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How many raditors would it take to get high end components to within 1 degree or less of ambient

20 minutes ago, Enderman said:

No worries man :)

Hopefully that graph I posted on the first page helps you calculate how many radiators you need to get to 1 degree above ambient.

Yea thanks for the chart looks really helpful?

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You need a lot of radiators. E.g. a single Mo-Ra3 420 with 200mm fans can give you water/air delta of ~5°C in games with high end hardware. To get even cooler you need a 2nd Mo-Ra3 ;)

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the only way to get the rad less than ambient without a chiller/aircon is to use a water/alcohol spray on the rad. Works exactly the same as intercooler water spray used on subaru STI in 2002 and you have to use something like Mo-Ra3 with a massive industrial fan running at full blast.

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9 hours ago, A Lini said:

This is theoretical as it would be quite hard to get this to happen but how many rads and fans would it take to get a high end system to ambient by high end I mean 9980XE or 2990WX

You can aim to have liquid temps at ambient, but to get a compenent down to ambient, even at idle, would require below ambient liquid temps, which u cant get using ambient cooling.

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not rads but fans have to multiply :D

 

 

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Have a nice day:)

 

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3 hours ago, SolarNova said:

You can aim to have liquid temps at ambient, but to get a compenent down to ambient, even at idle, would require below ambient liquid temps, which u cant get using ambient cooling.

I know which is why I edited the title to 1 degree or less above ambeint.

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I might add that later but for now I'm just doing extreme water cooling

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On 1/22/2019 at 8:34 AM, Dschijn said:

Dont.

 

That thing is massivly overpriced for what it is. Its speced at up to 3/4 HP.

 

You'd be far better of just getting a cheap Aquarium water chiller.

 

You can get a 2HP chiller for the same price as that Alphacool unit. Granted u would need to buy a seperate pump also, but none the less, a 2HP r22 chiller and pump for a similar price will vastly out perform a 3/4HP r134a chiller.

 

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Couldn't read thread - didn't Jayz 2 Cents do this with a box fan and 4 360mm rads?  Was able to get the GPU's and CPU at like 2 degree under full load above ambient with this massive loop.

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LOL! For a moment there, I think, I almost understood the Radiator Cooling Capacity chart/explanation that Enderman posted. Almost!

At first I thought that <A Lini> was simply "intake-ing" too much medical marijuana (which still might be the case) but as I read on I realized there might actually be a theory here.

Theoretically it is possible to super cool a CPU, but when you use the term ambient it changes everything. It might be easier to just ask if it is possible to get the temperature of a CPU to 1 degree Celsius / 33 Fahrenheit?

At least now I can picture an ice cube sitting on a CPU.  LOL

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Im at work cant link to youtube - just look up Jayz2cents.  Ambient room temp is 21c he keeps his loop of GPU and CPU to 22c -23c max just using a literal box fan, with 4 360mm radiators in tandem (super surprised the Box fan in pull position was able to accomplish this myself).  Not as crazy as it sounds keeping things close to ambient.  In my FX 8350 rig I can keep my chip under full load at 41c on Prime95 and with AIDA64 it runs 36c after 1 hour each of those programs on a 240mm AIO and great air flow.

 

However while my components aren't "high end" that doesn't correlate to heat and dissipation.  My CPU is a 125w CPU, my GPU's double stacked are 130w each (non blower style so swirling air inside case).  What matters here is how many Watts of heat you are trying to dissipate, than we can work to correlate to how many radiators it would take.

 

As far as I am aware, haven't researched it much tbh, is that Radiator companies do not list a thermal dissipation amount on them.

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On 1/23/2019 at 8:34 AM, Mike2001Pro said:

LOL! For a moment there, I think, I almost understood the Radiator Cooling Capacity chart/explanation that Enderman posted. Almost!

At first I thought that <A Lini> was simply "intake-ing" too much medical marijuana (which still might be the case) but as I read on I realized there might actually be a theory here.

Theoretically it is possible to super cool a CPU, but when you use the term ambient it changes everything. It might be easier to just ask if it is possible to get the temperature of a CPU to 1 degree Celsius / 33 Fahrenheit?

At least now I can picture an ice cube sitting on a CPU.  LOL

No I meant within 1 degree celsius or less of the room your in, not 1 degree celsius flat

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