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Youtube forced content creator Rob Dyke to stop using his real name as it was a slur

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59 minutes ago, Syntaxvgm said:

And they don't fill the same need

They provide a way to upload, share, and watch videos.

 

1 hour ago, Syntaxvgm said:

I think a better comparison would be that McDonalds competes with Costco.

 

The two of them sell food, but as completely different platforms.

costco is membership only while Mcdonalds isn't. Even is you change it to grocery store vs McDonalds they still don't fill the same needs. McDonalds provides cooked food while grocery stores provide cook that has to be cooked but can be stored long term. Its like comparing youtube and netflix.

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32 minutes ago, bmichaels556 said:

If this doesn't convince you that tech giants are anti-free speech, I don't know what to tell you... 

youtube has been anti-free speech since 2005, before google bought it. Also, the actions of youtube in no way determine the ideas of other companies.

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39 minutes ago, poochyena said:

youtube has been anti-free speech since 2005, before google bought it. Also, the actions of youtube in no way determine the ideas of other companies.

every single company out of scilicon valley banned alex jones within the same hour. they're all anti-free speech

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17 minutes ago, Eaglerino said:

every single company out of scilicon valley banned alex jones within the same hour. they're all anti-free speech

 

1 hour ago, bmichaels556 said:

If this doesn't convince you that tech giants are anti-free speech, I don't know what to tell you... 

 

free and protected speech refers to speech that the government cannot force removals or retractions on

 

youtube is not a government entity

 

EDIT: don't get me wrong, youtube is in the wrong here for indirectly forcing someone to change their name

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But dykes are useful. 


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1 minute ago, VegetableStu said:

 

 

free and protected speech refers to speech that the government cannot force removals or retractions on

 

youtube is not a government entity

you don't have to be a government entity to be anti-free speech. it just means that it's not a legal issue.

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Just now, Arika S said:

you don't have to be a government entity to be anti-free speech. it just means that it's not a legal issue.

then why are people still saying "muh freee speach" at corporations and small businesses?

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14 minutes ago, VegetableStu said:

free and protected speech refers to speech that the government cannot force removals or retractions on

No, thats the 1st amendment. Free speech has nothing to do with the government.

 

27 minutes ago, Eaglerino said:

every single company out of scilicon valley banned alex jones within the same hour. they're all anti-free speech

it was, what, 3 companies? There are hundreds if not thousands of companies based in silicon valley. Stop asserting the views of one company onto that of others.

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3 hours ago, poochyena said:

Its like comparing youtube and netflix.

yes, that's the point. 


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2 hours ago, poochyena said:

No, thats the 1st amendment. Free speech has nothing to do with the government.

 

it was, what, 3 companies? There are hundreds if not thousands of companies based in silicon valley. Stop asserting the views of one company onto that of others.

You forgot to include "worlds largest". Just like how GAB was banned by "only 2" corporations. Which both happen to be worlds largest mobile app stores, effectively entirely deplatforming a social network, just because they refuse to censor speech of any kind unless it's actual criminal activity. Because if you don't exist on GooglePlay and Apple App Store, you basically don't exist...

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2 hours ago, VegetableStu said:

 

 

free and protected speech refers to speech that the government cannot force removals or retractions on

 

youtube is not a government entity

 

EDIT: don't get me wrong, youtube is in the wrong here for indirectly forcing someone to change their name

Right of course, but I think an individual or company can be "anti-free speech" without us talking about government. More along the lines of, "Do they support the free exchange of ideas within their company? If not, they're anti-free speech."

 

I'm pretty conservative and I think government has stuck its nose in A LOT of places it never should have. But I really am starting to see the argument that Google, Facebook and Twitter should be regulated as utilities in order to prevent this stuff. I'm still not bananas about it, but if protecting/forwarding individual rights in the public square is a legitimate role of government, I see it as potentially legitimate here. 

 

I think the biggest issue is this, and most would probably agree: The rules are not enforced uniformly, and in fact for some, depending on political leanings, there is essentially a set of "unwritten" rules that lead to bans on the fly, rather than because they violate official codes of conduct.

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so how does that fair for all the dickinson's on you tubethen 😀🤣 are they guna make them change their names for having dicks in sons lol


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12 minutes ago, PrinceNorris said:

PewDiePie should be banned because part of his nickname can encourage suiciders.

 

particularly suicidal pies. 


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13 hours ago, EarthWormJM2 said:

In reality tho, how hard would it be for YouTube/Google to put together a team of people (REAL people, not AI) that their sole job is to look at false claims and strikes against channels, or at bare minimum, give people that get a strike the option to contact this team for review... Too many of these issues from YouTube these days. They are gonna shot themselves in the foot they keep their current practices up.

Google gets over 2 million DMCA takedown notices a day. It is impossible to have a team of people handling that.

 

13 hours ago, Tsuki said:

they need to dial back the automated system a lot

Doing so would open Google up for countless of lawsuits because the DMCA dictates that they have to take action and failure to do so is grounds for lawsuits.

 

 

5 hours ago, Arika S said:

because you can still be mad at people to preventing you from saying what you like without it being a legislative requirement.

I think there is a very worrying trend that people put all their focus on "is this legal" and don't stop and ask themselves "is this the right thing to do from a moral and/or ethical standpoint".

 

 

2 hours ago, PrinceNorris said:

PewDiePie should be banned because part of his nickname can encourage suiciders.

It is also encouraging violence and genocide against people who identifies as pies.

I doubt we'd allow "PewDieJews" and yet here we are, in the current year 2019, being totally fine with "PewDiePie".

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2 hours ago, PrinceNorris said:

PewDiePie should be banned because part of his nickname can encourage suiciders.

 

Also "pew" is the sound stormtroopers make few times before they die. Pies are unrelated to the situation.

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4 hours ago, LAwLz said:

Google gets over 2 million DMCA takedown notices a day. It is impossible to have a team of people handling that.

O.o ...didn't realize it was THAT high. But it makes sense. At minimum they could still employ a bigger/more thorough team managing and improving the algorithm for take downs and such strikes. It seems like they take a 'set it and forget it' approach to their current algorithm and only update it a few times a year.

 

Being more realistic, it will probably take a mass exodus of users or channels before Google thinks about raising a finger to benefit anyone other than the advertisers.


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9 hours ago, Syntaxvgm said:

yes, that's the point. 

we aren't comparing youtube and netflix.

 

9 hours ago, RejZoR said:

if you don't exist on GooglePlay and Apple App Store, you basically don't exist...

looks at fortnite

yea, ok.

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13 minutes ago, poochyena said:

we aren't comparing youtube and netflix.

 

looks at fortnite

yea, ok.

Yeah, comparing a social network startup to a worldwide super hyped game made by huge gaming corporation with decades of history. Seems legit comparison, don't you think?

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14 minutes ago, RejZoR said:

Yeah, comparing a social network startup to a worldwide super hyped game made by huge gaming corporation with decades of history. Seems legit comparison, don't you think?

what? You simply said you can't survive on mobile without google play or apple store. I explain otherwise. They aren't a fluke either, there is also amazon's webstore and nutaku is fairly big.

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