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Out of 110 tested phones, 42 were unlocked while using photos on face recognition

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Posted · Original PosterOP

All of us have heard about or read those articles where is said that someone unlocked the latest X flagship with a photo, so here we finally have a big test.

According to the Dutch, face recognition is not really that safe, at least on cheaper, budget phones. It's a short article so gonna post everything. 

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Dutch non-profit Consumentenbond has worked with international partners to conduct an audit of 110 smartphones with facial recognition. Spoiler alert: 42 of them were unlocked with the kind of photo you’d find on social media or capture on security cams.

Passing the test (thankfully) are Samsung’s high-end and mid-tier offerings from 2018, all the OnePlus phones, Huawei’s Mate 20 series, Motorola’s 2018 phones, and the latest flagships from Asus, Honor, HTC and Oppo. All iPhones passed the test as well.

The LG G7, V35 and V40 passed the test on their highest security setting, but failed on the lower setting as did the Honor 7A.

Failing the test is every single Sony phone, the Huawei P20 series, the Nokias, the Blackberries and all the budget offerings from Samsung, LG, Motorola, Xiaomi and Asus.

The bottom line is, if you have one of these phones that also has a fingerprint scanner, then you’d better stick to that. To see if your phone passes, check the full list here.

In the modern age, it’s incredibly easy for a potential thief to get someone’s photo of social media or take one covertly with their own phone. Attempting a face unlock with a photo is the first and most common test anyone would apply, and if a face unlock system can’t stand up to it, then it’s practically useless. Hopefully, companies will up their game for 2019.

 

To be honest, I expected more from the Huawei P series and at least some Nokia and Sony phones? Even more interesting, Blackberries failed. But to be fair, there is a question of how much money they even invest in security with their current standing. 

 

Gonna use Google translate since I don't speak dutch neither do dutch for that matter

Phones that did not pass:

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  1. Alcatel 1X
  2. Asus Zenfone 5 Lite 64 GB
  3. Asus Zenfone 5, ZE620KL (64 GB)
  4. BlackBerry Key2
  5. BlackBerry Key2 (US version)
  6. BQ Aquaris X2
  7. BQ Aquaris X2 Pro
  8. General Mobile GM8
  9. HTC U11+
  10. Huawei P20 (EML - L29)
  11. Huawei P20 Lite
  12. Huawei P20 Pro (CLT - L29)
  13. Lenovo Motorola Moto E5
  14. Lenovo Motorola Moto E5 (BR version)
  15. Lenovo Motorola Moto E5 Plus (BR version)
  16. Lenovo Motorola Moto G6 Play
  17. LG K9 (LM-X210EMW)
  18. LG Q6 Alpha (LG-M700n)
  19. Motorola Moto G6 Play (BR version)
  20. Motorola One
  21. Nokia 3.1
  22. Nokia 3.1 (US version)
  23. Nokia 7.1
  24. Oukitel VU
  25. Samsung Galaxy A7 (2018)
  26. Samsung Galaxy A8 (32GB) (SM-A530F/DS
  27. Samsung Galaxy A8 (64 GB)
  28. Samsung Galaxy A8+ (SM-A730F)
  29. Samsung Galaxy J8 Brasil
  30. Sony Xperia L2 (H3311)
  31. Sony Xperia L2 (H3321)
  32. Sony Xperia XZ2 (H8216)
  33. Sony Xperia XZ2 (US version)
  34. Sony Xperia XZ2 Compact (H8314)
  35. Sony Xperia XZ2 Compact (US version)
  36. Sony Xperia XZ2 Compact Dual SIM (H8324)
  37. Sony Xperia XZ2 Dual SIM (H8266)
  38. Sony Xperia XZ2 Premium (US version)
  39. Sony Xperia XZ3
  40. Vodafone Smart N9
  41. Xiaomi Mi A2
  42. Xiaomi Mi A2 (32GB)

Phones that passed when better security option was picked:

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  1. Honor 7A
  2. LG G7 thinQ
  3. LG G7 thinQ (US version)
  4. LG G7 thinQ Dual SIM
  5. LG V35 ThinQ (US version)
  6. LG V40 ThinQ

Phones that they were unable to trick with a photo:

