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I am looking at upgrading my gpu (gts 450) to a gtx 1050ti but am afraid of bottlenecking

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Posted (edited) · Original PosterOP

My friend wants to sell me his old gpu (gtx 1050ti) with a pc case but i am afraid that my system will bottleneck the gpu because of how old it is. Any help?

 

I have a late 2010 i7 with 8gb of ddr3 and some late 2010 motherboard, and i think it’s a prebuilt Dell Vostro (said 420 but it is probably different because it has an i7 from around the same time).

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Dell Vostro 420 is Core2 Duo/Quad based.

 

Does your PC have a i7-9xx or i7-8xx series CPU? Both should be just fine for a GTX 1050 Ti.


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it depends on what games you want to play, newer games, such as monster hunter world will be unplayable but most older games (2016 and older) eg rise of the tomb raider will be no problem, neither will any esports games, eg cs:go and fortnite

 

edit: make sure either your old case has room for a 1050ti or your motherboard has standard front headers (the pins that connect the case power button to the motherboard), 

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Posted · Original PosterOP
9 hours ago, Pasi123 said:

Dell Vostro 420 is Core2 Duo/Quad based.

 

Does your PC have a i7-9xx or i7-8xx series CPU? Both should be just fine for a GTX 1050 Ti.

I don’t know what it is, all i know is that it’s an i7 from 2010-2011.

it might be a different vostro then but it’s definitely from the same time though.

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9 hours ago, Reuberg said:

My friend wants to sell me his old gpu (gtx 1050ti) with a pc case but i am afraid that my system will bottleneck the gpu because of how old it is. Any help?

What does it cost?
How much more is an RX570??

 

I'd rather get the RX570 instead because its just soo much faster.


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2 minutes ago, Stefan Payne said:

What does it cost?
How much more is an RX570??

 

I'd rather get the RX570 instead because its just soo much faster.

$200 with a new case and a fan (the card also has 2 years of warranty still on it)

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8 hours ago, k.m.p said:

it depends on what games you want to play, newer games, such as monster hunter world will be unplayable but most older games (2016 and older) eg rise of the tomb raider will be no problem, neither will any esports games, eg cs:go and fortnite

 

edit: make sure either your old case has room for a 1050ti or your motherboard has standard front headers (the pins that connect the case power button to the motherboard), 

It comes with a new case and the board has the right connector.

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5 minutes ago, Reuberg said:

$200 with a new case and a fan (the card also has 2 years of warranty still on it)

Also i’m not getting an AMD card. Even if it’s faster it will still probably bottleneck at the same point.

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1 hour ago, Reuberg said:

$200 with a new case and a fan (the card also has 2 years of warranty still on it)

Dude that's freaking expensive.

A new case is like 70€ or so in decent form and they come with up to 3 Fans (though cheapish ones).

That means you pay like 130€ for the Card.

 

A new, way better RX570 is like 140€.

 

And that stuff is used...


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1 hour ago, Reuberg said:

Also i’m not getting an AMD card. Even if it’s faster it will still probably bottleneck at the same point.

So you rather pay 200€ for a shitty nVidia Card instead of 150€ for a better AMD Card?
Why exactly??


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2 hours ago, Reuberg said:

I don’t know what it is, all i know is that it’s an i7 from 2010-2011.

it might be a different vostro then but it’s definitely from the same time though.

If you download CPU-Z, it will tell you what CPU you have.

2 hours ago, Stefan Payne said:

What does it cost?
How much more is an RX570??

 

I'd rather get the RX570 instead because its just soo much faster.

The 1050Ti uses much less power than an RX570, because the OP is using a prebuilt PC i'd recommend the 1050Ti instead.

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3 hours ago, Stefan Payne said:

So you rather pay 200€ for a shitty nVidia Card instead of 150€ for a better AMD Card?
Why exactly??

i'm spending $200 aud smartass

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2 hours ago, Reuberg said:

i'm spending $200 aud

You didn't specify that in your initial Post, wich is here:

7 hours ago, Reuberg said:

$200 with a new case and a fan (the card also has 2 years of warranty still on it)

So without specifying the Dollar you are talking about, everyone here assume the Standard Dollar, wich is the US Dollar.

