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Hey everyone! I tried looking for help on the buildapc subreddit and their discord but didn't get any help there so im coming here! Recently been playing VR games and Apex Legends and id love to boost my performance up a lot buy upgrading the PC i have currently. My goal for this PC though is definitely games high/max settings 1080P @ 120HZ, i have peripherals and all that good stuff so that inst a problem. Gaming, VR Gaming and possibly streaming as well. RGB would be neat if the case has a window, the case i currently doesnt have one so i didnt even think about RGB. if overclocking the CPU isnt any hassle id love to really get as much performance out of what im buying as possible.

 

 

 

 

 

-Current Specs-

I7-4770k cpu

evga gtx 970

Seasonic 660w platinum psu

16g DDR3 ram @ 1600MHz

120g ssd

2 TB hard drive.

air cooled.

and really thats about it, the cpu isnt overclocked, the MoBo is one of the cheapest ASRock mobos i could find when i built it and that was about 5 years ago or so. I put together two lists that i think are what i want to be shooting for.

 

 

I feel like thats a solid build around, someone recommended that CPU cooler for me but I've never heard of that brand before so maybe they'res a better option. main points for that one would be 2060 and a solid MoBO (I think)

The next build sacrifices some stuff to get a 2070,

 

 

 

I guess all around is are these builds good? are the 2070/2060 good to be buying them right now? i know it'll be an upgrade from my 970, and i can sell the parts im not using right now and get the total cost expended down some too, what are your thoughts?

 

 

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for 1080p@120, anything above 1070ti (2060) should be good. btw.. that kingston ssd is trash. its dram-less and has TERRIBLE tbw rating. please buy something like the mx500. 

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You want a 9700k at least for the 8 cores. You'll also want a new PSU and SSD if both are 5 years old. 

 

If you're on 1080p, get a 2060, the upgrade to 2070 isn't worth the cost.

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The 2060 is typically a better value, unless you can find a 2070 on sale somewhere. The i5-9600k is quite good, almost identical in stock performance to the i7-8700k. The G.Skill Aegis 3000MHz is quite good as well. MSI's Z390 boards are good, and they do have a decent cheap model (the A Pro). Seasonic has some good PSUs, I've been using them in my builds with great results.

 

As for the CPU cooler, I would personally go air; air cooling is more reliable and won't leak everywhere. AIOs have gotten much better over the years, but there are still risks involved. I've heard good things about Deepcool, but I've never used their products before. If you want my recommendation, get a Noctua NH-U12S or a Noctua NH-D15. The U12S is cheaper, and still very good; the NH-d15 is more expensive, but is among the best CPU air coolers on the market (just check your case to make sure it can fit, its a big boi).

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20 minutes ago, Saksham said:

for 1080p@120, anything above 1070ti (2060) should be good. btw.. that kingston ssd is trash. its dram-less and has TERRIBLE tbw rating. please buy something like the mx500. 

gotcha that makes sense, i bought ssd a while back cause it was on a super good sale on amazon, didn't really look into ratings and whatnot, ill see if i can fit a better one into the list

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21 minutes ago, Taf the Ghost said:

You want a 9700k at least for the 8 cores. You'll also want a new PSU and SSD if both are 5 years old. 

 

If you're on 1080p, get a 2060, the upgrade to 2070 isn't worth the cost.

I thought the performance between the 9700k and the 9600k isnt that different in games? im not doing any workloads at all on my computer and if i could overclock the I5 that would save some money there.

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21 minutes ago, Eastman51 said:

As for the CPU cooler, I would personally go air; air cooling is more reliable and won't leak everywhere. AIOs have gotten much better over the years, but there are still risks involved. I've heard good things about Deepcool, but I've never used their products before. If you want my recommendation, get a Noctua NH-U12S or a Noctua NH-D15. The U12S is cheaper, and still very good; the NH-d15 is more expensive, but is among the best CPU air coolers on the market (just check your case to make sure it can fit, its a big boi).

That makes sense, i had overclocking in mind so i looked at the radiators right away basically, with the air coolers can you still overclock a decent amount with them?

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Just now, Updater said:

That makes sense, i had overclocking in mind so i looked at the radiators right away basically, with the air coolers can you still overclock a decent amount with them?

The U12S should have a little bit of headroom, but the NH-D15 will have quite a bit of headroom. 

I run the NH-D15 on my R5 2660x (no OC, btw), which is a 95W TDP chip, and it stays below 60C even at full load. I'm sure the 9600k would be able to OC quite well on it seeing as I would have tons of room myself; and that's not even considering that the 9th gen Intel chips are soldered and have better thermals than 8th gen and below.

