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Good day everyone. My first time to post here please bear with me.

 

I want to ask this for myself and also for my "friend" I just had a debate with. 

 

Is it possible to have gpu bottleneck and cpu bottleneck to happen at the same time? 

 

Replies will be much appreaciated.

 

Please feel free to correct me if I have done something wrong.

 

Thank you!

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14 minutes ago, jajejijuju said:

Is it possible to have gpu bottleneck and cpu bottleneck to happen at the same time?

No. You can have both appear in a single game, for example, but not at the exact same time.

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At the same time? it will be extremely rare because games don't load the CPU and GPU linearly all the time.

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Technically a bottleneck, as the PC is the main constrictor of the gaming experience, but it's not a very sensible term to use in this case, because if the CPU is too weak in general as opposed to too weak for the graphics card, and the graphics card is also too weak in general, and both are at 100% but the gaming experience still sucks, the whole PC is just one big bottleneck, but parts aren't necessarily a bottleneck on one another, like ram to CPU or CPU to GPU.

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High refresh lower resolution gaming could cause a bottleneck in both parts at different times

 

Modern games seems the worst bottleneck is the software or lack thereof finished software

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As I understand the term bottle neck between the GPU and  CPU. A bottle neck is one component limiting the others performance, as in one part maxed out in performance while the other still has room to run faster but can't.  If both components  max out at the same time there is no bottle neck just 2 maxed out components. 

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His original argument was. 

 

He asked me to try to play Battlefield 1 on a core 2 duo and gt 210 pair and check if i will not experience gpu and cpu bottleneck at the same time. I replied that the setup is just not good enough for the game.

 

Am I the one whos right or him?

 

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2 minutes ago, jajejijuju said:

His original argument was. 

 

He asked me to try to play Battlefield 1 on a core 2 duo and gt 210 pair and check if i will not experience gpu and cpu bottleneck at the same time. I replied that the setup is just not good enough for the game.

 

Am I the one whos right or him?

 

Nobody wins when trying to play that game on that hardware LOL

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1 minute ago, jajejijuju said:

He asked me to try to play Battlefield 1 on a core 2 duo and gt 210 pair and check if i will not experience gpu and cpu bottleneck at the same time. I replied that the setup is just not good enough for the game.

A bottleneck would be a situation where one is holding the other component's performance back, but if neither is holding the other back, then obviously there isn't a bottleneck, either.

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1 minute ago, Plutosaurus said:

Nobody wins when trying to play that game on that hardware LOL

that was his stand. not mine. and im trying to enlighten him.

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1 minute ago, WereCatf said:

A bottleneck would be a situation where one is holding the other component's performance back, but if neither is holding the other back, then obviously there isn't a bottleneck, either.

thats what i said sir. thank you. will show him this thread later.

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17 minutes ago, jajejijuju said:

thats what i said sir. thank you. will show him this thread later.

There's always going to be a bottleneck somewhere.

 

 

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5 hours ago, Plutosaurus said:

There's always going to be a bottleneck somewhere.

 

 

yes. there will always be atleast a weak bottleneck between a cpu and gpu. but not both can bottleneck each other at the same time right? 

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Just now, jajejijuju said:

yes. there will always be atleast a weak bottleneck between a cpu and gpu. but not both can bottleneck each other at the same time right? 

If they both sucked at exactly the same rate the they would in fact both be bottlenecking your gaming experience

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90% cpu util, 90% gpu util. is there a gpu or cpu bottleneck or both? thats what he is insisting. 

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One creates another.

Thats all.

Both, but one before another.

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2 minutes ago, SkilledRebuilds said:

One creates another.

Thats all.

Both, but one before another.

yes thank you. not at the exact same time. one before another.

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Silly but lol.

 

A Game is like hey you,.. GPU, take it all.. I dare you..

 

The CPU police force are usually on point and allow a reasonable set of tasks to be done..

 

However once the majority of the CPU force is getting tapped with work, efficiency suffers,.. And some GPU tasks gets queued for few milliseconds longer..

 

With thousands of Transactions happening at any given time.. A CPU force overloaded to 80-90% may indeed cause the GPU queue of tasks to suffer being fed time to time.

 

Of sorts.

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