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50 minutes ago, Shreyas1 said:

>Police tries to shoot drone

>Police misses his shot

>Bullet hits someone or something in the suburbs nearby causing property damage

 

I feel like using some sort of way to interfere with the drones would be a better idea

Only real way to interfere with a drone's operation is to jam its RF signal... which could wreak havoc with avionics. Not to mention transmitting a powerful signal that can jam a drone's signal could also screw with local Wifi networks as they tend to use the same frequencies.

 

Shooting them down with DE weapons could be a solution for the near future. Fast, clean, and effective provided a proper system is set up (probably only major airports could afford this solution).

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At this rate they'll just make it illegal to posses a drone within X Km of an airport.   

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Idiots like these wanna make the world a bad place. If this continues, they'll make sure that everyone who has a drone will need some sort of a license to fly them or they'll have to be regulated..

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11 hours ago, williamcll said:

All they need to do is just allow police to shoot drones.

Yeah no. That's a terrible idea. 

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11 hours ago, Shreyas1 said:

>Police tries to shoot drone

>Police misses his shot

>Bullet hits someone or something in the suburbs nearby causing property damage

 

I feel like using some sort of way to interfere with the drones would be a better idea

If they're flying low enough a shotgun would do, wouldn't cause any issues if they missed.

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3 hours ago, Freebo said:

If they're flying low enough a shotgun would do, wouldn't cause any issues if they missed.

Other than the pellets that missed the drone falling from a high altitude on someone outside the airport.

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4 hours ago, Lady Fitzgerald said:

Other than the pellets that missed the drone falling from a high altitude on someone outside the airport.

And the drone landing on someone too, there's too many logistical issues for that to be the way to handle these drones. If there were some way they could hijack the signal and then safely move it down and away from passengers.

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4 hours ago, Lady Fitzgerald said:

Other than the pellets that missed the drone falling from a high altitude on someone outside the airport.

I've been hit in the head by shot fired by someone stood about 50 yards from me who fired them into the air at a clay, they stang but didnt draw blood (I wasnt too happy about it though!) unless they were stood on the perimeter or extremely close this just simply would not happen.

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1 hour ago, ZacoAttaco said:

And the drone landing on someone too, there's too many logistical issues for that to be the way to handle these drones. If there were some way they could hijack the signal and then safely move it down and away from passengers.

A better idea would be to send their own drone dragging a net behind it. The mesh of the net would snag the offending drone and let it be landed safely.

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2 hours ago, Freebo said:

I've been hit in the head by shot fired by someone stood about 50 yards from me who fired them into the air at a clay, they stang but didnt draw blood (I wasnt too happy about it though!) unless they were stood on the perimeter or extremely close this just simply would not happen.

 

 

The UK is not the US, every airport is surrounded by enormous amounts of housing. And what might not hurt you could still hurt a child looking up at the sky that gets hit in the eye.

 

Your also assuming a police officer could get into shotgun range. SHotguns may have a decentish range IRL, (unlike what the movies would have you believe), but given flight path issues a drone only has to withing a fairly broad radiu around the airport to be a danger.

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42 minutes ago, CarlBar said:

 

 

The UK is not the US, every airport is surrounded by enormous amounts of housing. And what might not hurt you could still hurt a child looking up at the sky that gets hit in the eye.

 

Your also assuming a police officer could get into shotgun range. SHotguns may have a decentish range IRL, (unlike what the movies would have you believe), but given flight path issues a drone only has to withing a fairly broad radiu around the airport to be a danger.

True that. A drone could be near the edge of an airport or a little ways outside the airport to be an immediate danger. In the SSA (Squabbling States of America), drones aren't allowed within five miles of an airport.

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Simple solution: extremely strict charges for anyone found flying a drone within restricted airspace.

Example: 10 years jail minimum, plus $150,000 fine.

Enforce it aggressively and it won't be long before people think twice.

 

On 1/8/2019 at 11:36 AM, Master Disaster said:

I think after last time they authorised the Army to deploy some anti drone tech when required.

IIRC they're not authorizing the army to do it, they're in the process of purchasing military grade equipment themselves.

On 1/8/2019 at 2:38 PM, maartendc said:

Well even if a bird gets into the Jet engine, it causes engine failure. I think this is relatively uncommon, but that flight that made an emergency landing in the Hudson river in 2009 was struck by birds: https://www.scienceabc.com/pure-sciences/what-really-happens-when-a-bird-hits-strike-an-airplane.html

 

(funny that the article states: "no casualties" occured, as I am sure the birds died).

To be fair though that was many, many bird strikes in rapid succession...

23 hours ago, williamcll said:

All they need to do is just allow police to shoot drones.

