King of Bottlenecks! Intel 9th Gen.

[pas008]

1 hour ago, S w a t s o n said:

wait seriously? I thought intel would just backport the chipsets to 22nm, not just straight up start producing the old designs again. Intel you fucking memers

oops I dont know what happened here double post sry

[Ashley MLP Fangirl]

2 hours ago, Arika S said:

Wtf gigabyte. What a pointless product 

not really. if you want to build a budget system and use an i3 or something it could be a good option.  DDR3 ram is cheap AF... 

[S w a t s o n]

30 minutes ago, pas008 said:

intel? isnt this a gigabyte thing?

this is a gigabyte product but intel was having problem with 14nm capacity and decided to move current chipsets to 22nm. Afaik this board doesn't exist without that decision?

[Yoinkerman]

How quick you guys are to shit on something.  Asrock and ecs used to make lots of crossover boards.  DDR 2 and DDR 3 on the same board, things like that

[gort]

they won't reduce CPU prices but they reduced overall platform cost by adding cheaper, DDR3 memory support... makes sense

 

btw specs below

https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/H310M-DS2V-DDR3-rev-10#sp

[Curufinwe_wins]

4 hours ago, fasauceome said:

Alright I'm gonna be honest, I love this.

 

All the FX holdouts can now throw an i5 8400 and all their current ram into a board and enjoy better IPC and overall performance without breaking the bank.

This. 100%

[cj09beira]

i am already imagining the joy in oem's faces when they find out that this exits, " You mean to tell me we can Save even more money and sell and still claim its a 9900k, Great, order 10000."

[Crunchy Dragon]

4 hours ago, Geography said:

I wonder what overclocking will be like... 

Nonexistent on an H-series chipset.

[Crunchy Dragon]

Just now, cj09beira said:

i am already imagining the joy in oem's faces when they find out that this exits, " You mean to tell me we can Save even more money and sell and still claim its a 9900k, Great, order 10000."

I wouldn't expect anything less from OEMs.

 

It's perfect for them, they get to save money on the system itself by cheaping out on the motherboard and RAM, and still sell it at a high price because 9900K.

[cj09beira]

3 hours ago, RejZoR said:

Fabrication of chipset means nothing. Chipsets are always levels behind CPU fabrication. Also official numbers for RAM are meaningless. X99 has official support up to 2400MHz. But people run way faster RAM on them. I have 2400MHz RAM but at 2666MHz. All fine. As for purpose of using gimped chipset for a top of the line CPU. Well...

true, i had a 1600 cl10 kit of ddr3 running at 2400 cl13

[Crunchy Dragon]

1 hour ago, Yoinkerman said:

How quick you guys are to shit on something.  Asrock and ecs used to make lots of crossover boards.  DDR 2 and DDR 3 on the same board, things like that

Way back in the day, yeah.

 

This was also with sockets that had CPUs that would support both DDR2 and DDR3.

[TempestCatto]

I really can't wait for Linus to build this. Gonna be a helluva video.

[mxk]

This motherboard was made for people who ask if they can use DDR3 on DDR4 motherboards.

[blaze2210]

6 hours ago, Yoinkerman said:

How quick you guys are to shit on something.  Asrock and ecs used to make lots of crossover boards.  DDR 2 and DDR 3 on the same board, things like that

I'd actually been kinda hoping for something like that with DDR3 and DDR4, but I realize it was a long-shot to hope for that.... Companies were just doing weird/interesting things in those days, I guess.... Gigabyte also had their GA-G41M-Combo board which had slots for both DDR2 and DDR3....

[yolosnail]

Why is everybody complaining about this, it's not as if the 9th 'generation' CPUs now only support DRR3!

Surely more choice is a good thing, this thing would be brilliant to drop in one of the lower end CPUs and some of that DDR3 that you have just laying around in a drawer

[Granular]

Err, why is that underscored bit in your post not a link?

And the product page says it only supports 8th gen, not 9th gen, and considering it's an H series chipset ( no overclocking), there's no point in imagining it being paired with a 9900K.

It seems like a reasonable product for people who have a lot of DDR3 on-hand. The cheapest I can find 32GB of DDR4 available is 175 euros. A non-trivial amount for someone who might be ok with a low-to-mid-range CPU, but needs plenty of RAM.

[GoldenLag]

29 minutes ago, Granular said:

there's no point in imagining it being paired with a 9900K.

i dont think you know the line of thought in this forum. offcourse it need to be paired with a 9900k

[leadeater]

19 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

i dont think you know the line of thought in this forum. offcourse it need to be paired with a 9900k

Could be worse, it could have been an X299 motherboard 

[GoldenLag]

3 minutes ago, leadeater said:

Could be worse, it could have been an X299 motherboard 

DDR2 SP3 Socket FTW

[schwellmo92]

I think this a good thing tbh, it is a cheap upgrade path for people with old platforms. And this board only supports up to 8th gen processors not 9th gen. Someone with an old would only need buy one of these motherboard + an 8400 and they would have a very decent rig for almost half the cost of if they had to get DDR4 RAM.

[Amazonsucks]

This when the real bottleneck for most CPUs is a combination of low clocks and low bandwidth per core... ridiculous product.

[Herman Mcpootis]

2 hours ago, Granular said:

Err, why is that underscored bit in your post not a link?

And the product page says it only supports 8th gen, not 9th gen, and considering it's an H series chipset ( no overclocking), there's no point in imagining it being paired with a 9900K.

It seems like a reasonable product for people who have a lot of DDR3 on-hand. The cheapest I can find 32GB of DDR4 available is 175 euros. A non-trivial amount for someone who might be ok with a low-to-mid-range CPU, but needs plenty of RAM.

CPU support page says it's compatible with 9-series CPUs(though surviving after using it is anyone's guess). TBH i'm more surprised it took one of the bigger companies so long to make this, China(and biostar) has had ddr3 H310 boards for months.

[Granular]

32 minutes ago, Herman Mcpootis said:

CPU support page says it's compatible with 9-series CPUs

What CPU support page? Oh, nevermind, found it. And indeed it does.

[Dissitesuxba11s]

Oh boy, why do I have a feeling that there are going to be posts asking if this is a good option to save money on their 9900k build?

[maartendc]

Well look, is DDR3 even that much of a bottleneck on lets say an i5 9600? Or an 8th gen i3 or i5? DDR3 was never a bottleneck on Haswell, and we all know the architectures haven't changed that much at Intel, apart from raising the core count slightly.  Intel CPU's don't rely nearly as heavily on RAM speed as Ryzen CPU's do.

 

So for people wanting to upgrade to a newer CPU, lets say 8th gen or 9th gen i3-i5 and want to keep their old RAM and save $100+, this might not be such a bad idea. Especially if the board is relatively cheap too. Not the route I would go personally, but perhaps for a low-power

 

Of course pairing this with a 9900K would be stupid, but that is not what the product is being sold/ marketed as. it is just technically POSSIBLE.