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*ITX Box* - https://pcpartpicker.com/list/r36s6R (Windows 10 Education)

Dell Dimension XPS B800 - Pentium 3 800Mhz, RDRAM

In progress projects:

*Skylake Tower* - Pentium G4400, Asus H110

*Trash Can* - AMD A4-6300

*GPU Test Bench*

*Pfsense router* - Pentium G3220, Asrock H97m Pro A4, 4GB DDR3

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-9700K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($418.89 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master - MasterLiquid ML240L RGB 66.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($68.71 @ Walmart) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte - Z390 UD ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($124.40 @ Amazon) 
Memory: Crucial - Ballistix Sport LT 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($94.99 @ Newegg Business) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB XC BLACK GAMING Video Card  ($349.99 @ B&H) 
Case: Corsair - SPEC-DELTA RGB ATX Mid Tower Case  ($79.99 @ Corsair) 
Total: $1136.97
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-02-15 14:37 EST-0500

I would go with this and yes i know that RTX 2060 is extremely budget but it's an RTX 2060 sooo it does not get hot at all it will stay pretty cool and do a good job as is 

 

The Motherboard has the best VRM for the money than other budget Z390 boards

Memory is gray finish wich suits The Motherboard

The case is actually a case i currently own and very happy with 

 

 

 

 
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9 minutes ago, Redicat said:

I'd go with the 9600k instead, its much cheaper and is just as good in games. Its barely slower than the 8700k, which is barely slower than the 9700k; unless you actually need the cores, the 9600k is a much better choice

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Compaq Presario 5000 - Pentium 4 1.7Ghz, 1.7GB SDR, PowerColor Radeon 9600 Pro (Windows XP x86 Pro)
Compaq Presario 8772 - Pentium MMX 200Mhz, 48MB PC66, 6GB Quantum HDD, "8GB" HP SATA SSD adapted to IDE (Windows 98 SE)

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Dell Dimension XPS B800 - Pentium 3 800Mhz, RDRAM

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2 minutes ago, Eastman51 said:

I'd go with the 9600k instead, its much cheaper and is just as good in games. Its barely slower than the 8700k, which is barely slower than the 9700k; unless you actually need the cores, the 9600k is a much better choice

How about this then? 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-9600K 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($259.99 @ B&H) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master - MasterLiquid ML240L RGB 66.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($68.71 @ Walmart) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte - Z390 UD ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($128.09 @ Amazon) 
Memory: Crucial - Ballistix Sport LT 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($94.99 @ Newegg Business) 
Storage: HP - EX920 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($149.99 @ Newegg) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB XC BLACK GAMING Video Card  ($349.99 @ B&H) 
Case: Corsair - SPEC-DELTA RGB ATX Mid Tower Case  ($79.99 @ Corsair) 
Total: $1131.75
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-02-15 14:59 EST-0500

 

 
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42 minutes ago, Redicat said:

How about this then? 
Storage: HP - EX920 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($149.99 @ Newegg) 

Much better value, I think. 

I would recommend the 1TB Western Digital Blue SSD instead since its just a little bit cheaper, but it wouldn't matter

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Dell Dimension XPS B800 - Pentium 3 800Mhz, RDRAM

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*Skylake Tower* - Pentium G4400, Asus H110

*Trash Can* - AMD A4-6300

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2 minutes ago, Eastman51 said:

Much better value, I think. 

I would recommend the 1TB Western Digital Blue SSD instead since its just a little bit cheaper, but it wouldn't matter

The Blue SSD doesn't have Mvme support

 

 
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Ive read to many horror stories about Deepcool AIOs to ever chance one.

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7 minutes ago, Tristerin said:

Ive read to many horror stories about Deepcool AIOs to ever chance one.

I haven't heard of them ever, its just what someone recommended me so i can definitely switch it out for something more known or better.

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12 minutes ago, Redicat said:

The Blue SSD doesn't have Mvme support

In boot times, normal usage, and game loading a SATA SSD is just as fast as an NVMe one. Unless you need a high speed scratch disk for photo/video editing and/or you make large data transfers on the daily, you don't need NVMe.

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Dell Dimension XPS B800 - Pentium 3 800Mhz, RDRAM

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*Trash Can* - AMD A4-6300

*GPU Test Bench*

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4 minutes ago, Updater said:

I haven't heard of them ever, its just what someone recommended me so i can definitely switch it out for something more known or better.

Asetek is a trustworthy OEM:

 

https://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/2122-who-actually-makes-liquid-coolers-oems 

 

I have a Asetek (Corsair H100i GTX) and a Cooler Master AIO - both work great

 

EDIT - I should say the horror stories Ive read about are their AIO's that come with their cases preinstalled.  If its the same AIO that they sell separate as well then yes I would avoid them.  TBH I personally would buy either Corsair, Cooler Master, NZXT - imho the brand image alone makes them have to have good QC of what they sell.

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4 minutes ago, Eastman51 said:

In boot times, normal usage, and game loading a SATA SSD is just as fast as an NVMe one. Unless you need a high speed scratch disk for photo/video editing and/or you make large data transfers on the daily, you don't need NVMe.

it's not that much more expensive

 

 
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22 minutes ago, Redicat said:

it's not that much more expensive

money is money, if you don't need something there's not much use in paying extra for it; especially if you're on a budget and/or are trying to get the best bang for your buck/get the best value.

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Compaq Presario 8772 - Pentium MMX 200Mhz, 48MB PC66, 6GB Quantum HDD, "8GB" HP SATA SSD adapted to IDE (Windows 98 SE)

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Dell Dimension XPS B800 - Pentium 3 800Mhz, RDRAM

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*Trash Can* - AMD A4-6300

*GPU Test Bench*

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