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  1. Alcatel 3V (5099D)
  2. Alcatel 5
  3. Apple iPhone XR (128 GB)
  4. Apple iPhone XR (256 GB)
  5. Apple iPhone XR (64 GB)
  6. Apple iPhone XS (256GB)
  7. Apple iPhone XS (512GB)
  8. Apple iPhone XS (64GB)
  9. Apple iPhone XS Max (256GB)
  10. Apple iPhone XS Max (512GB)
  11. Apple iPhone XS Max (64GB)
  12. Asus Zenfone Max Plus (ZB570TL)
  13. Honor 10
  14. Honor 7C
  15. Honor 8X
  16. Honor View 10
  17. HTC U12+ (EU version)
  18. HTC U12+ (US version)Huawei P Smart+
  19. Huawei Y6 (2018) (ATU-L21)
  20. Huawei Y7 (2018)
  21. Huawei Mate 20
  22. Huawei Mate 20 Lite
  23. Huawei Mate 20 Pro
  24. Lenovo Motorola Moto G6 (32GB)
  25. Lenovo Motorola Moto G6 (64GB)
  26. Lenovo Motorola Moto G6 (US version)
  27. Lenovo Motorola Moto G6 Plus
  28. Lenovo Motorola Moto Z3 .US version
  29. Lenovo Motorola Moto Z3 Play
  30. Lenovo Motorola Moto Z3 Play .US version
  31. Motorola Moto G6 (BR version)
  32. Motorola Moto G6 Plus (BR version)
  33. One Plus 5T
  34. OnePlus 6 (128GB)
  35. OnePlus 6 (256GB)
  36. OnePlus 6 (64GB)
  37. OnePlus 6 (US version) (64 GB)
  38. Oppo Find X
  39. Samsung Galaxy A6 (32GB)
  40. Samsung Galaxy A6+ (32GB)
  41. Samsung Galaxy A6+ (64 GB)
  42. Samsung Galaxy A9 (2018)
  43. Samsung Galaxy J6 (2018)
  44. Samsung Galaxy Note 9 (128 GB) (EU version)
  45. Samsung Galaxy Note 9 (128 GB) Dual SIM (BR version)
  46. Samsung Galaxy Note 9 (128 GB) Single SIM (EU version)
  47. Samsung Galaxy Note 9 SM-N960U1 (US version)
  48. Samsung Galaxy S9  (SM-G960F/DS)
  49. Samsung Galaxy S9  SM-G960U1 (US model)
  50. Samsung Galaxy S9 256GB
  51. Samsung Galaxy S9 dual (128GB)
  52. Samsung Galaxy S9+ (SM-G965F/DS)
  53. Samsung Galaxy S9+ 256GB
  54. Samsung Galaxy S9+ dual (128GB)
  55. Samsung Galaxy S9+ Single SIM
  56. Samsung Galaxy S9+ SM-G965U1 (US model)
  57. WIKO View 2

Are you surprised? Any unexpected fails/surprises on the list?

 

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Just now, Bouzoo said:

Are you surprised? Any unexpected fails/surprises on the list?

Nope, expected it since it was introduced.


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-Lenovo Thinkpad X220 - [8/10]

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A durable and reliable machine that is relatively lightweight, has all the hardware it needs to never feel sluggish and has a great IPS matte screen. Downsides are mostly due to its age, most notably the screen resolution of 1366x768 and usb 2.0 ports.

 

-Apple Macbook (2015) - [Garbage -/10]

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From my perspective, this product has no redeeming factors given its price and the competition. It is underpowered, overpriced, impractical due to its single port and is made redundant even by Apple's own iPad pro line.

 

-OnePlus X - [7/10]

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A good phone for the price. It does everything I (and most people) need without being sluggish and has no particularly bad flaws. The lack of recent software updates and relatively barebones feature kit (most notably the lack of 5GHz wifi, biometric sensors and backlight for the capacitive buttons) prevent it from being exceptional.

 

-Microsoft Surface Book 2 - [Garbage - -/10]

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Overpriced and rushed, offers nothing notable compared to the competition, doesn't come with an adequate charger despite the premium price. Worse than the Macbook for not even offering the small plus sides of having macOS. Buy a Razer Blade if you want high performance in a (relatively) light package.

 

-Intel Core i7 2600/k - [9/10]

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-Apple iPad Pro - [5/10]

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A pretty good product, sunk by its price (plus the extra cost of the physical keyboard and the pencil). Buy it if you don't mind the Apple tax and are looking for a very light office machine with an excellent digitizer. Particularly good for rich students. Bad for cheap tinkerers like myself.

 

 

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Just now, Sauron said:

Nope, expected it since it was introduced.

This is why I honestly like Samsungs Intelligent scan. I still believe it is the most secure if you opt for biometrics.


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Not really shocking considering things that just use a camera don't know depth so a picture and a face are the same. Interesting that people flip out when they fool the iPhone with customized expensive handmade masks yet 42 other phones fail from just downloading a picture off facebook and holding it up


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well yah, i wouldnt want to use that anyway. not a fan of face unlock in general. 


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5 minutes ago, BuckGup said:

Not really shocking considering things that just use a camera don't know depth so a picture and a face are the same. Interesting that people flip out when they fool the iPhone with customized expensive handmade masks yet 42 other phones fail from just downloading a picture off facebook and holding it up

Yeah, it's just as stupid in all its iterations. Use a password if you care.

