2016-18 MacBook Pros are suffering from "Flexgate"

[Thaldor]

1 hour ago, imreloadin said:

Obviously it's because they're new products are riddled with so many issues nobody wants to buy them so they all just shuffle around with older better built models and that keeps the resale value high.

Fast check from Finnish sites and Macbook Pro Touch bars go for 1000-2500€ (example: 2016 13" 256GB which is already having some display problems: 1400€). On the side note, people are interested about 2009-2010 MBP 13" which costs 40€, SSD and the lid screws are missing and it seems like it's prime days were back when it was bought and after that it has gone to hell and back and forgot it's lunchbox to hell and went to get it back (straight said, it's rubbish and if it wasn't MBP you would need to pay someone to get rid of it).

[Salv8 (sam)]

r/crappydesign

[mr moose]

I wish all manufacturers would stop with this  "excessively thin" business and start making durable products again.  It not healthy for supermodels and it's not healthy for portable devices.

 

3 hours ago, suicidalfranco said:

that's a loophole Apple should close

Non authorised people shouldn't be allowed to resell Macbooks without Apple's explicit consent 

 

I am sure you just forgot the /s

 

[suicidalfranco]

2 minutes ago, mr moose said:

I am sure you just forgot the /s

yes... yes.

 

 

 

i forgot

[mariushm]

Because someone will eventually link to it or other Rossman videos: 

 

 

 

[Trik'Stari]

Just an FYI, in the repair business that's called spotlighting, not "stage lighting".

 

It isn't caused by the cabling, it's caused by an issue internal to the LCD panel itself. I've seen this on hundreds of different laptops from different OEM's (out of the few thousand repairs I've done), I've yet to see a single one where the cable was in any way related. All of them were fixed by replacing the panel itself, not the cable.

 

And this is fairly common across all OEM's as far as I know.

 

I hate to defend apple in any way because I have zero respect for them, but the source is completely inaccurate in blaming the cable. At best, the control board at the bottom of the panel flexes too much and causes this issue, if that were the case, a sturdier cable would actually increase the problem as it would cause the control board to flex more.

 

Chances are the cable "Can't be repaired" because the only way Apple will give you a new cable is by sending out a new panel entirely.

[Curufinwe_wins]

9 minutes ago, Trik'Stari said:

Just an FYI, in the repair business that's called spotlighting, not "stage lighting".

 

It isn't caused by the cabling, it's caused by an issue internal to the LCD panel itself. I've seen this on hundreds of different laptops from different OEM's (out of the few thousand repairs I've done), I've yet to see a single one where the cable was in any way related. All of them were fixed by replacing the panel itself, not the cable.

 

And this is fairly common across all OEM's as far as I know.

 

I hate to defend apple in any way because I have zero respect for them, but the source is completely inaccurate in blaming the cable. At best, the control board at the bottom of the panel flexes too much and causes this issue, if that were the case, a sturdier cable would actually increase the problem as it would cause the control board to flex more.

 

Chances are the cable "Can't be repaired" because the only way Apple will give you a new cable is by sending out a new panel entirely.

Not in a flexure of the cable itself, but Louis Rossman showed a live repair of something very similar like this where he simply reattached (and secured) the display cable. Not sure why the backlight itself is acting differently in this case... but yeah.

 

I can try to find the sauce on that video, but I do distinctly remember it.

[iamdarkyoshi]

 

4 hours ago, firelighter487 said:

rip. i suppose gone are the days of Apple making MacBooks that can still work fine after 8+ years. 

Or after you beat the everliving hell out of them

 



 



 



 

[Nowak]

Form over function strikes again.

[DrMacintosh]

8 minutes ago, Curufinwe_wins said:

Not in a flexure of the cable itself, but Louis Rossman showed a live repair of something very similar like this where he simply reattached (and secured) the display cable. Not sure why the backlight itself is acting differently in this case... but yeah.

 

I can try to find the sauce on that video, but I do distinctly remember it.

Louis cannot repair this defect. The only repair solution is an entire display assembly replacement. 

[DrMacintosh]

22 minutes ago, Trik'Stari said:

I hate to defend apple in any way because I have zero respect for them, but the source is completely inaccurate in blaming the cable. At best, the control board at the bottom of the panel flexes too much and causes this issue, if that were the case, a sturdier cable would actually increase the problem as it would cause the control board to flex more.

