How will I put this back together??

[nicklmg]

Buy cameras on Amazon: http://geni.us/kxgN2Zw

 

 

[Red :)]

A minute in and my bad idea detector has overheated.

 

 

Also, god damnit @AlexTheGreatish

[r2724r16]

7 minutes ago, nicklmg said:

Buy cameras on Amazon: http://geni.us/kxgN2Zw

It would've been a smart idea to put the name of the camera in the title.

 

But I guess you guys don't really care. Almost all of your titles are clickbait these days.

 

I also gave your video a dislike, just because of that clickbait title 

[Bouzoo]

If you told us in the title what it is, some of us might be interested in watching the video. 

 

For instance:

Quote

How will I put it back together?? - Name of the product

But I suppose that's the point of clickbait. 

 

EDIT: as stated, they changed the name of the video, not the thread. It's all good.

Edited January 19, 2019 by Bouzoo

[Rohith_Kumar_Sp]

someone call Strange Parts and Jerry rig everything, also have no clue what the video is about by the title assumed it's a phone. oh well. 

Edit : The title has been changed, much appreciated. 

[TempestCatto]

For a solid fucking minute, I thought this post was bot spam. It wasn't until I looked at who posted it, and where to, did it occur to me. Maybe it's time to bring back meaningful titles.

[Red :)]

12 minutes ago, Geography said:

It would've been a smart idea to put the name of the camera in the title.

 

But I guess you guys don't really care. Almost all of your titles are clickbait these days.

 

I also gave your video a dislike, just because of that clickbait title 

 

11 minutes ago, Bouzoo said:

If you told us in the title what it is, some of us might be interested in watching the video.

 

11 minutes ago, Rohith_Kumar_Sp said:

 also have no clue what the video is about by the title assumed it's a phone.

 

2 minutes ago, TempestCatto said:

For a solid fucking minute, I thought this post was bot spam. It wasn't until I looked at who posted it, and where to, did it occur to me. Maybe it's time to bring back meaningful titles.

LOL they changed it

[TempestCatto]

I'm trying to watch the video now, it's in HD but the whole video is at like, 10 fps. Why is Google so insistent fucking over LTT? I highly doubt someone fucked up and rendered it wrong, then moved it to the upload machine.

[TempestCatto]

1 minute ago, Red said:

LOL they changed it

The changed the name of the video, not the forum post (at least not yet). I was talking about the forum post itself. Because the last two days there's been quite a bit of bot spam that I've been able to see.

[r2724r16]

6 minutes ago, Red said:

LOL they changed it

Thanks for changing the title guys! We appreciate it!

[SolaLupus]

Will you post any high res photos of the disassembly (iFixit style)?

[Thermosman]

44 minutes ago, nicklmg said:

Buy cameras on Amazon: http://geni.us/kxgN2Zw

 

 

Will there be a part 2?

If not, did you manage to get it back together and/or working?

[Koshekh]

Did you guys try getting in touch with a camera rental house?  Some of them do their own in house repairs so they end up making disassembly guides for everything they rent.  I know Lensrentals, for example, does this for their stuff, they don't publish all of them but if you contacted them they might be willing to send you their internal guide for Red cameras.  Going by some of the tear down articles they've done this seems like a project they'd be into.

[3 Lions]

@LinusTech

 

You seemed to get a little bit panicky as you were taking more and more stuff off it, I know these cameras are expensive and all but if I can give you any advise it would be to relax and slow down. If you panic and rush you are going to mess up trust me I'm studying car maintenance & repair at college, I've been there and worn the t-shirt. 

[Wh0_Am_1]

"Why don't we water cool a camera? Well I couldn't think of a reason not to!" Really? He couldn't think of a reason not to water cool a $20,000 USD Camera...

[Ashley MLP Fangirl]

if all the caps lock keys in the world broke the LTT employee who writes the titles would be the first one to notice it wasn't working. 

[Guest]

Haha I thought this title was for a post on the forum of someone wanting help

[trogdor0]

Wow! Anxiety over expensive RED cameras sure went away quick. I mean, I know you were still sweating, but when you guys got your first RED, I remember a very different attitude about it than the one I see in this video. A couple years ago, I never would have thought you would have dared to disassemble one. I mean...maaaybe to do an out-of-warranty repair, but certainly not to mod one just for the sake of making a video.

