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Picking the right Blower Card

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Posted · Original PosterOP

Hey all!

 

I am looking at how much it might cost to move my rig up to 1440p from 1080p. I play slow visual games like Skyrim, Cities Skylines and Civ etc as well as Rocket League and CSGO.

 

I built a lovely rig based around an i5 8600 for 1080p gaming in a Fractal Nano S case. Of course being ITX with an ATX powersupply I have one of my video card fans directly above the PSU with little space.

 

From my research I would consider my situation one that may benefit from a blower card as I have only one exhaust fan. The GPU is fed fresh cool air from a 140mm fan at the front with very little obstruction so a blower cooler would pick up this air nicely and not suck in warm air in the space above the PSU as my card does now. Having a little extra exhaust would still retain positive pressure but clear a little extra heat out the case. I have space to throw in an extra intake fan if needed but I doubt I would.

 

I have 550w to play with and calcs like PC part picker show me pulling around 320w, I have allowed my i5 8600 to draw up to 90w as my cooler can handle 120 so I would say 350W draw max. 

 

The calcs also show my prospective 1440p card, the GTX 1070ti to draw a little less vs my Sapphire Pulse RX580.

 

I am just working out budgets as I need to select a decent monitor too but that’s for another time, probably looking at 27” VA or  IPS as I won’t mind a little slower response, despite having TN panels for 10 years.

 

Now I just need advice on buying blower style cards, has anyone got experience with them and did they make a difference vs open coolers in situations like mine?

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Loud AF , I had a rx 480 blower and dude , 2000-3000 rpm and that sounds like a jet engine. I rather 1080p 24' 240hz than 1440p 24' 144hz just saying, 27' 1440p is fine.


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Posted · Original PosterOP
Just now, Blademaster91 said:

The 10 series blower cards aren't that loud, you usually won't get the same boost clocks as a well cooled open air card but a blower cooler seems more optimal for an ITX case.

I am no too worried about boost clocks.

 

I play pretty old games like Skyrim and avoid AAA titles.

 

I am not likely to buy a new game in 2019/20 outside of FM20 as I have plently of library games to play that are all 2018 and earlier. Let’s just call that old age and nostalgia setting in...

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9 minutes ago, J.b091 said:

Don't get blower card. They suck.

They suck and blow.


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Posted · Original PosterOP
28 minutes ago, J.b091 said:

Don't get blower card. They suck.

 

18 minutes ago, Pasi123 said:

They suck and blow.

 

I already understand their limitations but for my build there may be advantages. I am querying to see if this has been the case for people who have gone down this route for similar reasons. I an also looking for advice from those people to ensure I pick the right cooler as I have little experience. I have used blowers in the past but long before I understood their impact as we are talking 2006-2012 when all i had was laptops, Dells and Prebuilt PCs.

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Prefer the better card, so the 1070ti would be better. People that never had a open air card with limited space shouldn’t talk about blower being loud. 

Wouldn’t be concerned about clock speeds if the cards still on air. Still gonna drop a lot. 


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Posted · Original PosterOP
3 minutes ago, Mick Naughty said:

Still gonna drop a lot. 

Can you please clarify, is that dropping temps in my case when moving from my open design RX580 to a blower 1070ti?

 

Currently MoBo temp is low 40s and core temps are mid 30 at idle. Benchmark load temps ramp into the low 50s so 10C higher and cores up to 65-69. Realworld load is slightly lower.

 

Going to reseat my cooler soon as the thermal paste I used was about 4 years old, I think that has limited the cooling capacity a touch. This will have no real world impact however as I am still moving the same amount of air in and out of the case.

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Clock speeds. Blower cards don’t effect hardware temp. That’s what open air cards do. And it’s horrible it’s sff builds. 


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Posted · Original PosterOP
4 minutes ago, Mick Naughty said:

Clock speeds. Blower cards don’t effect hardware temp. That’s what open air cards do. And it’s horrible it’s sff builds. 

Not even by moving the air out the case rather than just pumping it into the case for a single 120mm fan and positive pressure to exhaust? That’s my hope, just seeing if anyone has actually found that to be the case.

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5 minutes ago, NineEyeRon said:

Not even by moving the air out the case rather than just pumping it into the case for a single 120mm fan and positive pressure to exhaust? That’s my hope, just seeing if anyone has actually found that to be the case.

Are you still talking about a blower or open air? 


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Posted · Original PosterOP
2 minutes ago, Mick Naughty said:

Are you still talking about a blower or open air? 

Yes, open air coolers just dump a majority of their air back into the case. 

 

Blower style appears to take air from inside the case and expel it out of the case at the rear, thus contributing additional volume to what is currently expelled from the case, only a small amount however.

 

Really just looking for those who have tried this to share their experiences and any helpful hints on purchases.

 

Pretty much just looking to not dip under 100 for CSGO and keep games like Skyrim above 50. Not playing any games post Skyrim Remastered release.

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Since you have space for exhaust fan...

Isn't AIO on the card an option? 


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5 minutes ago, NineEyeRon said:

Yes, open air coolers just dump a majority of their air back into the case. 

 

Blower style appears to take air from inside the case and expel it out of the case at the rear, thus contributing additional volume to what is currently expelled from the case, only a small amount however.

 

Really just looking for those who have tried this to share their experiences and any helpful hints on purchases.

 

Pretty much just looking to not dip under 100 for CSGO and keep games like Skyrim above 50. Not playing any games post Skyrim Remastered release.

Already done it countless times. Why don’t you just get both. You can get a blower for $60 bucks. If you don’t care about the temps of everthings, just get the open air. 

 

Cant say what the FPS will be. Looking at benchmarks will tell you that. Not gpu temp alone. 


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Posted · Original PosterOP
2 minutes ago, Quadriplegic said:

Since you have space for exhaust fan...

Isn't AIO on the card an option? 

Yes, yes it is.

 

I will be looking into both options but cost may make this unlikely.

 

Its all about striking the right balance in the end. I will consider purchasing a blower card and open air but no point getting a cheap one as that’s not a fair test. I still need the grunt of a 1070ti, just not the extra gained by OCing or high factory clocks.

 

As long as it isn’t throttling back I will be happy. My open air design doesn’t OC but  it’s a crappy card for OCing as it was cheap. Sounds like I need to get the blower and see if it meets my needs, if not return somehow and get an open air one...

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