Ford's New Electric Truck!

[SuperCooling87]

According to CNN, Ford is poised to release a hybrid AND all-electric version to their ever-popular F-150 truck lineup. It is unclear what the cost will be, as well as the individual specs. According to CNN, "Ford had previously announced it would make a hybrid version of the F-150. The all-electric truck would be in addition to that." In addition to these new vehicles, Ford also plans to add electric options for their transit vans, according to reports. What do you guys think? I feel like the instant torque of electric could be nice, but in practical use may prove to be more challenging. Also, I feel like Ford's truck demographic may not be as excited about electric vehicles as some other markets.

 

 

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[Dissitesuxba11s]

A good thing from this is that electric motors output a lot of torque which is needed for a truck. Hopefully it has a large battery because if someone plans to haul something with it it might drain the battery like it was nothing.

[MarbleHornets]

The hybrid variant sounds a lot more interesting, providing high torque right away then using gas to keep it going long distances, plus being able to charge the electric motor away from a plug. Plus Ford says with its electric power train, you'll be able to plug in power tools to be able to use as well. But I guess we'll have to wait a few years to see what actually becomes reality. 

[Belgarathian]

10 minutes ago, MarbleHornets said:

The hybrid variant sounds a lot more interesting, providing high torque right away then using gas to keep it going long distances, plus being able to charge the electric motor away from a plug. Plus Ford says with its electric power train, you'll be able to plug in power tools to be able to use as well. But I guess we'll have to wait a few years to see what actually becomes reality. 

The other benefit would be the ability to use the battery to power tools and equipment through 240v plugs above and beyond what a standard ICE with alternator would be able to.

[Syntaxvgm]

Can I replace the truckbed with a giant battery? 

[Brooksie359]

6 minutes ago, Syntaxvgm said:

Can I replace the truckbed with a giant battery? 

Who ever said it didn't have that standard? 

[Syntaxvgm]

6 hours ago, Brooksie359 said:

Who ever said it didn't have that standard? 

I want a battery so big that the fire would be seen from 5 miles away if it got punctured in a wreck. 

[paddy-stone]

2 minutes ago, Syntaxvgm said:

I want a batter so big that the fire would be seen from 5 miles away if it got punctured in a wreck. 

LOL - well by that time I'm hopeful that the new lithium batteries that are supposed to come out will be here, they supposedly aren't susceptible to explode and catch fire like the current tech.

[Curufinwe_wins]

That's interesting... lots of benefits, but some serious safety concerns as well.

[PlayStation 2]

if it helps in keeping these f150s off of the side of the road because they need repairs, I'm down

[Syntaxvgm]

1 minute ago, handymanshandle said:

if it helps in keeping these f150s off of the side of the road because they need repairs, I'm down

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[PlayStation 2]

Just now, Syntaxvgm said:

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[Curufinwe_wins]

8 minutes ago, paddy-stone said:

LOL - well by that time I'm hopeful that the new lithium batteries that are supposed to come out will be here, they supposedly aren't susceptible to explode and catch fire like the current tech.

Unlikely. And even if they themselves didn't explode, the high voltage is still a dramatic energy/fire source for other things in the car to explode and/or start on fire.

[paddy-stone]

5 minutes ago, Curufinwe_wins said:

Unlikely. And even if they themselves didn't explode, the high voltage is still a dramatic energy/fire source for other things in the car to explode and/or start on fire.

IIRC, the gel that they were saying would be used in the batteries would be fire retardant... but I could be mis-remembering it I guess?

 

[edit] Yeah I must have gotten 2 things mixed-up maybe for the gel thing... these use glass cells  https://news.utexas.edu/2017/02/28/goodenough-introduces-new-battery-technology/

[Blasteque]

1 hour ago, SuperCooling87 said:

 Also, I feel like Ford's truck demographic may not be as excited about electric vehicles as some other markets.

Yes.  

 

Back when I worked residential construction, there were Fords (F-150, 250s, 350s,etc.) all over the job site and not one of those people would be caught dead with an EV (my employer used Dodge trucks, not that Dodge owners would be much different).  Although it seems like most F-150 owners don't actually use them for work anyway (if what I see during my commute is any indication). 

 

However, if the EV version were branded as the new Lightning and was made relatively fast, it could sell quite well.

[Curufinwe_wins]

21 minutes ago, Blasteque said:

Yes.  

