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Schools doing field trips to the...... Apple Store?!

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I thought this was about their education sessions, but this really does sound a bit ridiculous.

 

Then again, I‘d like to know what exactly they‘re officially doing in the scope of these field trips. I mean, this has to have been approved by someone, so I‘m assuming it would at the very least sound somewhat attractive on paper. 

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While I can't speak to those specific "field trips", it was common back when I was working with Apple and their stores in the US to have such things when school classes would come in for "Day of Code" and similar, to learn how to do basic programming skills, or to get taught by the Creative for things like photo or video editing, or proper photography skills, often with video/photos brought in from the school and other projects, to be used to make a school project while there.  That's hardly nefarious, though it is natural for a child to then be interested in getting what they used to learn on/with if it was a good experience.

 

Those trips in the US were most commonly taken by the underprivileged school districts in the city areas I worked with, which would be much less likely to have much of their own equipment/software to allow every kid to work on a system at the same time, and was one of the only ways they had a good shot at learning any of those skills while in school.

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4 hours ago, GoodBytes said:

"Since your child knows that all the other students are going, it's hard to say no,"

Not really, all you gotta do is be a parent and take a simple decision, kids will be kids but you can't let them control you, modern societies are too permissive with kids that's why there are so many little spoiled fucks going around thinking they own everything, you can see this at stores, street, homes whose adults lack education above high school, etc

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Once people get into the apple ecosystem, its designed in a way to make is as difficult and hard as possible to leave it, you teach a kid that the best thing you can buy is an iphone and an Ipad, they will never think or look at anything else. At that age kids need to understand and appreciate the market as a whole, and the understanding of hardware/software that comes from figuring things out yourself is never there when everything given to you on a plate.

 

Its clear what the aim is, get kids into the apple ecosystem at a young age, and have customers for life that will never think to look for anything else.

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5 hours ago, PopsicleHustler said:

This is ridiculous. Advertising overpriced crap to kids. Whats next? 

It isn't crap.  It is overpriced, though.

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Really, people seem to be blaming Apple, but who is really to blame here is the school / the teachers organizing these "field trips".


The school should have some principles and not allow their students to be subjected to advertising. If they want to learn about computers, take them on a field trip to the computer science dept of the nearest college/ university or something. Not this.

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This is just. WEIRD

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In my day we went to the abattoir and the local nature reserve to understand the importance of balancing nature with modern living needs.  It's no wonder the world is heading down an entitlement skewed path.  

Grammar and spelling is not indicative of intelligence/knowledge.  Not having the same opinion does not always mean lack of understanding.  

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1 hour ago, NineEyeRon said:

Image result for box factory

That is actually better, as you actually learn how boxes are made. A field trip to a big company facility is fine (assuming they teach how product are made, the engineering aspects of it, teach how the R&D is made, prototyping, etc. like what you see from these "How it's made" videos, but more in-depth or more in-depth factory tours that some YouTubers gets to go). That is interesting.

 

Going at a STORE, where all you have are sales people, essentially. Where the students basically does a small workshop just to say it is educational, and pushed to buy their products (and who knows what crap is being said to the kids), is another problem. Having kids returning home and instead of talking about technology or anything on the many fields and facets of engineering, instead talk about why they don't have iPads or iMacs at home, and how they should get one... is a huge difference.

 

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1 hour ago, mr moose said:

In my day we went to the abattoir and the local nature reserve to understand the importance of balancing nature with modern living needs.  It's no wonder the world is heading down an entitlement skewed path.  

Balance? That reeks of personal responsibility, ergo FACISM REEEEEE.

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1 hour ago, maartendc said:

Really, people seem to be blaming Apple, but who is really to blame here is the school / the teachers organizing these "field trips".


The school should have some principles and not allow their students to be subjected to advertising. If they want to learn about computers, take them on a field trip to the computer science dept of the nearest college/ university or something. Not this.

The parents are feed the same crap that the school got feed too from Apple in planning trip. It is easy to convince people that don't know much.

So you as a parent have the choice. Either you say No, and your 10 year old kid will either, at your choice, stay at home, meaning you'll need to get a baby sitter as both parents (usually) goes to work, or they are stuck alone in some classroom or library bored to death.

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1 minute ago, Rune said:

I think a trip to stores like Rossmann's would be more...you know....educational.

Well, that is a repair shop. It falls under factories, hospitals, clinics, and so on, which is interesting.

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If this happened in the US Id head straight to my states Capital building.  They would not think to use my State resources that I and my Countrymen provide.  I don't care if Apple pays for it.  This is exactly what is sounds like.  Advertising through our children.  

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Heard about this during my morning commute... Insane.

I hope the School boards get hit hard for this.

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Field Trips to the Apple store, what is this a remedial class destined to end up Apple Geniuses! When I was a kid we went to the Zoo, the aquarium, a local theater.... I'm starting to think I was a child at the perfect time before everything went crazy.

 

 

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I thought Apple didn't want themselves to be seen as scumbags...

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This would never fly in western Canada. The province of Quebec sure is "special"...

What does windows 10 and ET have in common?

 

They are both constantly trying to phone home.

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My brother's school forced him to use only macbooks.

 

It sucks.

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Wow, this thread has really formed a strong opinion on this topic, I guess I'll throw my response into the mix ...

 

Personally, I don't think this is newsworthy at all, the usual creating drama from something nothing type of thing. The article definitely downplays the educational aspect of the 'field trip' in favour of "Apple is exploiting the vulnerability and immaturity of children for their own economic benefit". Maybe they really are trying to indoctrinate our children, but maybe, just maybe, there is also some educational benefit to this:

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In order to kill two birds with one stone, the teacher enrolled her students in workshops offered free in English by Apple in order to master the features of the tablet that are used in class, such as a word processor, Team, Notebook applications, etc.

 

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why go to a boring church and learn about it's architecture, historical period, personalities involved in it's construction and art when you can go check the new iPad Pro and how cool artists use them

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I'd under if the children were taught about the history of Apples products. How they began and what made them who they are today, or maybe teach them how the products are made. Perhaps even show them the room where repairs are done.

 

But purely to brainwash the children into purchasing Apple products is messed up. 

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