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1 hour ago, k.m.p said:

 

 

 

I agree EA's done a lot of shitty and crappy things on repeated occasions but i don't think that's why their sales are so poor. 

 

In fact, i think its just people are tired of the sort of games they put out. Honestly, when have you seen them innovate?

 

Blizzard used to be hailed as the golden standard as the gaming industry, and now? Most people I talk to don't even touch their games and don't even mention my nephews and nieces, its all about fortnite and league of legend for them. 

 

Call it a generation gap, the old is done with gaming and moving on with their life and the new (kids) are not interested in what their pops are used to playing. 

 

Perfect example is the MMO genre, it's practically dead aside from WOW

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5 minutes ago, Bcat00 said:

I agree EA's done a lot of shitty and crappy things on repeated occasions but i don't think that's why their sales are so poor. 

 

In fact, i think its just people are tired of the sort of games they put out. Honestly, when have you seen them innovate?

 

Blizzard used to be hailed as the golden standard as the gaming industry, and now? Most people I talk to don't even touch their games and don't even mention my nephews and nieces, its all about fortnite and league of legend for them. 

 

Call it a generation gap, the old is done with gaming and moving on with their life and the new (kids) are not interested in what their pops are used to playing. 

 

Perfect example is the MMO genre, it's practically dead aside from WOW

True, for a game to be successful in this market it can't rely on a preexisting fanbase of the previous game, it has to do something new and fresh that appeals to players.

'more of the same' games only work for a short while before people get bored, needless to say the shitty things they've done does not help the situation in any way

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It's seems these days if you fart in an elevator tech stocks will drop.  Not surprised when the whole market is volatile, we should be technically having a 1980's meltdown but for whatever reason the economy refuses to die.  This is probably good. but also explains why everyone is a but tense about about earnings.


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2 hours ago, Bcat00 said:

Perfect example is the MMO genre, it's practically dead aside from WOW

No. WoW is the MMO that is dead after countless poor decisions from Activision-Blizzard.

As of August 31, 2018... FFXIV had 14 Million Active subscriptions. The MMO genre is not dead, people are just tired of WoW because Blizzard continued to take out things that should of been obtainable in the game and put it on the blizzard store. (Mounts,Pets,ETC). The game also has been a complete shitshow the last 5-6 years which lead to a massive player drop off.

Simply put, make a game that makes your customer want to quit their job over. Microtransactions and shitty gameplay experiences do not keep players loyal. Don't make your game political (BF5).  

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who would have guessed if you demonise your most loyal fanbase they would stop buying your game


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4 hours ago, Sauron said:

Well, that's expected when a game doesn't sell as well as anticipated... especially a big franchise like BF. As for why this happened, honestly I'm not sure - I don't think it's the single player being bad, it has always been trash in battlefield games ever since they introduced a CoD style campaign. I don't think it's the lack of a BR mode either, though they may have lost a lot of customers to Fortnite and PUBG.

 

It may be that people are just no longer interested in Battlefield-like games, or they've been burned by the Battlefront fiascos. I myself haven't bought a Battlefield game in years due to their season pass nonsense and their insistence on making the multiplayer closer and closer to CoD, which I never liked.

It isn't surprising with BF5, not just EA forcing politics into the game or the "if you don't like it don't buy it" which is the worst thing a company can tell a consumer, but rushing the game to launch with tons of bugs,only a few maps and guns,no custom rent a server program which helps to build and retain a playerbase rather than joining into random servers.

I would agree people are probably tired of the Battlefield-like games because there hasn't been anything that new, even some of the Battlefield youtubers are asking EA to do something like another Bad Company title, yet EA/Dice doesn't seem to know why people like the Bad Company games.

Although the season pass "premium" DLC was better than what EA is doing with BF5, EA promised the players a ton of free content for buying the deluxe edition yet all it turns out to be are a few weapon or character cosmetics here and there, at least with the paid season pass EA was giving their customers some decent maps and weapons.

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2 minutes ago, Blademaster91 said:

not just EA forcing politics into the game

Honestly ain't nobody got time for that - having a woman in a videogame is not political unless you really want to make it so, and even if it were the impact on the enjoyability of the game is absolutely minimal. The only people I can see boycotting the game exclusively for that don't deserve consideration.

5 minutes ago, Blademaster91 said:

rushing the game to launch with tons of bugs,only a few maps and guns,no custom rent a server program which helps to build and retain a playerbase rather than joining into random servers.

