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4 minutes ago, Lurick said:

I don't use Spotify myself so I could be way off here but in most cases, on other sites, the risk of getting malware has gone up because they don't screen ads and just let anything and everything on. If Spotify operates in a similar manner I can see why people want to use them.

i don't know, i've had premium for years. 

 

however i do have adblock installed and i disable it on youtube, twitch (only enabled at night cuz scary ads and nightmares etc) and the forum most of the time but for everyhting else i leave it on cuz malware. 


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2 minutes ago, firelighter487 said:

i don't know, i've had premium for years. 

 

however i do have adblock installed and i disable it on youtube, twitch (only enabled at night cuz scary ads and nightmares etc) and the forum most of the time but for everyhting else i leave it on cuz malware. 

Clearly even youtube is perfectly safe.

 

/sarcasm

 

https://www.tomsguide.com/us/youtube-mining-malware,news-26530.html (to name just a recent example)


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23 minutes ago, dylanthompson2 said:

I also use Spotify and an ad blocker on my PC. I don't agree with the new terms of service for that reason.

You agree to the TOS and the end user agreement when you use and sign up for Spotify, you should not be surprised if your account gets disabled. 

 

Spotify uses ad revenue to pay for itself, if you cheat that system, you are getting a paid product for free - essentially piracy.

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18 minutes ago, Rohith_Kumar_Sp said:

imagine if youtube blocked users for using ad blockers.

 

18 minutes ago, SansVarnic said:

Didn't say I supported it.

They should do what Hulu does/did (intentionally/not). 

 

Quadruple the length of breaks between songs. Want to avoid ads? Fine, sit in silence for three minutes instead.


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8 minutes ago, Lurick said:

If sites can screen their ads so I won't get infected with some bullshit malware then I wouldn't run adblockers, until then, I'll err on the side of caution and whitelist sites on a case by case basis.

I think I saw it called the "Trusted Agent Problem" once before, but my Google-fu isn't coming up with much. Short version: you have to trust the 3rd party with absolutely no way to verify they actually are trustworthy.

 

Thus, always run Adblock.

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4 minutes ago, Curufinwe_wins said:

Clearly even youtube is perfectly safe.

 

/sarcasm

 

https://www.tomsguide.com/us/youtube-mining-malware,news-26530.html (to name just a recent example)

i use a Mac and i have malwarebytes premium on it so... i guess it'll be fine. if not i'll have to get youtube premium and whatever the twitch equivelant of it is. 


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8 minutes ago, RorzNZ said:

Spotify uses ad revenue to pay for itself, if you cheat that system, you are getting a paid product for free - essentially piracy.

Don't start comparing adblocking to piracy, it is 100% not the same thing.
Even without adblock you might not be seeing ads, especially targeted ones as many of them are region based and if there isn't any for your region, you won't be seeing any. Ads for a brand that is only available in the US is 100% pointless for someone who doesn't live there after all. 
What will service owners do, block people in other countries because they are not seeing ads?


I don't even use adblock for Youtube and haven't seen any ads for months on any of my devices, even on a different network, for example. According to you that's akin to "piracy" ? Really now?


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2 minutes ago, TetraSky said:

Don't start comparing adblocking to piracy, it is 100% not the same thing.

not paying or viewing ads to listen to music... looks like piracy to me... 


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7 minutes ago, TetraSky said:

Don't start comparing adblocking to piracy, it is 100% not the same thing.
Even without adblock you might not be seeing ads, especially targeted ones as many of them are region based and if there isn't any for your region, you won't be seeing any. Ads for a brand that is only available in the US is 100% pointless for someone who doesn't live there after all. 
What will service owners do, block people in other countries because they are not seeing ads?


I don't even use adblock for Youtube and haven't seen any ads for months on any of my devices, even on a different network, for example. According to you that's akin to "piracy" ? Really now?

That's like saying a movie studio handing me a copy is piracy.

 

It's in Spotify's right to NOT serve you an ad. It's NOT your right to decide to use the service for free and not receive the ad.


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13 minutes ago, firelighter487 said:

i don't know, i've had premium for years. 

 

however i do have adblock installed and i disable it on youtube, twitch (only enabled at night cuz scary ads and nightmares etc) and the forum most of the time but for everyhting else i leave it on cuz malware. 