Without specifying the Dollar, YOU are the only one knowing that YOU are talking about the rahter worthless Aussie Dollar. THAT is not our fault, its yours for not telling us what dollar you mean.

 

An with the Aussie Dollar, it looks different, 200 Aussie Dollar are a decent price...


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1 hour ago, Stefan Payne said:

You didn't specify that in your initial Post, wich is here:

So without specifying the Dollar you are talking about, everyone here assume the Standard Dollar, wich is the US Dollar.

Without specifying the Dollar, YOU are the only one knowing that YOU are talking about the rahter worthless Aussie Dollar. THAT is not our fault, its yours for not telling us what dollar you mean.

 

An with the Aussie Dollar, it looks different, 200 Aussie Dollar are a decent price...

But you said € bruh which isn’t even the same so... we’re both dumbasses (just i am more of one) also amd chips are trash because their hardware controller software is trash and they are more expensive.

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18 hours ago, wojtepanik said:

I have i7 920 and I have gtx970 and it works like a charm, overclock it and it will be even better

Thanks man

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1 hour ago, Reuberg said:

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 amd chips are trash because their hardware controller software is trash and they are more expensive.

 

Uhu.. right, amd in general is quite a bit cheaper than their intel counterpart... also, AMD make damn good CPU’s nowadays. 

 

Cant speak for GPU’s as I’ve never used one from AMD. 


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The CPU will still probably end up as a bottleneck, but bottlenecks just mean your fully utilizing a component and shouldn't be a bad thing always.

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3 minutes ago, RAM555789 said:

The CPU will still probably end up as a bottleneck, but bottlenecks just mean your fully utilizing a component and shouldn't be a bad thing always.

Most likely the CPU isn't going to be a bottleneck with a GTX 1050 Ti


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2 hours ago, Pasi123 said:

Most likely the CPU isn't going to be a bottleneck with a GTX 1050 Ti

Yes it will, it will match up close to the FX-8350 in benchmarks and I have had personal experience of an overclocked FX bottlenecking the 1050 TI. It's a surprisingly good GPU for 1080p gaming. In some more Vram intensive games it will fall behind but it's very nice for what it does bring.

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Just now, RAM555789 said:

Yes it will, it will match up close to the FX-8350 in benchmarks and I have had personal experience of an overcl9cked FX bottlenecking the 1050 TI. It's a surprisingly good GPU for 1080p gaming. In some more Cram intensive games it will fall behind but it's very nice for what it does bring.

At least my Xeon doesn't bottleneck my GTX 960 at all. Even my i7-950 (Xeon W3550) didn't bottleneck it.


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3 minutes ago, Pasi123 said:

At least my Xeon doesn't bottleneck my GTX 960 at all. Even my i7-950 (Xeon W3550) didn't bottleneck it.

The gtx 960s Vram holds it back in more modern titles.  In older titles that are less Vram intensive it can pull a bit ahead in some cases. 

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8 minutes ago, RAM555789 said:

Yes it will, it will match up close to the FX-8350 in benchmarks and I have had personal experience of an overclocked FX bottlenecking the 1050 TI. It's a surprisingly good GPU for 1080p gaming. In some more Vram intensive games it will fall behind but it's very nice for what it does bring.

My i3-4130 didnt bottleneck 1050Ti. 

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6 hours ago, Reuberg said:

also amd chips are trash because their hardware controller software is trash and they are more expensive.

You mean the drivers? They are superior to Nvidia's, both in design and function.

RX 570 is cheaper than 1050 Ti, yet noticeably more powerful. The only scenario where 1050 Ti over RX 570 makes sense is if you try to build SFF system or use a bad PSU


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2 hours ago, filippalfi said:

My i3-4130 didnt bottleneck 1050Ti. 

Assuming he has an i7 920 and not an It 8xx something your chip is still more powerful than his.

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