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Is it worth to get NVMe?

Move all your pictures and videos from the boot drive and use it only to install programs.

I have lots of programs, my 250gb ssd still have 80gb left.

Keep my files and games on hdd and important files backedup in clouds.

I'll image the drive once a week, so anything happened i just buy another drive and restore it.

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Posted · Original PosterOP

Hi there,

So I just wanted to upgrade my old 120GB Sandisk SSD, which is like 5-6 years old and I've swapped it from my old laptop to my desktop

I wanted something with better storage capacity and more reliable (than this old and too used SSD), and I looked at the Samsung 970 Evo 512GB for 120 euros

I found a Crucial BX500 500GB (SATA) for 60 euros (I could go for the MX500, which is 77 euros but for the replacement, the cheaper the better), which is half the price and I wonder, would I REALLY benefit from NVMe speeds?

My specs are:

i7 6700K

Z170-E Asus

GTX 1070

I just want to install all my programs there, and be able to dual boot (that's why I wanted a 500GB disk), I don't care about installing games on my HDDs so it won't matter here

Do you REALLY benefit from the speeds or is it just something for people who keep transfering files from one computer to another, etc?

I don't really know anyone with a NVMe on their desktop so I can't tell the difference by myself, any tip, advice, story about this, please tell me

Thanks!

TL;DR: need new SSD, 500GB, NVMe (970 Evo 120€) or SATA (BX/MX500 60-80€)? Real usage? Benefit from speeds other than boot time?

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Samsung SSDs are much more expensive from my experience. You can get a WD Blue SSD with 1TB (SATA, or NVMe) for $135. 

Samsung SSDs are really good, some of the better performing ones on the market; but they are quite expensive.

 

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B073SB2MXT/ - WD Blue m.2 PCIe

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B073SBQMCX/ - WD Blue 2.5" SATA

https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-970-EVO-500GB-MZ-V7E500BW/dp/B07BN4NJ2J/ - Samsung 970 EVO m.2 PCIe

 

Edit: I went with the WD Blue 2.5" for a build I've been working on. It performs on par with the Samsung 860 EVO 2.5" in my main gaming rig, and has double the capacity for roughly $10 more than what I paid for the 860 EVO over a year ago.


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If you don't care about installing on SSD then you should not buy a 500gb.

I would keep the Boot disk as low as possible, so when i back it up, it wont use much space, and if its dead, i won't loose much data.

NVME vs normal sata won't matter much if you don't use high bandiwidth programs like video editing.

Crucial is a good choice.

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11 minutes ago, PacketMan said:

Benefit from speeds other than boot time?

Actually boot time is basically the same on NVMe, so SATA is even more appropriate if that's what you're concerned about.


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11 minutes ago, Eastman51 said:

You can get a WD Blue SSD with 1TB

But I don't really need that much storage, so I'm going for the cheaper and reliable

9 minutes ago, SupaKomputa said:

I would keep the Boot disk as low as possible, so when i back it up, it wont use much space, and if its dead, i won't loose much data.

I use Cloud storage for the important information (certain files, university work, Windows and Linux configuration scripts, etc) so I'm going for the cheap solution right now

But I am concerned about the real storage I'll use, I've used SSDs on my last two laptops (500 and 250 GB) and no problems in particular, I could maybe go for something smaller, heard the A400 is particularly good for the price?

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14 minutes ago, fasauceome said:

Benefit from speeds other than boot time?

NVMe is by far a lot faster than literally anything else.


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Just now, PacketMan said:

But I don't really need that much storage, so I'm going for the cheaper and reliable

I was just putting the price into perspective. The WD Blue 500GB are around $70, which if you think you want NVMe is not a bad premium over the $60 Crucial SATA 500GB. But if you don't think you want/need NVMe, just get the Crucial; they are high quality drives.


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Move all your pictures and videos from the boot drive and use it only to install programs.

I have lots of programs, my 250gb ssd still have 80gb left.

Keep my files and games on hdd and important files backedup in clouds.

I'll image the drive once a week, so anything happened i just buy another drive and restore it.

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Just now, SupaKomputa said:

Move all your pictures and videos from the boot drive and use it only to install programs.

I have lots of programs, my 250gb ssd still have 80gb left.

Keep my files and games on hdd and important files backedup in clouds.

I'll image the drive once a week, so anything happened i just buy another drive and restore it.

Thank you! I'll take a look at the 240GB SSDs and I'll keep my 120GB SSD as a backup disk for the system

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