I don't want to waste time viewing ads on Youtube videos, most of the channels that I watch have ads integrated into the beginning or end of their videos anyway. And IIRC for Twitch you'd have to get Turbo that gives you a badge and no ads.

9 minutes ago, Curufinwe_wins said:

Clearly even youtube is perfectly safe.

 

/sarcasm

 

https://www.tomsguide.com/us/youtube-mining-malware,news-26530.html (to name just a recent example)

Yeah I still don't trust the ads on youtube, if they more carefully screened their ads maybe but i'd rather not risk getting malware.

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40 minutes ago, BobVonBob said:

Disabling accounts seems like it's going a bit far, but if the only way to block ads is using a modded client then I get it.

I never used their client because if you run spotify in chrome you can use ad block. I guess now they are going to crack down on the 2% of people who do that. That is fine by me though as I use YouTube for most of my music anyways. 

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2 minutes ago, Blademaster91 said:

I don't want to waste time viewing ads on Youtube videos, most of the channels that I watch have ads integrated into the beginning or end of their videos anyway. And IIRC for Twitch you'd have to get Turbo that gives you a badge and no ads.

most of the channels i watch on YouTube are demonitised. so i don't see many ads on YouTube anyway xD 

 

as for twitch i have the duckduckgo privacy extention installed and enabled for all sites. i don't know if it blocks ads on twitch.... cuz i don't see many. 

 

i know for a fact that the privacy extention doesn't block all ads. it just blocks trackers which means i don't see the amazon ad at the bottom of the forum, but i do see the one at the top right. 


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24 minutes ago, firelighter487 said:

i use a Mac and i have malwarebytes premium on it so... i guess it'll be fine. if not i'll have to get youtube premium and whatever the twitch equivelant of it is. 

Or when youtube gets hijacked with adds for ponzi schemes or pornography sites...

 

Honestly, it's just not worth dealing with (esp with the aforementioned ludicrous data utilization and fees associated with it).

 

There is a reason why advertising laws and regulations on radio and TV have existed for a long time, and enforcement of equivalent policies digitally is massively lacking.


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Just now, Curufinwe_wins said:

Or when youtube gets hijacked with adds for ponzi schemes or pornography sites...

never had that happen to me... 


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29 minutes ago, firelighter487 said:

i use a Mac and i have malwarebytes premium on it so... i guess it'll be fine. if not i'll have to get youtube premium and whatever the twitch equivelant of it is. 

Just a heads up, Twitch prime no longer blocks ads. 

You'll either have to use an ad blocker or subscribe to the streamer.


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1 minute ago, Cyberspirit said:

Just a heads up, Twitch prime no longer blocks ads. 

You'll either have to use an ad blocker or subscribe to the streamer.

wait what? it will block ads for that streamer only if i pay to sub to them? lol... 


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20 hours ago, Lurick said:

If sites can screen their ads so I won't get infected with some bullshit malware then I wouldn't run adblockers, until then, I'll err on the side of caution and whitelist sites on a case by case basis.

Not enough people white-list sites. If I regularly use a 'safe' site then I always allow ads. I use Adblocker more for sites I'm not familiar with or for sites I suspect maybe be dodgy. 

19 hours ago, Cyberspirit said:

Just a heads up, Twitch prime no longer blocks ads. 

You'll either have to use an ad blocker or subscribe to the streamer.

Yeah I think Amazon were losing too much money by not screening the ads. When you think about it, there are a lot of Twitch Prime users, anyone with Amazon Prime can sign up for it.

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12 minutes ago, Brooksie359 said:

What's  that?

It's an adblocker that works by blocking the dns request of the ad. It is undetectable and runs on everything


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then they ask why piracy exists

 

piracy exists because shit like this my man.


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22 minutes ago, aezakmi said:

then they ask why piracy exists

 

piracy exists because shit like this my man.

Having to listen to ads on a free service is absolutely not a valid reason to pirate something. You have no right to the content outside of the rights and conditions specifically granted by the owner of the IP.


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Wait Spotify has a free version? It's so cheap... 

 

I mean even a physical collection is nearly useless these days, nearly everything is on there. And I have 400-500s of CDs. 


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It makes sense, and I'm not gonna bitch about it, but I tend to use an ad-blocker (not on this site, Linus) for music things. Oh well, if you care that much, just use Soundiiz and convert your spotify playlists to youtube or pandora and use an ad blocker there. 

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