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5 minutes ago, valdyrgramr said:

I've been talking with MS about this, btw to see their exact viewpoint on the matter. 

The first 5 times I got basically "It's illegal, but the worst case scenario is the key stops working."

next guy, "That depends on the location of the person."

Then I talked to a guy who pretty much said we're both right and wrong.  Which I don't mind being wrong on some of my claims either, but you were wrong too. By the way, this guy was talking with the legal team about it.

It's illegal if you buy a key intended to abuse the system, and yes the EULA is a contract that can be enforced.  So, if the key you bought was meant for a prebuilt laptop/desktop, you use the voice activation to force the key to work/abuse the system, attempt to transfer the key, and so on then yes you are breaching the contract and can be sued.  However and this is where I was wrong, an OEM key itself is not illegal if you purchased/obtained it without abusing the system and activate it without abusing the system.  Also, just because Newegg and Amazon are selling it he said that doesn't mean there isn't an abuse of the system.  His final remark is another thing I've been saying too.  Worst case scenario for the buyer is that the key stops working.

Kinda hard to read everything when you keep spamming before I can even finish a response, and you seem to ignore things I have said while making this very personal.  Maybe you should get over yourself?  That's not really a good way to debate something it just makes you seem childish.  In the end, we were both right and wrong.

 

Prove intent Microsoft.  You are wrong and I am right.  Microsoft isn't going to TELL YOU HOW to cheat the system.

 

If you believe Ive been personal - you need thicker skin.  This is text which is the only available modicum of communication.  If I said you were retarded that I could see construed as personal.

 

Bro, its okay - you literally had to go to Microsoft to realize you are wrong.  I am in no way wrong.  Microsoft tells you I am...because they don't want those on the fence or those who believe they are morally superior to understand...it doesn't have to be Microsofts way.

 

Im not wrong.

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4 minutes ago, valdyrgramr said:

Ya, sorry I'm going to take the word of actual legal experts on the matter over a combat instructor on this legal matter, sorry.  You were right and wrong too rather you like it or not.  

Having to spam before I can even respond/losing your cool, telling me your irrelevant background, and yelling at me to get over myself over and over is indeed making it personal and childish.

Oh no, I did more fact checking on the matter and got facts from lawyers and the company!  How dare I!  I get this is pointless since you can't seem to admit that you were wrong in some regards too.  I'm just not going to argue further with a brick wall.

I am not wrong, I already told you that.  You didn't speak with a Lawyer, you didn't speak with a Lawyer from Microsoft.  You literally spoke to a Customer Service Representative.  Cool story bro.

 

You are childish for taking offense, here let me offend - sansorðinn

 

At least if you want me to be offensive, let me.

 

You are wrong, and I am right.  Like I said, that's the only response I can give you that is true, anything else you wont read anyhow.

 

 

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2 minutes ago, valdyrgramr said:

You assumed I took offense.  Maybe if you weren't so spamming before I could respond you might have noticed that. But, I'm also not going to read through all the trailing spam you left after your original responses.  And, as I said we're both right and wrong.  Might as well leave it at this since you believe you can't be wrong.  Oh, and I didn't just talk to an agent you assumed I only did.  But, ya know what if I ever get arrested I won't talk to a lawyer because combat experts are the best legal experts.  They can't be wrong, and they know more than actual experts on legal matters.  See, I can be childish too.

You call it spam.  You are offended.  Look at the time stamps.  I tagged you, I wasn't spamming, editing doesn't notify you.  Get over yourself.  Stop being a snowflake, Odinson.

 

If you aren't going to read everything then literally STFU.  You don't want to know clearly, then.  You just want to espouse what you believe without trying to educate yourself.  Being willfully ignorant is a choice.

 

We aren't both right/wrong.  Im right, you are wrong. 

 

Its not that I cant be wrong, its that I am not.

 

You think Im going to get arrested - that tells me EVERYTHING I need to know. 

 

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7 minutes ago, Tristerin said:

You call it spam.  You are offended.  Look at the time stamps.  I tagged you, I wasn't spamming, editing doesn't notify you.  Get over yourself.  Stop being a snowflake, Odinson.

 

If you aren't going to read everything then literally STFU.  You don't want to know clearly, then.  You just want to espouse what you believe without trying to educate yourself.  Being willfully ignorant is a choice.

 

We aren't both right/wrong.  Im right, you are wrong. 

 

Its not that I cant be wrong, its that I am not.

 

You think Im going to get arrested - that tells me EVERYTHING I need to know. 

 

Chill. Personal attacks are not permitted on this forum.

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39 minutes ago, LinusTech said:

Chill. Personal attacks are not permitted on this forum.

 

Im REALLY glad the only thing @LinusTech has to say on this subject is Im being personal.  At least I know he understands how Keys work.

 

@valdyrgramr - on this subject, I wont be reading anything else you have to say.  You don't know what you are talking about.  I will respond to this thread anytime you post to ensure people who want to know, know that this isn't illegal.

 

 

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Will it work, yes.

 

Is it entirely above board, not quite.

 

I think it comes down to if you believe Microsoft is actually deserving of the $100. I typically do.

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On 1/12/2019 at 1:20 AM, LinusTech said:

Chill. Personal attacks are not permitted on this forum.

 

On 1/12/2019 at 2:04 AM, Tristerin said:

 

Im REALLY glad the only thing @LinusTech has to say on this subject is Im being personal.  At least I know he understands how Keys work.

 

@valdyrgramr - on this subject, I wont be reading anything else you have to say.  You don't know what you are talking about.  I will respond to this thread anytime you post to ensure people who want to know, know that this isn't illegal.

 

 

 

On 1/12/2019 at 1:13 AM, Tristerin said:

You call it spam.  You are offended.  Look at the time stamps.  I tagged you, I wasn't spamming, editing doesn't notify you.  Get over yourself.  Stop being a snowflake, Odinson.

 

If you aren't going to read everything then literally STFU.  You don't want to know clearly, then.  You just want to espouse what you believe without trying to educate yourself.  Being willfully ignorant is a choice.

 

We aren't both right/wrong.  Im right, you are wrong. 

 

Its not that I cant be wrong, its that I am not.

 

You think Im going to get arrested - that tells me EVERYTHING I need to know. 

 

Wait what!!!! SRSLY guys??? I just returned here and my gosh I didn't expect my OP to bear this level of inter-aggression, shear complexity and extreme judiciary! Thanks for calming those folks down M'lord Linus ?. So the REAL ANSWER to this is that it is "SAFE TO BUY, USE AND RELY UPON WITHOUT ANY HASSLE"?

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36 minutes ago, D33P said:

 

 

Wait what!!!! SRSLY guys??? I just returned here and my gosh I didn't expect my OP to bear this level of inter-aggression, shear complexity and extreme judiciary! Thanks for calming those folks down M'lord Linus ?. So the REAL ANSWER to this is that it is "SAFE TO BUY, USE AND RELY UPON WITHOUT ANY HASSLE"?

 

None of the extremes above.  When someone is wrong, they are wrong.  You can lead a horse to water (in this case repeatedly) then you have to beat that horse with a shovel to get it to drink.

 

The Real Answer was stated many many times, and you are correct - Extremely SAFE to buy, Extremely SAFE to use, Extremely RELIABLE. 

 

Without this Conversation taking place, OP, you would have never had your question answered correctly.

 

You would have had people telling you how they morally feel about this transaction, and left believing something wrong.

 

Personally, this conversation needed to take place, glad it did.

 

EDIT - Keys are much cheaper on EBAY, just check the sellers rating and comments and you will know if they are a legit seller or not.

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