Now that's a valid complaint. I didn't know that it was particularly buggy.


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Others have mentioned it, but it's hardly surprising considering the bad press EA has generated over the years.


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5 hours ago, Sauron said:

As for why this happened, honestly I'm not sure

Allow me to illustrate.

We need more boys in My Little Pony!  We need new characters to convert Pinky-Pie, Twilight Sparkle and Rainbow Dash to characters like 'War horse', 'Cavalier', 'Artax' and 'The Horse Mask' and have them fighting and dismembering each other & baddies to attract a better demographic than silly little crybaby girls.  MLP can't rely on just the little girl market and needs to be more welcoming to others, their interests, values and goals.

If you don't agree, or understand why this plan is brilliant you're an overly emotionally unhinged pussy and need to man up.

 

Now continue to buy MLP...Or else.

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7 minutes ago, MoonSpot said:

Allow me to illustrate.

We need more boys in My Little Pony!  We need new characters to convert Pinky-Pie, Twilight Sparkle and Rainbow Dash to characters like 'War horse', 'Cavalier', 'Artax' and 'The Horse Mask' and have them fighting and dismembering each other & baddies to attract a better demographic than silly little crybaby girls.  MLP can't rely on just the little girl market and needs to be more welcoming to others, their interests, values and goals.

If you don't agree, or understand why this plan is brilliant you're an overly emotionally unhinged pussy and need to man up.

 

Now continue to buy MLP...Or else.

Honestly, I wouldn't expect anyone but a child to be upset there was a woman in a videogame. If the demographic for battlefield games is exclusively immature sexists then maybe it's time for the franchise to die.


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Sauron'stm Product Scores:

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Don't take these as complete reviews or final truths - they are just my personal impressions on products I may or may not have used, summed up in a couple of sentences and a rough score. All scores take into account the unit's price and time of release, heavily so, therefore don't expect absolute performance to be reflected here.

 

-Lenovo Thinkpad X220 - [8/10]

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A durable and reliable machine that is relatively lightweight, has all the hardware it needs to never feel sluggish and has a great IPS matte screen. Downsides are mostly due to its age, most notably the screen resolution of 1366x768 and usb 2.0 ports.

 

-Apple Macbook (2015) - [Garbage -/10]

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From my perspective, this product has no redeeming factors given its price and the competition. It is underpowered, overpriced, impractical due to its single port and is made redundant even by Apple's own iPad pro line.

 

-OnePlus X - [7/10]

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A good phone for the price. It does everything I (and most people) need without being sluggish and has no particularly bad flaws. The lack of recent software updates and relatively barebones feature kit (most notably the lack of 5GHz wifi, biometric sensors and backlight for the capacitive buttons) prevent it from being exceptional.

 

-Microsoft Surface Book 2 - [Garbage - -/10]

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Overpriced and rushed, offers nothing notable compared to the competition, doesn't come with an adequate charger despite the premium price. Worse than the Macbook for not even offering the small plus sides of having macOS. Buy a Razer Blade if you want high performance in a (relatively) light package.

 

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-Apple iPad Pro - [5/10]

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A pretty good product, sunk by its price (plus the extra cost of the physical keyboard and the pencil). Buy it if you don't mind the Apple tax and are looking for a very light office machine with an excellent digitizer. Particularly good for rich students. Bad for cheap tinkerers like myself.

 

 

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49 minutes ago, Sauron said:

Honestly ain't nobody got time for that - having a woman in a videogame is not political unless you really want to make it so, and even if it were the impact on the enjoyability of the game is absolutely minimal. The only people I can see boycotting the game exclusively for that don't deserve consideration.

Now that's a valid complaint. I didn't know that it was particularly buggy.

I don't mind women being in the game at all, people complaining about that seems to be just a small group trying to ruin it for everyone else, but its what  @MoonSpot mentioned,EA trying to attract a demographic that really isn't even the main audience buying a Battlefield game, that isn't bad at all and i'd be glad if it were to get more people into the game but EA went so far to call anyone that disagreed with the decision uneducated.

Some of the bugs are pretty minor but still should have been fixed before release, like the prone bug where it would keep standing you up, and the glitchy bipods that don't always deploy are stuff Dice fixed but were still very annoying.

 

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4 hours ago, Bcat00 said:

I agree EA's done a lot of shitty and crappy things on repeated occasions but i don't think that's why their sales are so poor. 

