Regular PC freezing and crashing

[i360o]

Hi,

Since early December ive been getting various freezes and BSODs. Ive been trying to troubleshoot the issue with a tech-expert but neither he knows what to do. 

The error logs seem vague or empty and ive changed my power source to a 700W from a 500W. My Windows ( Cracked ) and BIOS are up to date and i've done a Memory Diagnostic, a CHKDSK and a windows checker to see if my windows is corrupted, but nothing. I hope some of you can help me and ill provide any additional info needed. Nevertheless here are my specs:

 

Motherboard: MSI A320M PRO-VD PLUS

CPU: AMD R7 1700x

Cooler CPU: Deepcool GAMMAXX 300

GPU: Radeon RX 570 Sapphire Pulse 4 GB

RAM: 8x1 GB HyperX

PSU: 700W Sirtec High Power Element BRONZE II 

 

I do regular scans with both Malwarebytes AND ESET and still nothing.

Anyway have a nice day!

[narrdarr]

are you OC anything?

what is the BSOD error?

have you ran fsc /scannow?

[i360o]

31 minutes ago, narrdarr said:

are you OC anything?

what is the BSOD error?

have you ran fsc /scannow?

Hey thanks for responding,

If you mean sfc ive done one.

I had various BSOD errors, the latest being 'MEMORY MANAGMENT'

Im not overclocking anything and not planning to do it

Ive also noticed a trend that i keep getting error when Chrome is rolling ( Ethernet cable is pumping data ).

 

 

[Origami Cactus]

That cpu with that motherboard... ouch

Have you disabled AMD core enchancement turbo in the bios?-

[i360o]

Just now, Origami Cactus said:

That cpu with that motherboard... ouch

Have you disabled AMD core enchancement turbo in the bios?-

yeah i cheaped out on the MB,

Ill check if AMD core enhancement turbo is disabled in the bios tho

thx

[Fasauceome]

The power delivery of the motherboard could be insufficient, leading to CPU instability. A320 is generally pretty trash, a new motherboard would be a good upgrade.

[Origami Cactus]

Just now, i360o said:

yeah i cheaped out on the MB,

Ill check if AMD core enhancement turbo is disabled in the bios tho

thx

MY theory is that the cpu auto overclocking feature (core enchancement whatever) is causing the system to be unstable and crash.´Because it spikes up the cpu speeds and voltages to insane levels for a few splitseconds, and maybe the mobo can't upkeep that behavior.

[narrdarr]

what is the model of ram you are using?

is it running at the correct voltage in the bios

 

just double checking:

bios update?

drivers installed?

1. chipset
2. lan driver
3. Gpu driver

make sure all power connectors are connect securely

[2SidedPolygon]

5 minutes ago, Origami Cactus said:

MY theory is that the cpu auto overclocking feature (core enchancement whatever) is causing the system to be unstable and crash.´Because it spikes up the cpu speeds and voltages to insane levels for a few splitseconds, and maybe the mobo can't upkeep that behavior.

A320 can't overclock?

[Origami Cactus]

Just now, 2SidedPolygon said:

A320 can't overclock?

Yeah it isn't technically overclocking, it is the cpu auto turbo, but it can be a bit dumb at times. 

[i360o]

3 minutes ago, Origami Cactus said:

MY theory is that the cpu auto overclocking feature (core enchancement whatever) is causing the system to be unstable and crash.´Because it spikes up the cpu speeds and voltages to insane levels for a few splitseconds, and maybe the mobo can't upkeep that behavior.

 

Just now, narrdarr said:

what is the model of ram you are using?

is it running at the correct voltage in the bios

 

just double checking:

bios update?

drivers installed?

1. chipset
2. lan driver
3. Gpu driver

make sure all power connectors are connect securely

Updated all the drivers and bios ( Click Bios 5 )on the motherboard page recently including the lan driver. 

the power connectors on all devices are attached securely as far as they can go.

Heres the RAM link on the website i have bought it from:

https://www.pcgarage.ro/memorii/hyperx/fury-black-8gb-ddr4-2400mhz-cl15-12v/

ill check the RAM voltage to see if its running at stock

[2SidedPolygon]

2 minutes ago, Origami Cactus said:

Yeah it isn't technically overclocking, it is the cpu auto turbo, but it can be a bit dumb at times. 

Ah, Turbo Boost, that makes more sense. Yeah, it's definitely likely with a crap VRM. This is a new issue though, right? So it'd be kind of odd. A fan over the VRM would be a good thing to test.