 

Back when I worked residential construction, there were Fords (F-150, 250s, 350s,etc.) all over the job site and not one of those people would be caught dead with an EV (my employer used Dodge trucks, not that Dodge owners would be much different).  Although it seems like most F-150 owners don't actually use them for work anyway (if what I see during my commute is any indication). 

 

However, if the EV version were branded as the new Lightning and was made relatively fast, it could sell quite well.

Or if they were usable as on-site generators... Having worked construction myself, I think there is a decent sub-portion that would love a hybrid for that purpose.

 

Pure EV though would be a non-starter.

[Tristerin]

47 minutes ago, Syntaxvgm said:

I want a batter so big that the fire would be seen from 5 miles away if it got punctured in a wreck. 

I work in the Titanium industry and Tesla was having issues when getting in accidents with trucks having a rear ball (they rear end a truck) and the ball would puncture the battery box and Kablooey.

 

I spent 2 weeks fixing deviant titanium sheets and supplying them with the new protective titanium boxes...2014 if I recall correctly

[BuckGup]

Instant torque and the truck weighs 3X as much. Sounds good

[ravenshrike]

1 hour ago, Syntaxvgm said:

Can I replace the truckbed with a giant battery? 

Be interesting if for the long bed option you could install additional battery capacity that would bring the size of the cargo bed back to the short bed.

[Lady Fitzgerald]

2 hours ago, handymanshandle said:

if it helps in keeping these f150s off of the side of the road because they need repairs, I'm down

Curious. I have an '08 F150 Screw that has almost 60k miles on it and has never been in the shop. I had two Rangers that never needed any repairs. I bought a used '71 LTD wagon that gave me excellent service for the time I had it. My Daddy's '66 F100 went well over 100k miles without any major repairs. His '62 Galaxy went over 120k without any major repairs. I don't recall seeing any F150s on the side of the road (and I have done a lot of traveling).

 

So, what's your issue with F150s?

[Drak3]

The next logical evolution in the EcoBust saga, the EV Fucked Over Rebuilt Dodge.

[handymanshandle]

4 hours ago, handymanshandle said:

if it helps in keeping these f150s off of the side of the road because they need repairs, I'm down

nah now it'll be F150s on the side of the road with battery fires.

[handymanshandle]

2 hours ago, Lady Fitzgerald said:

Curious. I have an '08 F150 Screw that has almost 60k miles on it and has never been in the shop. I had two Rangers that never needed any repairs. I bought a used '71 LTD wagon that gave me excellent service for the time I had it. My Daddy's '66 F100 went well over 100k miles without any major repairs. His '62 Galaxy went over 120k without any major repairs. I don't recall seeing any F150s on the side of the road (and I have done a lot of traveling).

 

So, what's your issue with F150s?

You're just lucky, but as Im sure you're aware Ford has two acronyms
"Found On the Road Dead" or "Fix Or Repair Daily"
That's why you get a RAM or a Toyota or a Chevy

[dalekphalm]

5 hours ago, SuperCooling87 said:

According to CNN, Ford is poised to release a hybrid AND all-electric version to their ever-popular F-150 truck lineup. It is unclear what the cost will be, as well as the individual specs. According to CNN, "Ford had previously announced it would make a hybrid version of the F-150. The all-electric truck would be in addition to that." In addition to these new vehicles, Ford also plans to add electric options for their transit vans, according to reports. What do you guys think? I feel like the instant torque of electric could be nice, but in practical use may prove to be more challenging. Also, I feel like Ford's truck demographic may not be as excited about electric vehicles as some other markets.

 

 

https://amp-cnn-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/01/17/business/electric-ford-f-150/index.html?amp_js_v=0.1#referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From %1%24s&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cnn.com%2F2019%2F01%2F17%2Fbusiness%2Felectric-ford-f-150%2Findex.html

Considering that the F-150 has been the number one selling vehicle in North America for ages, this is a no-brainer move by Ford.

 

Sure there'll be gear heads that hold out - but most people? Once they try an electric and understand how it can meet their needs? People will be quick enough to adopt, assuming the price isn't a barrier.

 

Ultimately we need an Electric version that costs the exact same as the Gasoline version (with comparable Trim level).

 

So if I'm shopping for a Honda Civic, for example, ideally I could buy an EV version for the same price as the gasoline version.

[Drak3]

8 minutes ago, pinksnowbirdie said:

Ford has two acronyms
"Found On the Road Dead" or "Fix Or Repair Daily"

Fucked Over Rebuilt Dodge.

 

 

That one is rather old.