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MrChemistryCow9
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I was looking at an upgrade for my current GPU and I saw that EVGA has 8 different types of 2070 for sale. Why so many, and what are the differences? I see slight changes in base clocks, theres only 3 types of coolers. One changes the shroud color and one changes the rgb

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1 minute ago, Brooksie359 said:

Some probably have the higher binned gpu die. 

 

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some have better clocks, just like Sapphire has like 6 different versions of AMD cards

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7 minutes ago, MrChemistryCow9 said:

I was looking at an upgrade for my current GPU and I saw that EVGA has 8 different types of 2070 for sale. Why so many, and what are the differences? I see slight changes in base clocks, theres only 3 types of coolers. One changes the shroud color and one changes the rgb

NVIDIA admits that their are two tiers of Turing processors for the 2070.  One that is better than the other.  The only way to tell is skew numbers, though Im not versed on how to figure that out, just read the articles on the why. 

 

One will overclock a lot better etc, the other is a potato compared (not really)

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My Rig: ASRock B450m Pro4, Ryzen 5 3600, ARESGAME River 5 CPU cooler, EVGA RTX 2060 KO, 16gb (2x8) 3600mhz TeamGroup T-Force RAM, ARESGAME AGV750w PSU, 1tb WD Black SN750 NVMe Win 10 boot drive, 3tb Hitachi 7200 RPM HDD, Fractal Design Focus G Mini custom painted.  

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yeah, but not all of them are available for NA, if you go on amazon, you see 5.

 

Here is ther breakdown (off the top of my head)

 

Black ed. (stock clocks)                                      normal (factory OC)

2070 blower

2070 black

2070 XC black (has TU106A)                             2070 XC (factory OC + TU106A)

2070 XC Ultra black* (has TU106A + big cooler)   2070 xc ultra (fac oc + tu106A+ bigger cooler)

                                                                           2070 FTW3 (custom PCB + all previous + 1 extra fan)

 

also there are 2 different colors for the XC black, one is solid, other is transparent, and there is a slighly taller but shorter (less than 5mm difference) XC black.

 

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Just now, Tristerin said:

NVIDIA admits that their are two tiers of Turing processors for the 2070.  One that is better than the other.  The only way to tell is skew numbers, though Im not versed on how to figure that out, just read the articles on the why. 

 

One will overclock a lot better etc, the other is a potato compared (not really)

Ok, so should I just google which cards have it or not? Is this the case with any of the other GPUs?

Current Gaming build:

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CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3800x
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i Platinum
Motherboard: ASRock X570 Taichi

Memory: 2x8GB Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 3000mhz 15-17-17-35

Graphics Card: Geforce RTX 2080

Graphics Card Cooler: EVGA XC Ultra Gaming
Storage: 500GB Samsung 860 EVO, 1TB Western Digital Blue
PSU: Thermaltake Smartpower 750W
Case: Corsair 460x Black
Case Cooling: A mix and match of fans ?
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Monitor: HP 27ea
Keyboard: Corsair K70 RGB MK.2 SE
Mouse: Corsair Glaive Black
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1 minute ago, MrChemistryCow9 said:

Ok, so should I just google which cards have it or not? Is this the case with any of the other GPUs?

Looks like @Firewrath9 just helped break it down

 

Its the 104A that is the highly binned chip?

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My Rig: ASRock B450m Pro4, Ryzen 5 3600, ARESGAME River 5 CPU cooler, EVGA RTX 2060 KO, 16gb (2x8) 3600mhz TeamGroup T-Force RAM, ARESGAME AGV750w PSU, 1tb WD Black SN750 NVMe Win 10 boot drive, 3tb Hitachi 7200 RPM HDD, Fractal Design Focus G Mini custom painted.  

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https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/37004594?

Daughter 2 Rig: ASUS B350-PRIME ATX, Ryzen 7 1700, Sapphire Nitro+ R9 Fury Tri-X, 16gb (2x8) 3200mhz V-Color Skywalker, ANTEC Earthwatts 750w PSU, MasterLiquid Lite 120 AIO cooler in Push/Pull config as rear exhaust, 250gb Samsung 850 Evo SSD, Patriot Burst 240gb SSD, Cougar MX330-X Case

 

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3 minutes ago, Firewrath9 said:

yeah, but not all of them are available for NA, if you go on amazon, you see 5.

 

Here is ther breakdown (off the top of my head)

 

Black ed. (stock clocks)                                      normal (factory OC)

2070 blower

2070 black

2070 XC black (has TU104A)                             2070 XC (factory OC + TU104)

2070 XC Ultra black* (has TU104A + big cooler)   2070 xc ultra (fac oc + tu104+ bigger cooler)

                                                                           2070 FTW3 (custom PCB + all previous + 1 extra fan)

 

also there are 2 different colors for the XC black, one is solid, other is transparent, and there is a slighly taller but shorter (less than 5mm difference) XC black.

 

TU104 is RTX 2080 in the consumer lineup.

 

I dont think any of the factory OC cards get TU106-400A, they seemed to all be TU106-400.

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Just now, Jurrunio said:

TU104 is RTX 2080

 

I dont think any of the factory OC cards get TU106-400A, they seemed to all be TU106-400.

yeah oopsie, it was GP104 for pascal xD

no, the XC ultra has TU104, and the FTW prob does, as it is higher in the stack, they don't tell in the spec sheet.

https://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/3386-nvidias-secret-gpu-tu106-400-vs-400a-2070-xc-ultra-review

 

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4 minutes ago, Tristerin said:

Looks like @Firewrath9 just helped break it down

 

Its the 104A that is the highly binned chip?

I just checked, the TU106A is higher binned.

Current Gaming build:

Specs:
CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3800x
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i Platinum
Motherboard: ASRock X570 Taichi

Memory: 2x8GB Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 3000mhz 15-17-17-35

Graphics Card: Geforce RTX 2080

Graphics Card Cooler: EVGA XC Ultra Gaming
Storage: 500GB Samsung 860 EVO, 1TB Western Digital Blue
PSU: Thermaltake Smartpower 750W
Case: Corsair 460x Black
Case Cooling: A mix and match of fans ?
Peripherals:

Monitor: HP 27ea
Keyboard: Corsair K70 RGB MK.2 SE
Mouse: Corsair Glaive Black
Headphones: Corsair HS60
Microphone: Blue Snowball Black Edition

 

"Gaming" Laptop: Apple MacBook Pro Mid-2012 with Nvidia Geforce Now
 

 


 

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10 minutes ago, Firewrath9 said:

no, the XC ultra has TU104, and the FTW prob does, as it is higher in the stack, they don't tell in the spec sheet.

https://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/3386-nvidias-secret-gpu-tu106-400-vs-400a-2070-xc-ultra-review

 

When Steve grabs the bare PCB of the card with TU106-400A to show it to the camera, it's obviously the XC Ultra's PCB (the VRM is so much better than the FE PCB on the Black). I think you're reading it wrong.

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Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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12 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

When Steve grabs the bare PCB of the card with TU106-400A to show it to the camera, it's obviously the XC Ultra's PCB (the VRM is so much better than the FE PCB on the Black). I think you're reading it wrong.

i forgot the A, i meant TU106A

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