[i360o]

1 minute ago, Origami Cactus said:

Yeah it isn't technically overclocking, it is the cpu auto turbo, but it can be a bit dumb at times. 

um i spent a bit looking in the msi bios ( click 5 ) and i couldnt find the auto turbo option.

Perhaps you know where it may be located in?

[Origami Cactus]

1 minute ago, i360o said:

um i spent a bit looking in the msi bios ( click 5 ) and i couldnt find the auto turbo option.

Perhaps you know where it may be located in?

Can you click f7  (or was it f9?) and go into the advanced msi bios?

There you go to the cpu category, and you should find it.

 

[i360o]

4 minutes ago, Origami Cactus said:

Can you click f7  (or was it f9?) and go into the advanced msi bios?

There you go to the cpu category, and you should find it.

 

I found core peformance boost but its set to auto and locked

[i360o]

4 minutes ago, i360o said:

I found core peformance boost but its set to auto and locked

In task manager the cpu frequency varies below 3.4 GHz Stock (Max Low ~ 2.8 GHz)

[Origami Cactus]

8 minutes ago, i360o said:

I found core peformance boost but its set to auto and locked

okay. It should be disableable, but i dont know why it is locked.

Have you tried windows clean install? Maybe try a legit windows, but just leave it unactivated.

Have you tried reseating the memory? Maybe use a different memory slot.

[i360o]

3 minutes ago, Origami Cactus said:

okay. It should be disableable, but i dont know why it is locked.

Have you tried windows clean install? Maybe try a legit windows, but just leave it unactivated.

Have you tried reseating the memory? Maybe use a different memory slot.

i have a legit windows copy on an SSD so i will do so

Ill google the auto performance boost thingy

Ill also try a different memory slot

[i360o]

3 minutes ago, Origami Cactus said:

okay. It should be disableable, but i dont know why it is locked.

Have you tried windows clean install? Maybe try a legit windows, but just leave it unactivated.

Have you tried reseating the memory? Maybe use a different memory slot.

This guy says it can't be disabled independent from XFR so i will activate it to see if that lets me mess with it

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/answers/id-3611262/ryzen-core-performance-boost.html

 

[Origami Cactus]

2 minutes ago, i360o said:

This guy says it can't be disabled independent from XFR so i will activate it to see if that lets me mess with it

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/answers/id-3611262/ryzen-core-performance-boost.html

 

on my msi motherboard i can disable it. But yeah look around in bios-

[i360o]

3 minutes ago, Origami Cactus said:

on my msi motherboard i can disable it. But yeah look around in bios-

ok so i set the frequency ratio to auto from 34 back to Auto ( I modified it before trying to solve the issue ) and it let me change the turbo thing to disabled. 

Should i now wait to see if it crashes again?

Also disabled XFR to see if the memory profile has to do anything with it

 

[i360o]

41 minutes ago, 2SidedPolygon said:

Ah, Turbo Boost, that makes more sense. Yeah, it's definitely likely with a crap VRM. This is a new issue though, right? So it'd be kind of odd. A fan over the VRM would be a good thing to test.

my tech-expert told me a good power supply can act as a fail-safe for the mosfets capacitors and chokes i think. He told me mine is pretty decent. I just wonder if thats correct or a potential issue

[2SidedPolygon]

23 minutes ago, i360o said:

my tech-expert told me a good power supply can act as a fail-safe for the mosfets capacitors and chokes i think. He told me mine is pretty decent. I just wonder if thats correct or a potential issue

Fail-safe? Yeah, I don't have a clue what he's getting at. Just try some active cooling over the VRM and see if it helps.

[i360o]

11 minutes ago, 2SidedPolygon said:

Fail-safe? Yeah, I don't have a clue what he's getting at. Just try some active cooling over the VRM and see if it helps.

hmm ill it doesn't have a thermometer inside does it?

It seems to be a fairly forgotten component based on the videos i watched so i dont think so

[2SidedPolygon]

10 minutes ago, i360o said:

hmm ill it doesn't have a thermometer inside does it?

It seems to be a fairly forgotten component based on the videos i watched so i dont think so

Your mileage with VRM temp readouts will vary. The only way to really know is to do the Buildzoid method and and get a temperature readout from the bottom of the PCB. You don't actually need to know the temps, though, just if cooling things down fixes the issue.