Might work for some countries...but in the UK there are very few armed police.

3 hours ago, Freebo said:

I've been hit in the head by shot fired by someone stood about 50 yards from me who fired them into the air at a clay, they stang but didnt draw blood (I wasnt too happy about it though!) unless they were stood on the perimeter or extremely close this just simply would not happen.

If you'd been hit in the eye I'm sure it'd be a different story. Plus, such things pick up more velocity over greater distances.

42 minutes ago, CarlBar said:

The UK is not the US, every airport is surrounded by enormous amounts of housing. And what might not hurt you could still hurt a child looking up at the sky that gets hit in the eye.

 

Your also assuming a police officer could get into shotgun range. SHotguns may have a decentish range IRL, (unlike what the movies would have you believe), but given flight path issues a drone only has to withing a fairly broad radiu around the airport to be a danger.

Not to mention the much, much better maneuverability a drone has. It can zip around faster than any animal.

Plus, you know, the lack of firearms in the UK.

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6 hours ago, dizmo said:

Simple solution: extremely strict charges for anyone found flying a drone within restricted airspace.

Example: 10 years jail minimum, plus $150,000 fine.

Enforce it aggressively and it won't be long before people think twice.

 

IIRC they're not authorizing the army to do it, they're in the process of purchasing military grade equipment themselves.

To be fair though that was many, many bird strikes in rapid succession...

Might work for some countries...but in the UK there are very few armed police.

If you'd been hit in the eye I'm sure it'd be a different story. Plus, such things pick up more velocity over greater distances.

Not to mention the much, much better maneuverability a drone has. It can zip around faster than any animal.

Plus, you know, the lack of firearms in the UK.

 

The UK's biggest armed police section is based in London. Firearms officer could easily be on site very, very rapidly if it was felt they're needed.

 

Some things you need to really, really, really, REALLY remember when talking about the Uk police and firearms:

 

1. We don't have a lot of firearms qualified officers in the UK.

 

2. But we also don't need a lot of them on a routine basis. if i the source of a year the police across the whole of the Uk discharge, (intentionally or accidentally), their firearms  on duty enough times that you cannot count the occurrences on the fingers of one hand you'll have th newspapers and the like screaming about the rise in violent crime.

 

3. They're scattered all over the country, but a few specialised units aside they only carry them when the situation calls for them. Any officer you see roaming around might be a firearms officer. but he won;t be carrying the weapon unless there's an immediate need for it, (which is rare, see point 2).

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17 minutes ago, CarlBar said:

 

The UK's biggest armed police section is based in London. Firearms officer could easily be on site very, very rapidly if it was felt they're needed.

 

Some things you need to really, really, really, REALLY remember when talking about the Uk police and firearms:

 

1. We don't have a lot of firearms qualified officers in the UK.

 

2. But we also don't need a lot of them on a routine basis. if i the source of a year the police across the whole of the Uk discharge, (intentionally or accidentally), their firearms  on duty enough times that you cannot count the occurrences on the fingers of one hand you'll have th newspapers and the like screaming about the rise in violent crime.

 

3. They're scattered all over the country, but a few specialised units aside they only carry them when the situation calls for them. Any officer you see roaming around might be a firearms officer. but he won;t be carrying the weapon unless there's an immediate need for it, (which is rare, see point 2).

Very similar here, although most do get firearms training guns are locked in a lock box in the boot of the patrol cars and the times that necessitate even getting it out is very uncommon, discharging the weapon is even more rare than that.

 

Most of the police work here is interpersonal skills. Physically restraining people comes after other attempts or if the person is being excessively belligerent, drunk or on drugs, stuff like that.

 

For me I would introduce a law that requires all personal drones to have a dedicated shutdown signal that can't be sent to it or if it flies in to a restricted air space. Make the signal restricted like other licensed only signal bands with fines if you transmit on it unlicensed. That way if a drone flies to close to an airport it'll just shutdown, if it doesn't then it's an illegal drone which tbh in the short term won't help much but it seems like a reasonable long term solution.

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7 hours ago, CarlBar said:

 

 

The UK is not the US, every airport is surrounded by enormous amounts of housing. And what might not hurt you could still hurt a child looking up at the sky that gets hit in the eye.

 

Your also assuming a police officer could get into shotgun range. SHotguns may have a decentish range IRL, (unlike what the movies would have you believe), but given flight path issues a drone only has to withing a fairly broad radiu around the airport to be a danger.

I live in the UK so fully aware, we actually go shooting next to a runway (literally on the perimeter wall) and have not had any issues other than when some model RC plane enthusiast decided to fly their planes very low over the active shooting ground, inevitably one got shot and someone got frustrated but we do have a big red flag that when raised signals an active shooting ground and can be clearly seen from the runway where I'd expect they'd been told as its only active on the same morning every week.