 

In fact, i think its just people are tired of the sort of games they put out. Honestly, when have you seen them innovate?

 

Blizzard used to be hailed as the golden standard as the gaming industry, and now? Most people I talk to don't even touch their games and don't even mention my nephews and nieces, its all about fortnite and league of legend for them. 

 

Call it a generation gap, the old is done with gaming and moving on with their life and the new (kids) are not interested in what their pops are used to playing. 

 

Perfect example is the MMO genre, it's practically dead aside from WOW

I was hesitating to even touch Overwatch because it looked like a total unplayable clusterfuck in every video. But once you start playing it, it's actually a pretty good game. It's what, like 3 years old now and it looks AMAZING. Some might brush against its cartoony looks, but when you look at reflections, lighting, shading and shadows, it's absurdly detailed. And runs at like 300 billion frames per second.

 

I've also played Warcraft 3 and all StarCraft games, but always single player, never online. And their games have always been amazing, from technical and gameplay aspect.

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Good, let them burn.

 

I can only hope that the IP gets sold off and others can pick up and unfuck everything EA has done in the last few years.


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I'm not too thrilled about Battlefield V.  It seems like the same old game play 20 years ago but nicer graphics. I thought I was getting the full game with RTX card and not paying extra for those add-ons...no way.

 

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It's really not hard to explain why the game didn't sell well.  It was pushed back to November 20th, so it had a smaller window than usual to sell.  And while it wasn't a disaster, it just wasn't good enough to convince people who already had their heart set on Red Dead, Black Ops, Spider-Man or other really well-done titles that were out weeks earlier.  As much as the haters want to fantasize that it's about the social agenda, the reality is much more boring than that.

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48 minutes ago, Trik'Stari said:

Good, let them burn.

 

I can only hope that the IP gets sold off and others can pick up and unfuck everything EA has done in the last few years.

I hope that EA would sell the Battlefield IP, but I wouldn't be surprised if EA killed off the Battlefield franchise since they've been fucking up their games since the rushed launch of BF4 just so they could beat COD and the failure of Hardline which many said should have been a BF4 DLC. And only caring about sales not making games that their consumers want, an example with BF5 is implementing a battle royale mode that most players don't want and is a waste of money that EA could be putting towards fixing the game and adding maps.

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36 minutes ago, Blademaster91 said:

I hope that EA would sell the Battlefield IP, but I wouldn't be surprised if EA killed off the Battlefield franchise since they've been fucking up their games since the rushed launch of BF4 just so they could beat COD and the failure of Hardline which many said should have been a BF4 DLC. And only caring about sales not making games that their consumers want, an example with BF5 is implementing a battle royale mode that most players don't want and is a waste of money that EA could be putting towards fixing the game and adding maps.

It would be so easy to come back from where they are.

 

Revert the classes to exactly the way they were in BFBC2 (support goes back to being assault, medic gets the LMG, engineer is engineer and give the damned mortar binoculars back to the recon class), revert the guns and equipment back to that as well. Maybe keep minor customization options for cosmetic stuff for guns and the soldier you play as, have decent level design.

 

That's really all they need to do. Besides making hardcore with spotting and minimap as the normal mode, and the hardcore mode just turns those off and turns team damage on.

 

Oh. And custom servers. Bring those back.


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2 hours ago, Sauron said:

Honestly, I wouldn't expect anyone but a child to be upset there was a woman in a videogame. If the demographic for battlefield games is exclusively immature sexists then maybe it's time for the franchise to die.

You missed some of what the analogy was illustrating; and just like forgetting a pinch of salt when cooking, even though its a very small thing, ruins the dish completely.

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I hear the stock market is like Battlefield; just a bunch of microtransactions. 


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oh is this wall street again?

 

also, EA, where is my The Sims 5 online? I'm still surprised there isn't a battle royale with them


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5 hours ago, MoonSpot said:

You missed some of what the analogy was illustrating; and just like forgetting a pinch of salt when cooking, even though its a very small thing, ruins the dish completely.

The problem is that the people who didn't want women represent only a tiny fraction of the complaints. The majority of which were asking on exactly what was DICE's direction.

 

Were they going fictional or were they trying to be more faithful to real WWII events? Because if they're going for the latter, there are brilliant real-world examples of female soldiers in the Second World War, many of which are supremely underrated. Barely anyone gave a shit about females in multiplayer. 

 

Their handling of the controversy also left a heap to be desired. 


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