 

It boggles my mind we keep trying to complicate simple things and inevitably make something that isn't as good.


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Sauron'stm Product Scores:

Spoiler

Just a list of my personal scores for some products, in no particular order, with brief comments. I just got the idea to do them so they aren't many for now :)

Don't take these as complete reviews or final truths - they are just my personal impressions on products I may or may not have used, summed up in a couple of sentences and a rough score. All scores take into account the unit's price and time of release, heavily so, therefore don't expect absolute performance to be reflected here.

 

-Lenovo Thinkpad X220 - [8/10]

Spoiler

A durable and reliable machine that is relatively lightweight, has all the hardware it needs to never feel sluggish and has a great IPS matte screen. Downsides are mostly due to its age, most notably the screen resolution of 1366x768 and usb 2.0 ports.

 

-Apple Macbook (2015) - [Garbage -/10]

Spoiler

From my perspective, this product has no redeeming factors given its price and the competition. It is underpowered, overpriced, impractical due to its single port and is made redundant even by Apple's own iPad pro line.

 

-OnePlus X - [7/10]

Spoiler

A good phone for the price. It does everything I (and most people) need without being sluggish and has no particularly bad flaws. The lack of recent software updates and relatively barebones feature kit (most notably the lack of 5GHz wifi, biometric sensors and backlight for the capacitive buttons) prevent it from being exceptional.

 

-Microsoft Surface Book 2 - [Garbage - -/10]

Spoiler

Overpriced and rushed, offers nothing notable compared to the competition, doesn't come with an adequate charger despite the premium price. Worse than the Macbook for not even offering the small plus sides of having macOS. Buy a Razer Blade if you want high performance in a (relatively) light package.

 

-Intel Core i7 2600/k - [9/10]

Spoiler

Quite possibly Intel's best product launch ever. It had all the bleeding edge features of the time, it came with a very significant performance improvement over its predecessor and it had a soldered heatspreader, allowing for efficient cooling and great overclocking. Even the "locked" version could be overclocked through the multiplier within (quite reasonable) limits.

 

-Apple iPad Pro - [5/10]

Spoiler

A pretty good product, sunk by its price (plus the extra cost of the physical keyboard and the pencil). Buy it if you don't mind the Apple tax and are looking for a very light office machine with an excellent digitizer. Particularly good for rich students. Bad for cheap tinkerers like myself.

 

 

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1 minute ago, BuckGup said:

Not really shocking considering things that just use a camera don't know depth so a picture and a face are the same. Interesting that people flip out when they fool the iPhone with customized expensive handmade masks yet 42 other phones fail from just downloading a picture off facebook and holding it up

To be fair, I would have wanted to see older iPhones in the test, weird they did not include them. Yes, they are probably as secure and yes, I'd like a confirmation for that. Especially since there are so many more 8s in the wild. 


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Just now, Sauron said:

Yeah, it's just as stupid in all its iterations. Use a password if you care.

Looks at his swipe to unlock setting


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1 minute ago, Bouzoo said:

Looks at his swipe to unlock setting

Well, if you don't care there's nothing wrong with it - why add another system in the way?


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Sauron'stm Product Scores:

Spoiler

Just a list of my personal scores for some products, in no particular order, with brief comments. I just got the idea to do them so they aren't many for now :)

Don't take these as complete reviews or final truths - they are just my personal impressions on products I may or may not have used, summed up in a couple of sentences and a rough score. All scores take into account the unit's price and time of release, heavily so, therefore don't expect absolute performance to be reflected here.

 

-Lenovo Thinkpad X220 - [8/10]

Spoiler

A durable and reliable machine that is relatively lightweight, has all the hardware it needs to never feel sluggish and has a great IPS matte screen. Downsides are mostly due to its age, most notably the screen resolution of 1366x768 and usb 2.0 ports.

 

-Apple Macbook (2015) - [Garbage -/10]

Spoiler

From my perspective, this product has no redeeming factors given its price and the competition. It is underpowered, overpriced, impractical due to its single port and is made redundant even by Apple's own iPad pro line.

 

-OnePlus X - [7/10]

Spoiler

A good phone for the price. It does everything I (and most people) need without being sluggish and has no particularly bad flaws. The lack of recent software updates and relatively barebones feature kit (most notably the lack of 5GHz wifi, biometric sensors and backlight for the capacitive buttons) prevent it from being exceptional.

 

-Microsoft Surface Book 2 - [Garbage - -/10]

Spoiler

Overpriced and rushed, offers nothing notable compared to the competition, doesn't come with an adequate charger despite the premium price. Worse than the Macbook for not even offering the small plus sides of having macOS. Buy a Razer Blade if you want high performance in a (relatively) light package.

