago, mariushm said:

The video card has a fixed amount of memory on it. That memory is super fast.

 

The video card (through the driver) can also "borrow" a part of the computer ram to increase the total amount of memory but this kind of memory is several times slower... it's like the difference between a classic hard drive and a SSD. Whenever a game needs something that's not in the card's memory, it can quickly copy it from the ram into the video card and take something from the video card and move it into ram to make room for something else.

Basically, it swaps data as needed.

In most games, there's no benefit to increasing the amount of regular RAM to give the video card more memory, because if you have graphical settings set so high to make the game use all the video card memory on the card, the amount of data transferred from ram to video card and back would slow down the video card so much that it won't matter.

 

Basically, you want to change the game's video settings to lower the actual amount of memory used by the video game, and keep it as close as possible to the video card memory on the video card.

You have to think of that extra memory as something there to prevent games from crashing when they use all the memory available on the video card itself, you don't want to treat that memory as extra memory for the video card.

 

 

11 minutes ago, NunoLava1998 said:

You can't really increase a graphics card's VRAM, except by sharing normal RAM with it (like Windows has done here, now you have 5GB of VRAM which is definitely enough).

 

 

12 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

you shouldn't change it... i would suggest you either buy a new gpu if you're not pleased with your performence, or just do nothing. 1 gigs or 10 gigs to the gpu, it won't be better

 

26 minutes ago, Sakkura said:

You can't change the dedicated video memory, you'd have to buy a new card with more. You could change the amount of shared system memory, but it's pretty pointless. Once you run out of dedicated video memory and start using system memory, performance will be crippled anyway.

ok guys you've shown me i was a idiot for trying to do this so i've learnt my lesson , but is there any way to set a specific normal ram usage for different hardisk's
example : disk 1 - 1gb           disk 2 - 5gb

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ok guys you've shown me i was a idiot for trying to do this so i've learnt my lesson , but is there any way to set a specific normal ram usage for different hardisk's
example : disk 1 - 1gb           disk 2 - 5gb

Why?

If you want games to use more RAM, not only will that configuration cause your OS to be extremely slow, not only will apps struggle a lot, but it's also pretty much impossible.

 


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1 minute ago, KeyzHostHD said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

ok guys you've shown me i was a idiot for trying to do this so i've learnt my lesson , but is there any way to set a specific normal ram usage for different hardisk's
example : disk 1 - 1gb           disk 2 - 5gb

not really... it's a shared thing in the os


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2 minutes ago, NunoLava1998 said:

Why?

If you want games to use more RAM, not only will that configuration cause your OS to be extremely slow, not only will apps struggle a lot, but it's also pretty much impossible.

 

i just want the disk where i have games, editing software , "Google" to have more reserved ram than other disks , so this is not usefull ?

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i just want the disk where i have games, editing software , "Google" to have more reserved ram than other disks , so this is not usefull ?

it will just be there for the whole system, it doesn't matter if you're on drive 1, 2 or 50


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1 minute ago, LukeSavenije said:

it will just be there for the whole system, it doesn't matter if you're on drive 1, 2 or 50

ahhh ok , then i guess this thread can be closed

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ahhh ok , then i guess this thread can be closed

you don't have to lock it or everything, but there's a solve button, select the comment that helped you the most and it will be marked as solved


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