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Should I buy i9 9900k for future proof.

It depends. If you are mainly playing games, then no, get a 8700K or wait for 9700K or something, it's coming. Or get an AMD, it's cheaper and you can use the excess cash that you would have spent on 9900K and get a new CPU. AM4 is a new platform and AMD will keep supporting it down the road. 9900K just doesn't deliver a great value and efficiency. Future-proofing is a joke

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Just now, Sabir said:

Should I buy i9 9900k for future proof? So I can have more fps and long last gaming.. 

Yes, for long last gaming.  


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I guess it would depend on how long you want the cpu to last. I didn't buy the 9900k because there is no situation where the 8700k wouldn't preform identical for my use case. That and I tend to upgrade or build pcs quite often. I enjoy hardware so the thought of not changing the cpu for 5 years just doesn't seem fun to me. 

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It depends. If you are mainly playing games, then no, get a 8700K or wait for 9700K or something, it's coming. Or get an AMD, it's cheaper and you can use the excess cash that you would have spent on 9900K and get a new CPU. AM4 is a new platform and AMD will keep supporting it down the road. 9900K just doesn't deliver a great value and efficiency. Future-proofing is a joke

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No. Wait for Zen 2 at Q2/Q3.

If you have to build it now, get an AM4 motherboard and a 2600 (or 2700X if you need a lot of computing power now).


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Just now, NunoLava1998 said:

No. Wait for Zen 2 at Q2/Q3.

If you have to build it now, get an AM4 motherboard and a 2600 (or 2700X if you need a lot of computing power now).

Yea, Intel is dead. Buy Intel if you like wasting money. Buy AMD if you value value ?


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6 minutes ago, charbel1011 said:

Why? lol

According to Cinebench, AdoredTV and many other sources, AMD's upcoming Zen 2 has a Ryzen 3, 5, 7 and 9 line. The Ryzen 5 line is already somewhat better than the 9900K. It's 179$. And it's also 65W.


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CPU: AMD Athlon X4 860K 3.7GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($72.99 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($168.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-F2A88XM-D3H Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard  ($62.99 @ NCIX US) 
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Storage: Hitachi Ultrastar He8 8TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($479.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 960 2GB SuperSC ACX 2.0+ Video Card  ($179.99 @ NCIX US) 
Case: Lian-Li PC-V2130WX ATX Full Tower Case  ($499.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: EVGA 430W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply  ($23.98 @ Newegg) 
Total: $1745.91
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Just now, charbel1011 said:

Why? lol

Not really true, but AMD is just doing better at price/performance at the moment and the new gen CPUs will be even better and hopefully priced well, as well. You could buy the 9900k for "futureproof," but why would you?


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11 minutes ago, NunoLava1998 said:

he Ryzen 5 line is already somewhat better than the 9900K. It's 179$. And it's also 65W.

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The i9 9900k is a great CPU, but for being $500+ and requiring a cooler, It's really not worth it unless you need something that is good for productivity and high refresh rate gaming, 

 

Just as all intel CPU's it has great single core performance, but...

 

If the leaks are true and the new ryzen 5's perform as well or better than the i9 it will definitely be hard for Intel to keep up


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34 minutes ago, GenisysVN said:

It depends. If you are mainly playing games, then no, get a 8700K or wait for 9700K or something, it's coming. Or get an AMD, it's cheaper and you can use the excess cash that you would have spent on 9900K and get a new CPU. AM4 is a new platform and AMD will keep supporting it down the road. 9900K just doesn't deliver a great value and efficiency. Future-proofing is a joke

no it isnt dont speak about what you dont know, and spreading wrong information.

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1 minute ago, Earnist_ said:

no it isnt dont speak about what you dont know, and spreading wrong information.

I mean he isn't entirely wrong, the 8700k/9700k are 6c/12t and 8c/8t respectively and perform around the same in games

 

But he is correct about AM4 being a better platform for future-proofing

 

As well as spending the extra $$$ you save on maybe not a new CPU but a new GPU i would say

 

The 2700x performs within good margin of the i9 9900k in all but 144hz gaming, 

 

I've tested this for myself (I used to work at fry's electronics and had unlimited access to all the hardware and we built demo machines)

 

a 2700x overclocked to 4.3 Ghz, vs an i9 9900k@ 5Ghz all cores the i9 9900k always performed better, But the fact that the 2700x ended up being so much cheaper, you can either get around the same performance for less or to be honest spending the extra money you saved on a 1080 ti instead of a 1080 also seemed to be an option.