 

-Intel Core i7 2600/k - [9/10]

Spoiler

Quite possibly Intel's best product launch ever. It had all the bleeding edge features of the time, it came with a very significant performance improvement over its predecessor and it had a soldered heatspreader, allowing for efficient cooling and great overclocking. Even the "locked" version could be overclocked through the multiplier within (quite reasonable) limits.

 

-Apple iPad Pro - [5/10]

Spoiler

A pretty good product, sunk by its price (plus the extra cost of the physical keyboard and the pencil). Buy it if you don't mind the Apple tax and are looking for a very light office machine with an excellent digitizer. Particularly good for rich students. Bad for cheap tinkerers like myself.

 

 

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Just now, Sauron said:

Well, if you don't care there's nothing wrong with it - why add another system in the way?

Accidental unlock in my pants. I have phone always with me so I'm not concerned about that kind of security. Mind you fingerprint is speed fast but not convenient often so I have just on swipe. 


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3 minutes ago, Bouzoo said:

To be fair, I would have wanted to see older iPhones in the test, weird they did not include them. Yes, they are probably as secure and yes, I'd like a confirmation for that. Especially since there are so many more 8s in the wild. 

They use the same tech so it wouldn't really matter. Actually the very first iPhone Xs used more expensive and better tech but Apple had issues with supply so they opted for a less accurate version


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3 minutes ago, BuckGup said:

They use the same tech so it wouldn't really matter. Actually the very first iPhone Xs used more expensive and better tech but Apple had issues with supply so they opted for a less accurate version

So XS is less accurate and secure than first 8 while bumping the price? Or does 8 have different tech than X?


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3 minutes ago, Bouzoo said:

So XS is less accurate and secure than 8 while bumping the price? Or does 8 have different tech than X?

The 8 doesn't have facial unlocking features. The X was the first. That's why it doesn't have a home button. The X and 8 have the same guts but the X has better camera, much better screen, facial recognition, bigger battery, stainless steel, and no home button.


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1 minute ago, BuckGup said:

The 8 doesn't have facial unlocking features. The X was the first. That's why it doesn't have a home button.

Ignore my dumb ass.


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2 minutes ago, Bouzoo said:

Yeah you are. That's either satire or a fake article. https://discussions.apple.com/thread/8370707

The only iPhone's with FaceID are the ones with the notch as the notch houses the metric butt ton of sensors used to create a 3D map of your face in any lighting situation 


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Just now, BuckGup said:

Yeah you are. That's either satire or a fake article. https://discussions.apple.com/thread/8370707

The only iPhone's with FaceID are the ones with the notch as the notch houses the metric butt ton of sensors used to create a 3D map of your face in any lighting situation 

It was based on a leak. You can see my edit.


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It was based on a leak. You can see my edit.

Yeah it's from over a year ago. 


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28 minutes ago, Bouzoo said:

This is why I honestly like Samsungs Intelligent scan. I still believe it is the most secure if you opt for biometrics.

Until someone steals your thumb.


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To be fair, I would have wanted to see older iPhones in the test, weird they did not include them. Yes, they are probably as secure and yes, I'd like a confirmation for that. Especially since there are so many more 8s in the wild. 

Face recognition is iPhone X and above

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1 minute ago, RorzNZ said:

Face recognition is iPhone X and above

It's like the next few comments don't exist. 


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6 minutes ago, peanuts104 said:

Until someone steals your thumb.

Intelligent scan is iris/face recognition combo. 


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1 hour ago, Bouzoo said:

To be fair, I would have wanted to see older iPhones in the test, weird they did not include them. Yes, they are probably as secure and yes, I'd like a confirmation for that. Especially since there are so many more 8s in the wild. 

Well the iPhone 8 doesn't have a face unlock feature. Only the iPhone X, Xs, Xs max, and XR have face unlock and all are with the FaceID scanners.

 

Edit: I should have read the rest of the comments

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Blackberry failing in particular is disappointing. True, they have fallen from their lofty position as the leader in enterprise mobile devices but they still markettheir devices to business users, security for these types of users is still very key. I still believe fingerprint scanners are the perfect mix of secure and convenient.

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17 minutes ago, ZacoAttaco said:

Blackberry failing in particular is disappointing. True, they have fallen from their lofty position as the leader in enterprise mobile devices but they still markettheir devices to business users, security for these types of users is still very key. I still believe fingerprint scanners are the perfect mix of secure and convenient.

That one was actually the most surprising one for me as well.

Their USP is security and them failing in such test is imo an epicfail, makes you wonder where else they cut corners...


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2 minutes ago, samcool55 said:

That one was actually the most surprising one for me as well.

Their USP is security and them failing in such test is imo an epicfail, makes you wonder where else they cut corners...

You're right, there's increasingly less and less incentive to purchase a Blackberry device. I mean, there hasn't really been a successful device from them in a long-time, I wonder how they still survive.

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