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Posted · Original PosterOP

Based in Cyprus

 

Maximum budget is 1250-1375 Euros

 

Looking to be able also play World of Warcraft at good performance

 

From my research initially I was going for 17.3", 8750H, 1060 6GB, 16GB RAM, 256GB SSD, 120HZ but then I realized that it would be too expensive, and not sure how long would I wait for a price for such to drop

 

Now I would be happy with a 15.6", 8300H, 1060 Max-Q, 8GB RAM, 128GB SSD + 0.25TB HDD

 

I can buy from such sites as Amazon's in Europe when they deliver (most do not to me), Overclockers (cheap delivery), Scan (100GB delivery), computeruniverse (100 Euros delivery but was 25 only recently). Then local sites as https://public-cyprus.com.cy and http://stephanis.com.cy - but those are expensive and crap

 

Initially I saw this laptop for 1150 Euros with delivery but hesitated: https://www.amazon.it/gp/product/B07G44YVXQ/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A3JMBZ7PMVPBSB&psc=1 Now it is like 1450 with delivery (+300 Euros)

 

Today I saw this in shop locally: ASUS FX504-E4112T with 15.6", 8300H, 128GB SSD + 1TB HDD, 8GB RAM, 1060 6GB. Down to 1200 Euros from 1350. My concern is that FX504 are told to overheat a lot and just turns out very bad. Not sure if 8300H here instead of 8750H helps

 

Today I saw @GeneXiS_X post recommending GL504GM, MSI GP63, Omen 15 dc and Dell G7:

 

I managed to find this: https://www.overclockers.co.uk/msi-gp63-nvidia-gtx-1060-16gb-15.6-fhd-120hz-i7-8750h-gaming-laptop-lt-279-ms.html 1250 Euros with delivery

 

My questions if you could kindly help if my specs are correct for what I want and what would you say in regards to the choice? I was waiting for RTX to come out and drop prices for old but so far not much happened

 

Thanks so much!

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Any links of online stores? Fine with 15 and 17 inch? Any preference on weight and battery life?


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Posted · Original PosterOP
2 hours ago, GeneXiS_X said:

Any links of online stores? Fine with 15 and 17 inch? Any preference on weight and battery life?

Online stores:

Cyprus (local):

Stephanis (English. As always, most is 1050 Ti or too expensive. The best I saw is like 1500 Euros for a decent model before. Other more-or-less decent models begin around 1400 Euros. In shop the cheapest were 1500 (Legion and Dell (IIRC))): stephanis link

Public (in Greek. Sorted for my preferences but literally nothing is available online; only saw this yesterday in the shop but heard about the overheating (4 at the end): from shop link😞online shop public

Eshopcy (Greek; decent models appear to be out of stock/disappeared): eshop link

 

For shops all over the Europe:

Overclockers (~25GBP delivery): overclockers link

Scan (~100GBP delivery): scan link

Computeruniverse (100 Euros delivery): computeruniverselink

Also Amazons in Europe: such as this Acer Predator Helios 300 - acer on amazon link uk

Lastly there are custom build laptops but I am worried about the quality: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/ and https://www.cyberpowerpc.com/ - they don't seem affordable either

 

I gave up on FX504 after reading bad reviews, even if it is with 8300H instead of 8750H. 505 seems too expensive. Not sure about GL

 

Currently thinking about Helios and really like this one MSI:

 

msi on overclockers link

 

Only concern is 128GB SSD

 

Also this saw a while ago for 1150 Euros with delivery (now 1425 - gl703): asus on amazon it Not sure if waiting is worth it for a drop again

 

Max budget with delivery 1250GBP/1375 Euros

 

