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RTX 2060 vs 1080 which ones better for 4K????

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Posted · Original PosterOP

Hey guys Ive been wanting to buy a decent card for a while now to upgrade from my 970. However I didnt really feel anything would be worth the upgrade until now. So i have the budget for either a brand new 2060 or a used 1080 which is about the same price as a 2060. Is 6GB Vram enough? most of the benchmarks I've seen the 2060 is almost on par with a 1080 its just that maybe the VRAM is at full load. SO UM. what do u guys think ? is the 2060s 6GB GDDR6 vram a match for the 8GB GDDR5x? manufacturer brand name suggestions would be appreciated as well.

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what on 4K?

 

but I'd rather bet on DLSS than a used card


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The best thing to do is reading the clock speed that doesnt end in a pair of zeros. Software voltage readings are wrong if your motherboard's not a high end model

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Neither are good for 4k.

For 4k is 2070 and above.


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Posted · Original PosterOP
8 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

what on 4K?

 

but I'd rather bet on DLSS than a used card

would 6 gigs of vram be enough in general though?

 

2 minutes ago, Constantin said:

Neither are good for 4k.

For 4k is 2070 and above.

ok lets say 1440p. I am deciding whether to get the xbox one x or a new graphics card homie

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1 minute ago, AwayComet108 said:

would 6 gigs of vram be enough in general though?

 

ok lets say 1440p. I am deciding whether to get the xbox one x or a new graphics card homie

1440p is playable with a 2060.


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Just now, AwayComet108 said:

would 6 gigs of vram be enough in general though?

forget new triple A games, then it's alright. It;s limited by compute power at that point as well, so not like 1080 will do any better.


Studying abroad, ditched the crappy laptop for a do-all laptop double. Dried factory CPU paste, long memory timings, cooler cools the inductors but not the mosfets and an inch of unused internal space on both left and right

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV system agent undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (1696MHz 0.812V ~ 1860MHz 0.95V) RAM: 12GB DDR4-2666 19-19-19-43 2T Storage: 128GB Toshiba NVMe SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) Monitor: 1080p 120Hz IPS G-sync

 

The best thing to do is reading the clock speed that doesnt end in a pair of zeros. Software voltage readings are wrong if your motherboard's not a high end model

CPU: i7-2600K 4493MHz (multiplier: 43x) 1.35V (software) --> 1.4V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 104.5MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 10-11-11-30 2T 2133MHz, custom: 10-11-10-30 1T 2229MHz) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (OC'd 150Hz) TN Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Results: Cinebench R15 Single thread:159 Multi-thread: 770 (thx Meltdown Spectre patch) Super Pi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.11s 1M: 8.4s 32M: 7m 45.9s

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3 minutes ago, AwayComet108 said:

ok lets say 1440p. I am deciding whether to get the xbox one x or a new graphics card homie

What are the other specs of your Pc? 

 

7 minutes ago, Constantin said:

Neither are good for 4k.

For 4k is 2070 and above.

I'm using a 1080 for 4k and I strongly disagree. Ofc I'm not always on max settings but things like AA are almost useless at 4k anyways, depending on screen size. 


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Posted · Original PosterOP
8 minutes ago, 191x7 said:

The RTX 2060 is fine for 1440p. It lacks some VRAM for 4K.

so you'd recommend the 1080?

 

9 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

forget new triple A games, then it's alright. It;s limited by compute power at that point as well, so not like 1080 will do any better.

Are both better than the Xbox GPU?

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If you want 4k you should really get a 2080 or better.

 

2070 is barely better than the 2060, only saving grace is the extra VRAM buffer.

 

if you want 1440p, 2060 or Vega 56/64 are good contenders. RTX 2070 makes no sense at all IMO and you're better spending less on the before mentioned or go up to the 2080.


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7 minutes ago, AwayComet108 said:

Are both better than the Xbox GPU?

Xbox, puff. This gen of Xbox at least is worse. It sacrifices quality and runs 30fps


Studying abroad, ditched the crappy laptop for a do-all laptop double. Dried factory CPU paste, long memory timings, cooler cools the inductors but not the mosfets and an inch of unused internal space on both left and right

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV system agent undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (1696MHz 0.812V ~ 1860MHz 0.95V) RAM: 12GB DDR4-2666 19-19-19-43 2T Storage: 128GB Toshiba NVMe SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) Monitor: 1080p 120Hz IPS G-sync

 

The best thing to do is reading the clock speed that doesnt end in a pair of zeros. Software voltage readings are wrong if your motherboard's not a high end model

CPU: i7-2600K 4493MHz (multiplier: 43x) 1.35V (software) --> 1.4V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 104.5MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 10-11-11-30 2T 2133MHz, custom: 10-11-10-30 1T 2229MHz) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (OC'd 150Hz) TN Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Results: Cinebench R15 Single thread:159 Multi-thread: 770 (thx Meltdown Spectre patch) Super Pi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.11s 1M: 8.4s 32M: 7m 45.9s

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5 minutes ago, AwayComet108 said:

so you'd recommend the 1080?

