iPhone 11 rumors: 4,000mAh battery, 120Hz display, faster wireless charging, more

[schwellmo92]

iPhone's are already pretty buttery smooth I think 120Hz is a waste, I could probably be convinced with a 90Hz display but 120Hz is stupid IMO (note: I've had high refresh rate monitors/laptops for years from 120-240Hz - I know what they're like).

[GoldenLag]

90hz Oled with variable refresh would be nice.

 

Im sort of doubting they got 120hz working on the panel. 

[dgsddfgdfhgs]

14 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

90hz Oled with variable refresh would be nice.

 

Im sort of doubting they got 120hz working on the panel. 

not going to happen, apples lags 2 years behind at least. (eg. wireless charge/ oled/ nfc and much more)

what could you do on just a phone with high refresh rate?

[RejZoR]

17 minutes ago, dgsddfgdfhgs said:

not going to happen, apples lags 2 years behind at least. (eg. wireless charge/ oled/ nfc and much more)

what could you do on just a phone with high refresh rate?

Which is just a very baffling thing from a company that constantly hypes their innovation and technological superiority. And then they lack features that others had for like 5+ years already...

[NeuesTestament]

1 hour ago, dgsddfgdfhgs said:

not going to happen, apples lags 2 years behind at least. (eg. wireless charge/ oled/ nfc and much more)

what could you do on just a phone with high refresh rate?

And about 2 years ahead when it comes to Processing power.

[Drak3]

9 minutes ago, NeuesTestament said:

And about 2 years ahead when it comes to Processing power.

According to benchmarks. But here's the thing, without some type of common platform between iPhone and Android to benchmark (meaning iOS on Snapdragon or Android on A series, all features enabled and running well), those benchmarks are not a reliable way to compare iPhones to other phones.

[GoldenLag]

1 hour ago, dgsddfgdfhgs said:

not going to happen, apples lags 2 years behind at least. (eg. wireless charge/ oled/ nfc and much more)

what could you do on just a phone with high refresh rate?

We do have 90hz Oled from Asus on the ROG phone. 

 

A variable refresh phone would make it noticably smoother to use. But Apple would probably stick to another year of regular 60hz OLED before touching.

 

Then market it as Fluid Retina because it sounds fancy

[Curufinwe_wins]

4 hours ago, DrMacintosh said:

Sure under max load, but hardly anything you do on an iPhone will even make the A12 switch away from its low power cores. 

Of course... but the idea is still valid. Even if Apple somehow can keep stretching efficiency to crazy limits, power draw is going to increase along with performance.

[ZacoAttaco]

The 120Hz rumour could be a big deal. iOS is already regarded as a fairly responsive operating system, at 120Hz it could potentially feel far more responsive than any of it's main competition, provided Google, Samsung and LG don't release products with a similar screen refresh rate.

 

Reviewers would speak positively of the responsiveness, I know Linus would enjoy it as he wanted Apple to take that same display from the iPad Pro and put it in a mobile device. That good press would lead to improved sales and it could be a big success for Apple.

 

All this has to be taken with a grain of salt of course, that's just my two cents on what a 120Hz display on an iPhone could mean.

 

Also, was searching for some S10 rumours, apparently it's likely to have in-screen fingerprint scanner, a feature I wish would return to the iPhone. Although the fingerprint scanner won't work if you have a screen protector, makes sense.

https://www.techradar.com/au/news/samsung-galaxy-s10-in-display-fingerprint-scanner-reportedly-blocked-by-screen-cover

[Dabombinable]

And what games or apps would ever take advantage of a 120fps screen on an iPhone? As it is some devs have to limit the frame rate to 30 on current models to prevent the device from getting too hot.

[ZacoAttaco]

13 minutes ago, Dabombinable said:

And what games or apps would ever take advantage of a 120fps screen on an iPhone? As it is some devs have to limit the frame rate to 30 on current models to prevent the device from getting too hot.

I heard Blizzard wants to use mobile devices for a new Diablo experience, maybe that will?

 

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Personally, I wouldn't be concerned about games running at 120fps, just the fluidity of the device will make it a worthy inclusion.

[mynameisjuan]

6 hours ago, Noctus said:

Probably something like $2199. S10+ is nearly 2grand at it's max specs, apple can't be out shined by the heathen android

 

/s

S10+ is rumored at $1300 max. Still less than the XS max. Other companies I think had their eyes opened with sales and the phones released this year will either stay at current prices or drop a bit. Apple however just will sell for more.