@GeneXiS_X

edit: 17.3 is even better but 15.6 is minimum

 

battery life and weight are irrelevant

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  • PCSpecialist Recoil II 17 (TongFang GK7CN6S)
  • HP Omen 17
  • CyberpowerPC Tracer III 15 Xtreme VR / Medion Erazer X6805 (TongFang GK5CN67) - low sRGB IPS, optional 144Hz IPS (Tracer only)
  • MSI GP63/GP73 8RE
  • PCSpecialist Recoil II 15 (TongFang GK5CN6Z)
  • Asus GL703GM
  • Lenovo Legion Y530 - low sRGB IPS, optional 72% NTSC 60/144Hz IPS
  • HP Omen 15 dc - low sRGB IPS, optional 144Hz IPS
  • PCSpecialist Vyper (TongFang GJ5CN6E) - low sRGB IPS
  • Dell G5 - low sRGB FHD IPS

All with 1060 GPU (RTX laptops are out of your budget, this is the closest one - TongFang GK7CP0S)

If you have other options in mind, let me know


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Posted · Original PosterOP
1 hour ago, GeneXiS_X said:
  • PCSpecialist Recoil II 17 (TongFang GK7CN6S)
  • HP Omen 17
  • CyberpowerPC Tracer III 15 Xtreme VR / Medion Erazer X6805 (TongFang GK5CN67) - low sRGB IPS, optional 144Hz IPS (Tracer only)
  • MSI GP63/GP73 8RE
  • PCSpecialist Recoil II 15 (TongFang GK5CN6Z)
  • Asus GL703GM
  • Lenovo Legion Y530 - low sRGB IPS, optional 72% NTSC 60/144Hz IPS
  • HP Omen 15 dc - low sRGB IPS, optional 144Hz IPS
  • PCSpecialist Vyper (TongFang GJ5CN6E) - low sRGB IPS
  • Dell G5 - low sRGB FHD IPS

All with 1060 GPU (RTX laptops are out of your budget, this is the closest one - TongFang GK7CP0S)

If you have other options in mind, let me know

Appreciated. Currently I could only find GP63, and Acer Helios Predator 300. My main concern is the thermals. Did you miss the latter one for this reason? Also, MSI seems nice, but concerns are build quality and small SSD. I will have a search for others that you listed in a bit. Thanks again.

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23 minutes ago, NeedALaptop said:

Acer Helios Predator 300

Bad cooling, OKish overall build quality

23 minutes ago, NeedALaptop said:

but concerns are build quality and small SSD

MSI has inconsistent QC so take note. You can always upgrade storage later, cheaper too


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Posted · Original PosterOP
3 hours ago, GeneXiS_X said:

Bad cooling, OKish overall build quality

MSI has inconsistent QC so take note. You can always upgrade storage later, cheaper too

Which of the three below is the best if the price is similar? GL703GM with 8300H, or GP63 vs Acer Helios 300 both 8750H?

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Posted · Original PosterOP

Still not able to find a decent Dell that would be available to me.

 

Currently considering GP63 despite an SSD upgrade. The laptop costs about 1125 GBP with delivery or 1300 Euros.

 

I found GP73 which seems to be a 17.3 over 15.6 essentially. Any thoughts on how those two compare? Specs seem identical but not sure about the build. Heard more people complaining about GP73 overheating over GP63 despite the bigger size

 

It only costs 100 GBP more/125 Euros

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12 hours ago, NeedALaptop said:

Any thoughts on how those two compare?

They are basically the same


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Posted · Original PosterOP
5 hours ago, GeneXiS_X said:

They are basically the same

Thanks.

 

Currently I am deciding between GP73 and FX705GM. They both cost the same but I need at least a 250GB SSD - the former only comes with 128GBs and therefore it will cost me about an extra 100 GBP for a NVMe (decided for Samsung Evo Plus 970 250GB).

 

I am going for 17.3 over 15.6 as I believe this is better for gaming, and also maybe allowing more space for cooling.

 

As per the laptops, I have heard a lot of positive things about GP73's cooling from you and others. The only concern about this laptop is the build quality, which seems to be better in FX705GM according to the reviews, however cooling is the most important.