 

Are both better than the Xbox GPU?

 

Which CPU and the rest of the parts do you have?

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Posted · Original PosterOP
1 minute ago, 191x7 said:

 

Which CPU and the rest of the parts do you have?

i7 4790k 

and 

16GB of 2133Mhz ram 

z97 gaming 7 mobo

2 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Xbox, puff. This gen of Xbox at least is worse. It sacrifices quality and runs 30fps

I was talking bout the X LOL theres no way I'd get the S or the base Xbox one

 

7 minutes ago, Plutosaurus said:

If you want 4k you should really get a 2080 or better.

 

2070 is barely better than the 2060, only saving grace is the extra VRAM buffer.

 

if you want 1440p, 2060 or Vega 56/64 are good contenders. RTX 2070 makes no sense at all IMO and you're better spending less on the before mentioned or go up to the 2080.

2080 is waaaaayyyy outta budget bro LOL I am looking to replace a Xbox one X cuz it runs 4k and ithas like 12 GB of VRAM

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Vega 56 isn't an option?

 

The Haswell i7 is fine for an RTX 2060 or GTX 1080 card.

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1 hour ago, AwayComet108 said:

i7 4790k 

and 

16GB of 2133Mhz ram 

z97 gaming 7 mobo

I was talking bout the X LOL theres no way I'd get the S or the base Xbox one

 

2080 is waaaaayyyy outta budget bro LOL I am looking to replace a Xbox one X cuz it runs 4k and ithas like 12 GB of VRAM

You can't really compare consoles to PCs.

 

Plus, most 4k console experiences are 30fps locked, which is terrible


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@Settlerteo, you think my reply was funny,  any comment you want to add??


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1080 should be capable of reaching ~60 FPS at 4k medium-ish settings. So go for that one, as it is faster than 2060 and has more VRAM

No AA will provide better FPS than DLSS


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1080 for 4k, 2060 at 4k will run out of VRAM


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3 hours ago, AwayComet108 said:

so you'd recommend the 1080?

 

Are both better than the Xbox GPU?

The xbox gpu is an underclocked rx580 so yes. I d say go for the 1080. Of course a more powerful card than 2060. No comparison at all. The next gen nvidia XX60  would be better than a gtx 1080 and that by a small margin. Which used 1080 have you found?

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1 hour ago, Constantin said:

@Settlerteo, you think my reply was funny,  any comment you want to add??

Your reply is funny, ignorant and not helpful at all because you don't know what you re talking about. Meaning that a 2080 ti might not be good for 4K and a 780 ti or a fury might be good for 4K in the same time. It all depends and your reply only stands true if the OP want to play AAA games at 4K above 60 fps. So next time do not generalize about things because you re not helping. Of course OP should have stated what does he want to see in 4K res.

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6 minutes ago, Settlerteo said:

Meaning that a 2080 ti might not be good for 4K and a 780 ti

I never talked about 2080 ti or 780 ti.

i said 2070 or above are ok for 4k.

it is clear that you have issues making sense and meaning.....


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1 minute ago, Constantin said:

I never talked about 2080 ti or 780 ti.

i said 2070 or above are ok for 4k.

it is clear that you have issues making sense and meaning.....

Can you read English? If yes try to re read my answer. Never said that you talked about a 2080ti. Please re read my post before replying. My point is that you re not helping and you talking about specific scenario while you know nothing about what OP wants to display in 4K.

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1 minute ago, Settlerteo said:

Can you read English? If yes try to re read my answer. Never said that you talked about a 2080ti. Please re read my post before replying. My point is that you re not helping and you talking about specific scenario while you know nothing about what OP wants to display in 4K.

i wont argue with you, you make your own scenarios in your mind....

klasikos ellinaras.... 


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3 minutes ago, Constantin said:

i wont argue with you, you make your own scenarios in your mind....

klasikos ellinaras.... 

I don't want to argue with you also. This is a great community and i want to help the OP through interaction with you and the other members here. I could report you for your last sentence which others won't understand here but i won't. Just try to not be aggressive here. It never helps. 

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