 

Disassembling/reassembling cameras is not something I personally would ever attempt without some reference. It took 3 attempts to get my brother's DSLR back together and functional after fixing it a few years ago — that was with comprehensive teardown instructions. I predict you guys will require a couple reassembly attempts minimum (if you even get to the point that the mod is "successful", that is). Good luck, Alex. You're going to need it.

[TempestCatto]

25 minutes ago, trogdor0 said:

Wow! Anxiety over expensive RED cameras sure went away quick. I mean, I know you were still sweating, but when you guys got your first RED, I remember a very different attitude about it than the one I see in this video. A couple years ago, I never would have thought you would have dared to disassemble one. I mean...maaaybe to do an out-of-warranty repair, but certainly not to mod one just for the sake of making a video.

 

Disassembling/reassembling cameras is not something I personally would ever attempt without some reference. It took 3 attempts to get my brother's DSLR back together and functional after fixing it a few years ago — that was with comprehensive teardown instructions. I predict you guys will require a couple reassembly attempts minimum (if you even get to the point that the mod is "successful", that is). Good luck, Alex. You're going to need it.

Nah. They'll just have a Red engineer fly over to do it for them.

[Lurick]

2 minutes ago, TempestCatto said:

Nah. They'll just have a Red engineer fly over to do it for them.

They'll actually just toss it all in a box, toss in a note that say "Whoops. We accident the camera", tape up the box and throw it into the post back to RED

[Egg-Roll]

Minute in and these 2 faces say it all

[ExploringFate]

I say use the CNC Router and 3D print to make custom parts and see if it works for the Red Camera to work with water cooling.

[AndrewSM]

Just made an account to write this. By taking apart the red camera your team has revealed a lot of really interesting stuff I’ve been wondering about for years. As Linus pointed out, no one has really done this before, or at least shared the results online. So why is that important?

 

Because the engineering and software that makes Red cameras so good is pretty mysterious. Maybe not for an engineer at Blackmagic, or Arri that has access to a lot of insider info, but definitely for an engineering hobbyist like me.

 

A lot of the mystery surrounds how well Reds get such good dynamic range and low noise levels. At one point Dx0 gave a Red an insanely high performance score because the noise floor for the Helium sensor appeared unreasonably low. They started to wonder if Red was using some sort of inter-frame noise reduction algorithm.

 

The more relevant question is whether or not Red camera sensors are cooled with Peltiers (thermoelectric cooler) behind the sensor. A camera sensor cooled below ambient temperature has superior dynamic range and lower noise floor. The Arri Alexa and all Blackmagic cameras use peltiers, and I’ve wondered for a while it Reds do too, but I’ve never found a definitive answer online. The video was inconclusive, but I’m sure your team will figure out if it does.

 

So here’s what you need to do for the follow-up video.

 

-Tell us if the Red uses a peltier!

 

-If it doesn’t, ADD A PELTIER! Or if you can’t, just give the sensor excellent cooling. Why? Better performance! At least there’s the possibility of a consistently low noise floor which translates to better dynamic range.  Linus mentioned the only reason you started the project was to make a quieter camera. Sure that makes sense, but I believe one of the main things that contributes to a cinema camera’s vastly superior dynamic range over a DSLR is its sensor cooling system.

 

-If you can get it working again, do detailed dynamic range tests and compare to a vanilla 8K Helium camera. If you can improve the sensor cooling then you could end up with one the best performing cinema cameras ever.

 

I’m interested in the results because I have a theory that as a hobbyist I could mod a cheap mirrorless camera with video functionality like the A7sII or Fujifilm XT3 by adding a peltier and beefy cooling system to get cinema-camera level dynamic range out of it.

 

Linus, share your pictures!

[Razor512]

It is a rather poor design when they make it difficult to take apart enough to at least get access to the heatsink fins.

 

With higher density fins, it is important to be able to at least clean out the dust, especially since these cameras will be used in a wide range of locations.

[Roohi]

I find it really educating to see the shots Linus made of the process of taking the camera apart. Particularly I'm interested in seeing what FPGAs have been used and the overall structure of the system. By the way, I'm an Electronics engineer and I can learn many things from this.