 

I used to be a die-hard Intel fan due to being a high refresh rate gamer (1080p-144hz) and the CPU's at the time i.e 9590 even HEAVILY overclocked under extreme cooling couldn't match Intel on moderate OC's 

 

But  Ryzen has been great value, and i have no need to go over 144 fps so single core performance is already good enough on all main stream CPU's, even for high refresh rate gaming.

 

As for OP, I would definitely recommend going AM4 with a nice x470 board, you can spend the money you saved on getting other parts in the system, however if you are trying to just build the fastest gaming PC money can buy, i would still go with the 9900k, but looking at Intel's track record  you probably won't be able to upgrade the CPU without buying an entirely new MOBO by the time it comes to upgrade.

 

 

 


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22 hours ago, Emanbaird said:

I mean he isn't entirely wrong, the 8700k/9700k are 6c/12t and 8c/8t respectively and perform around the same in games

 

But he is correct about AM4 being a better platform for future-proofing

 

As well as spending the extra $$$ you save on maybe not a new CPU but a new GPU i would say

 

The 2700x performs within good margin of the i9 9900k in all but 144hz gaming, 

 

I've tested this for myself (I used to work at fry's electronics and had unlimited access to all the hardware and we built demo machines)

 

a 2700x overclocked to 4.3 Ghz, vs an i9 9900k@ 5Ghz all cores the i9 9900k always performed better, But the fact that the 2700x ended up being so much cheaper, you can either get around the same performance for less or to be honest spending the extra money you saved on a 1080 ti instead of a 1080 also seemed to be an option.

 

I used to be a die-hard Intel fan due to being a high refresh rate gamer (1080p-144hz) and the CPU's at the time i.e 9590 even HEAVILY overclocked under extreme cooling couldn't match Intel on moderate OC's 

 

But  Ryzen has been great value, and i have no need to go over 144 fps so single core performance is already good enough on all main stream CPU's, even for high refresh rate gaming.

 

As for OP, I would definitely recommend going AM4 with a nice x470 board, you can spend the money you saved on getting other parts in the system, however if you are trying to just build the fastest gaming PC money can buy, i would still go with the 9900k, but looking at Intel's track record  you probably won't be able to upgrade the CPU without buying an entirely new MOBO by the time it comes to upgrade.

 

 

 

the am4 socket is losing support in 2020 so next year amd is making a new socket after zen 2 has gone over its 1 year life cycle

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7 hours ago, Earnist_ said:

the am4 socket is losing support in 2020 so next year amd is making a new socket after zen 2 has gone over its 1 year life cycle

Yeah I gotta say that you are kinda just making stuff up. They said they would support AM4 until 2020 and never once said anything other than that. You are just making some assumptions right now. 

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On 1/14/2019 at 5:41 AM, Sabir said:

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7nm zen 2 is gonna be pretty future-proof, it's pushing the physical limits of current manufacturing process. so 8 or 16 core of that and you are set, 9900k will be a bit slower than zen 2 it seems like.


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On 1/14/2019 at 2:41 PM, Sabir said:

Should I buy i9 9900k for future proof? So I can have more fps and long last gaming.. 

No, because in a couple of weeks/months, AMD will come with a cheaper mid range CPU that might rape the 9900K for like half the price with about the same performance or double the cores for the same price...

 

So I'd rather look at the other side, get a good, very common board that probably will get Updated and use that.

 

Depending on what you have, it might make sense to hold out another 6 Months or so...


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5 hours ago, Stefan Payne said:

No, because in a couple of weeks/months, AMD will come with a cheaper mid range CPU that might rape the 9900K for like half the price with about the same performance or double the cores for the same price...

 

So I'd rather look at the other side, get a good, very common board that probably will get Updated and use that.

 

Depending on what you have, it might make sense to hold out another 6 Months or so...

You do know that at the end of the year, Intel will most likely release a leap-frogging CPU.  

 

So by your logic, we wait 6 months, then wait 6 months, then...???

 

 

 

 


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16 hours ago, Brooksie359 said:

Yeah I gotta say that you are kinda just making stuff up. They said they would support AM4 until 2020 and never once said anything other than that. You are just making some assumptions right now. 

no your wrong because you said it your self, its losing support in 2020 WHICH MEANS A NEW SOCKET WILL BE MADE

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Just now, Earnist_ said:

no your wrong because you said it your self, its losing support in 2020 WHICH MEANS A NEW SOCKET WILL BE MADE

Yet there are AMD staff that have said they will be releasing cpus for AM4 through 2020. 

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Just now, Brooksie359 said:

Yet there are AMD staff that have said they will be releasing cpus for AM4 through 2020. 

and then AT SOME POINT IN 2020 IT WILL LOSE SUPPORT AND BE DONE, your just not to smart

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