7 hours ago, dizmo said:

If you'd been hit in the eye I'm sure it'd be a different story. Plus, such things pick up more velocity over greater distances.

This is why we wear eye protection. I feel a trained officer using a shotgun in an open airfield should have the common sense not to shoot towards people/houses (if they're near the perimeter), its quite easy with shotguns to be able to just eye ball what you could be shooting at/over as unlike rifles the shot will only travel for a couple of hundred yards if that.

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30 minutes ago, leadeater said:

Very similar here, although most do get firearms training guns are locked in a lock box in the boot of the patrol cars and the times that necessitate even getting it out is very uncommon, discharging the weapon is even more rare than that.

 

Most of the police work here is interpersonal skills. Physically restraining people comes after other attempts or if the person is being excessively belligerent, drunk or on drugs, stuff like that.

Our cops carry all the time, always have.  I think it's unfair that Victoria cops get a bad rap for shooting people though, they're not worse than other states/countries, they're just better shots.

 

30 minutes ago, leadeater said:

For me I would introduce a law that requires all personal drones to have a dedicated shutdown signal that can't be sent to it or if it flies in to a restricted air space. Make the signal restricted like other licensed only signal bands with fines if you transmit on it unlicensed. That way if a drone flies to close to an airport it'll just shutdown, if it doesn't then it's an illegal drone which tbh in the short term won't help much but it seems like a reasonable long term solution.

Like most issues in society there probably is no long term solution,  and if there is, it'll be shouted down by the "oh my rights" movement and become the political equivalent of setting up pedophile support group in a childcare centre.

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42 minutes ago, leadeater said:

For me I would introduce a law that requires all personal drones to have a dedicated shutdown signal that can't be sent to it or if it flies in to a restricted air space. Make the signal restricted like other licensed only signal bands with fines if you transmit on it unlicensed. That way if a drone flies to close to an airport it'll just shutdown, if it doesn't then it's an illegal drone which tbh in the short term won't help much but it seems like a reasonable long term solution.

I'm honestly surprised this isn't in place already. Either way this is the right line of thinking.

 

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7 minutes ago, ZacoAttaco said:

Linus was right, you really do know everything ?.

I don't turn down compliments but... that was kind of an over statement lol. Surprised me more that he even reads the stuff I write, 50% of it is just really bad jokes.

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23 minutes ago, mr moose said:

Our cops carry all the time, always have.  I think it's unfair that Victoria cops get a bad rap for shooting people though, they're not worse than other states/countries, they're just better shots.

Yea, I'm not one of those people that are opposed to police carrying guns it's just that here they haven't and there isn't exactly a pressing need to change that.

 

Trying to solve the drone problem with projectiles is just fundamentally stupid though, not only will it not work but it's also dangerous no matter what the projectile is. Drones are controlled with technology, lets try and solve a technology issue with technology first before acting like scared cave men throwing rocks.

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6 hours ago, CarlBar said:

 

The UK's biggest armed police section is based in London. Firearms officer could easily be on site very, very rapidly if it was felt they're needed.

 

Some things you need to really, really, really, REALLY remember when talking about the Uk police and firearms:

 

1. We don't have a lot of firearms qualified officers in the UK.

 

2. But we also don't need a lot of them on a routine basis. if i the source of a year the police across the whole of the Uk discharge, (intentionally or accidentally), their firearms  on duty enough times that you cannot count the occurrences on the fingers of one hand you'll have th newspapers and the like screaming about the rise in violent crime.

 

3. They're scattered all over the country, but a few specialised units aside they only carry them when the situation calls for them. Any officer you see roaming around might be a firearms officer. but he won;t be carrying the weapon unless there's an immediate need for it, (which is rare, see point 2).

1) There are somewhere near 6,000 firearms trained officers in the UK. Around 2000 of those are based in and around London.

 

2) There was more homicides in London in February 2017 than there was in New York. You seem to be under the impression that AFOs are only called when guns are involved, this is entirely false, AFOs attend any violent incident where it's reported the perpetrators are still present and are posing an immediate risk to life. Not to mention other duties like airport patroling and other security work (parliament, Buckingham palace etc) as well as large public events like football matches etc. It's far more common for AFOs to be used for prevention than cure. You are correct about one thing though, from March 2016 to March 2017 across the entire UK there were only 10 instances of an AFO discharging their weapon.

 

3) Whatever gave you that impression? In the major cities AFOs only ever attend incidents where their skills are required, if you seen an AFO then they will be carrying a weapon and on active deployment. Marked ARVs will also always be carrying weapons. In more rural areas it's pretty common for AFOs to go out on regular duties but their weapon will ALWAYS be in their vehicle.