 

My question is can FX705GM's cooling compare to GP73's? As I have read mixed reviews. Otherwise, I understand that it is better then to get the latter and an SSD (I am also not looking forward to change it, as I am not very proficient) - currently it is almost 1200 GBP here and I am not sure when it will drop (to match the % discount on GP63. Also given the fact of RTX coming out).

 

Appreciated!

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16 minutes ago, NeedALaptop said:

can FX705GM's cooling compare to GP73's

cannot compare at all, cooling in FX series is a joke


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8 hours ago, GeneXiS_X said:

cannot compare at all, cooling in FX series is a joke

I dont know the GP series isnt any better. They throttle earlier, but cooling isnt "better".

 

Both laptops are pretty poor choices.

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3 minutes ago, markr54632 said:

I dont know the GP series isnt any better. They throttle earlier, but cooling isnt "better".

 

Both laptops are pretty poor choices.

What would you recommend then? Thanks.

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4 minutes ago, NeedALaptop said:

What would you recommend then? Thanks.

Can you find the Lenovo legion or omen that were recommended above?

 

If not I would look into the tongfang chassis recommended above. The only thing that sucks here is support by company that brands these chassis is usually subpar, and in 3 years when you need to replace a battery or fan they are usually much harder to find.

 

Without knowing your situation if you are going to use this for school or work I would advise you to get the 15.6. Finding a backpack or travel bag for a 17 is hard, carrying them is harder, and you look silly in a professional setting (this coming from someone who uses a laptop that is black and red).

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Posted · Original PosterOP
2 minutes ago, markr54632 said:

Can you find the Lenovo legion or omen that were recommended above?

 

If not I would look into the tongfang chassis recommended above. The only thing that sucks here is support by company that brands these chassis is usually subpar, and in 3 years when you need to replace a battery or fan they are usually much harder to find.

 

Without knowing your situation if you are going to use this for school or work I would advise you to get the 15.6. Finding a backpack or travel bag for a 17 is hard, carrying them is harder, and you look silly in a professional setting (this coming from someone who uses a laptop that is black and red).

Thanks. I have already upped my budget from 750 Euros originally to 1500 now, on top of having a reduced number of sources that can ship to me. Currently I am unable to find any Omens that I would be able to afford. Currently looking through Legions but if memory serves me well it will be the same situation.

 

It will be mostly used for playing World of Warcraft at home and this is why I believe 17.3 is better (usually an extra of 100 Euros on the 15.6 version).

 

Cheers!

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12 hours ago, markr54632 said:

I dont know the GP series isnt any better. They throttle earlier, but cooling isnt "better".

 

Both laptops are pretty poor choices.

cooling in GP63 is definitely better

 

both have their own issues


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Laptop Reviews:

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Lenovo Legion Y520 - no.16 most viewed review in LTT forum (as of 25/11)

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Posted · Original PosterOP
3 hours ago, GeneXiS_X said:

cooling in GP63 is definitely better

 

both have their own issues

How would GP73 and GE73 differ, both with 8750H and 1060 6GB? And what difference would it make with a 1070 inside?

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3 hours ago, NeedALaptop said:

How would GP73 and GE73 differ

Some extra features like RGB, Killer wifi etc which isn't that significant. I would go for GP73 personally since build quality, cooling, display quality and input devices are pretty much the same


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Laptop Reviews:

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Lenovo Legion Y520 - no.16 most viewed review in LTT forum (as of 25/11)

Acer Aspire 5 Illegear Raven Commandos Glock 5

Specs of my Y530:

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Intel Core i5-8300H Nvidia GTX1050TI 2GB LP156WFG-SPB2 144Hz IPS 16GB 2666MHZ DDR4 RAM (2x8GB) Samsung PM981 256GB NVMe SSD+Seagate ST1000LM035 1TB 5400RPM HDD (spare)

My Phone: Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 (Snapdragon 625, 3GB RAM, 32GB ROM)

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