[schwellmo92]

2 hours ago, Drak3 said:

According to benchmarks. But here's the thing, without some type of common platform between iPhone and Android to benchmark (meaning iOS on Snapdragon or Android on A series, all features enabled and running well), those benchmarks are not a reliable way to compare iPhones to other phones.

How are they not a reliable way of measuring performance? Run some calculation on one phone, run the same calculations on the other, determine which one calculated faster, and the same for rendering.

[mynameisjuan]

3 minutes ago, schwellmo92 said:

How are they not a reliable way of measuring performance? Run some calculation on one phone, run the same calculations on the other, determine which one calculated faster, and the same for rendering.

Gary from Android authority made a benchmark for Android and I think he working on it for iOS too. The benchmark is more focused on raw performance of the device. 

 

But again, bench marking on phones is not similar to benchmarking PCs. People run snap, insta, facebook, messages, etc....None of these apps are taxing nor take advantage of the hardware in the phone so it doesnt indicate real world usage. The S9 was the first android that is more responsive and can load apps faster that the X.

[Drak3]

11 minutes ago, schwellmo92 said:

Run some calculation on one phone, run the same calculations on the other, determine which one calculated faster, and the same for rendering.

Except basic calculations don't represent real world performance well.

See AMD cards, they perform worse in gaming despite being better at basic number crunching.

Or ARM vs x86 benchmarks.

 

And complex algorithms need to be cross checked to verify that they are reliable and repeatable across different platforms.

 

There is no common ground between iPhones and Android phones that allow us to get benchmarks where scores are verifiably comparible.

[Trixanity]

I guess it's an Apple thing that their 15W is faster than everyone else's 15W.

Otherwise "...15W surpassing anything in Android" is false but Apple would never do that.

[bcredeur97]

6 hours ago, DrMacintosh said:

Sure under max load, but hardly anything you do on an iPhone will even make the A12 switch away from its low power cores. 

this is a problem tho. If you never utilize the hardware to it's fullest potential -- then why buy new hardware every year?

 

just have the battery replaced yearly and be on your way...

[79wjd]

7 hours ago, mynameisjuan said:

+$$$ for 120hz controller

+$$$$ for 4000mah

+$ usb-c....$.75...fuck it $50 to implement

+$$$$ for another camera

 

Jesus fuck, this thing will start at $2,000 because Apples logic to lower sales is increase prices.

Increasing prices for declining sales is the right move if sales are mainly declining because advancements are slow and most people have something good enough and don't need to upgrade. Which is all probably true.

 

Yes, the price certainly will have pushed away some, but I'd bet that most people who didn't upgrade aren't doing so because what they have is more than good enough.

[GoldenLag]

45 minutes ago, Trixanity said:

I guess it's an Apple thing that their 15W is faster than everyone else's 15W.

Otherwise "...15W surpassing anything in Android" is false but Apple would never do that.

Indeed, Apple wouldnt do that. 

 

Their fans would happily do so instead.

[Sauron]

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Sketchy new reports from Chinese website Weibo claim to offer up some interesting new tidbits regarding Apple’s upcoming iPhone 11

This sounds like the rumors we'd constantly get about transparent displays and holograms every year... if it's true that's cool I guess, although if they keep going in their current direction the next iphone will start at 1200$.

[shermantanker]

These leaks seem reasonable, but i think the battery is a little big for apple. But putting that big of a battery on the max would let them crank up the CPU a lot higher.

[Doobeedoo]

For new flagships 4000mAh battery minimum and 120Hz would be awesome. Slowly everything being 120Hz as standard will be great. 

[dizmo]

12 hours ago, mxk. said:

Thing is, that it's probably somewhat accurate, but do we care? I sure don't.

I just can't see them upping battery size to that degree. It'd mean a thicker or heavier device. They seem to be horribly opposed to such things.

[mxk]

33 minutes ago, dizmo said:

I just can't see them upping battery size to that degree. It'd mean a thicker or heavier device. They seem to be horribly opposed to such things.

the xs max is already pretty heavy. I thought my huawei mate 10 lite was heavy, then I held the xs max. It's crazy.

[dizmo]

4 minutes ago, mxk. said:

the xs max is already pretty heavy. I thought my huawei mate 10 lite was heavy, then I held the xs max. It's crazy.

Yeah that stainless steel adds a toll for sure. They should have just gone with titanium for what they're charging.