 

Chances are the cable "Can't be repaired" because the only way Apple will give you a new cable is by sending out a new panel entirely.

No matter what causes the issue, which everything points to the cable failing, then the result is still a $600 panel replacement. 

[Curufinwe_wins]

14 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

Louis cannot repair this defect. The only repair solution is an entire display assembly replacement. 

I'm not saying he can. I was just mentioning that a somewhat similar thing showed up where part of the connector wasn't connecting properly or something like that.

[The_Big_Grape]

4 hours ago, fasauceome said:

"You're opening it wrong"

Lol

[D13H4RD]

Once again, this is the single shittiest redesign I've seen for the MacBook Pro.

 

Keyboards that don't work after just a few specks of dust and now a display that is likely to fail after a certain number of opening/closing cycles. What's next, burnt-out capacitors?

 

And what is all of this for? A few millimeters in shaved thickness? Get a grip...

[williamcll]

Let's just make the iBook anniversary edition.

[Kamina]

Weird flex but ok.

[Trixanity]

A MacBook should be admired for the beautiful craftsmanship. The display distracts you from the a e s t h e t i c s.

Apple solved it for you.

[GoldenLag]

13 hours ago, mr moose said:

I wish all manufacturers would stop with this  "excessively thin" business and start making durable products again.  It not healthy for supermodels and it's not healthy for portable devices.

its not like the Apple devices are screaming innovation with their thinnes. as to why they do stuff in the sake of making it a mm thinner is beyond me. as the latest steps to making it thinner havent been well received. 

[mr moose]

15 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

its not like the Apple devices are screaming innovation with their thinnes. as to why they do stuff in the sake of making it a mm thinner is beyond me. as the latest steps to making it thinner havent been well received. 

I know right, and it's not just apple that are dong this nor just the pursuit of thinness,  in efforts to make cheaper laptops cheaper they are starting to thin out the amount of metal in the frames resulting in broken screens from too much flex when being opened. . 

[Ashley MLP Fangirl]

1 hour ago, GoldenLag said:

its not like the Apple devices are screaming innovation with their thinnes. as to why they do stuff in the sake of making it a mm thinner is beyond me. as the latest steps to making it thinner havent been well received. 

ikr.. my brick of a 2011 15" MBP is still thin enough for me.. weight is another story but in terms of thickness it's more than fine.

[Linus_torvalds]

18 hours ago, firelighter487 said:

because thinkpads never have issues do they? 

 

oh wait

You could not find faults in new thinkpads and give us link to the 12 year old thinkpad?

They leaned many things after those failures and create much better laptops. T420 is a leggend! Last thinkpad with the best keyboard out of the box. You can replace keyboard for older 7 raw ones in t430/t430s/x230 but starting from *40 models you are stuck with newer keyboards. They are not bad but older are much better.

 

Overall apple had many probems, GPU failures, Lies about unibody macs when in reality they were 2 parts glued together which eventually broke because glue was used where fans blowed hot air. Here is full list. Now go back to your google search and find me this much thinkpad failures. Thing is apple does this intentionally!

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUaJ8pDlxi8

[Ashley MLP Fangirl]

1 minute ago, mate_mate91 said:

You could not find faults in new thinkpads and give us link to the 12 year old thinkpad?

i'm sure i could find a few. i'm just lazy. i googled thinkpad gpu faillue and that's what came up.

[SeraphicWings]

My MBP 15 2017's warranty was over almost a month ago

Reading this isn't gonna be good for my heart

[Ashley MLP Fangirl]

2 minutes ago, SeraphicWings said:

My MBP 15 2017's warranty was over almost a month ago

Reading this isn't gonna be good for my heart

they will probably release a replacement program. either that or they get sued and then release a replacement program

[Linus_torvalds]

18 hours ago, Pascal... said:

Now, I actually don't give a sh*t about Apple but I mean they are the "richest" tech Company in the world but still can't manage to release at least one product that has no flaws. I mean, who are their engineers ? Fricking Geniuses ?

They are richest company not because they have geniuse engineers, but because they have genius marketologists and shameless engineers.