 

Also let's not forget that a large amount of regular officers are being TASER trained which technically makes them firearms officers although because it's non lethal they do carry them at all times.

 

Remember that even AFOs are technically not authorised to kill someone no matter the severity of the situation, any officer that shoots has to explain their actions to the IPCC, any officer that kills is temporarily suspended while their actions are verified and confirmed to the only thing they could have done. Firearms officers in the UK can (and in the past have) be prosecuted if they kill unwarranted.

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On 1/8/2019 at 1:07 PM, Master Disaster said:

All departing flights are currently suspended at europe's busiest airport after a drone sighting has been reported

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On 1/10/2019 at 1:36 AM, CarlBar said:

The UK's biggest armed police section is based in London. Firearms officer could easily be on site very, very rapidly if it was felt they're needed.

 

Some things you need to really, really, really, REALLY remember when talking about the Uk police and firearms:

 

1. We don't have a lot of firearms qualified officers in the UK.

 

2. But we also don't need a lot of them on a routine basis. if i the source of a year the police across the whole of the Uk discharge, (intentionally or accidentally), their firearms  on duty enough times that you cannot count the occurrences on the fingers of one hand you'll have th newspapers and the like screaming about the rise in violent crime.

 

3. They're scattered all over the country, but a few specialised units aside they only carry them when the situation calls for them. Any officer you see roaming around might be a firearms officer. but he won;t be carrying the weapon unless there's an immediate need for it, (which is rare, see point 2).

Not rapidly enough, if damage was what the person flying the drone was intending.

While it's true there's not a lot of gun violence in the UK, I do believe you have significantly more knife based violence. Which just comes down to the accessibility of the weapons in question. For example, the UK also has many, many more incidents of acid attacks than you'd see in a country like the US.

From what I've seen they carry pistols on them at all times.

On 1/10/2019 at 2:31 AM, Freebo said:

I live in the UK so fully aware, we actually go shooting next to a runway (literally on the perimeter wall) and have not had any issues other than when some model RC plane enthusiast decided to fly their planes very low over the active shooting ground, inevitably one got shot and someone got frustrated but we do have a big red flag that when raised signals an active shooting ground and can be clearly seen from the runway where I'd expect they'd been told as its only active on the same morning every week.

This is why we wear eye protection. I feel a trained officer using a shotgun in an open airfield should have the common sense not to shoot towards people/houses (if they're near the perimeter), its quite easy with shotguns to be able to just eye ball what you could be shooting at/over as unlike rifles the shot will only travel for a couple of hundred yards if that.

Yes, an officer might be wearing eye protection, but not bystanders.

Also...if it was in fact a hostile drone, having to wait for an officer to respond simply won't cut it. The damage will have been done.

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58 minutes ago, dizmo said:

Not rapidly enough, if damage was what the person flying the drone was intending.

While it's true there's not a lot of gun violence in the UK, I do believe you have significantly more knife based violence. Which just comes down to the accessibility of the weapons in question. For example, the UK also has many, many more incidents of acid attacks than you'd see in a country like the US.

From what I've seen they carry pistols on them at all times.

Yes, an officer might be wearing eye protection, but not bystanders.

Also...if it was in fact a hostile drone, having to wait for an officer to respond simply won't cut it. The damage will have been done.

 

Unless the dronis carrying an explosive payload and decides to dive bomb somthing it's not a threat in the short term outside of extreme luck. Exact approaches of planes are going to vary somewhat so getting a drione into the path of a specific plane is very much a matter of luck, and thats assuming no one's watching for them, you'll notice they weren't flying around for long periods at a time, (unsurprising they can only stay airborne for so long), and yet where spotted indicating they were spotted pretty quickly.

 

If someone can pull off a scenario where they can cause a crash within the response time of the police with any degree of reliability the odds are very good they can do it before anyone even knows there's a drone in the area.

 

Also my point about the number of discharges wasn't some "we don't have violent crime issues at all" statement, but rather demonstrating ow rarely the UK Police find themselves in a situation where discharging a firearm is actually warranted. I've been in a lot of gun control discussions on the internet over the years and there's a tendency for a lot of US based people to find the idea of unarmed police as automatically indicating that the police must be suffering horribly or that we must be suffering epidemics of crime types that could only be solved by an armed police force. But given how rarely they discharge their firearms that just doesn't hold up.

 

@Master Disaster Forgot to get back to you, as i hope is clear from what i just wrote above i was commenting specifically on how rarely armed police find themselves in a situation where they need to pull the trigger. Though thank you for the correction on them keeping them in their cars, i knew sme did i didn't realise it was a routine thing.

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