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OnePlus CEO tells the truth about 5G

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4 minutes ago, BillyCool said:

What we need is proper, working, full speed 4G, not 5G...

What if 5G allows you to get your 4G faster? You can virtualize the 4G infrastructure on top of a 5G infrastructure. 

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Unless 5G vastly improves on efficiency (which it doesn't), there's very little reason for national infrastructures to adopt this. I haven't read the IEEE papers on it yet, but we'll see when it's finalized.

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Who in the heck is downloading all of the Federal government's files in one minute? oh yeah, that would be that dude over there with 5tb total capacity note 14


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Where I live I'm not expecting 5G service any time soon. The market just isn't there for it. 

 

Bonus mention: In my home my Verizon 4G LTE network speeds average at less than 1.2Mbps while I walk down the street to my local grocery store and get ~9Mbps. The fastest I've ever seen was 14Mbps in the major shopping center in my city.


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12 hours ago, 79wjd said:

Battery life was abysmal and it was noticeably thicker than the Droid X it replaced

It’s not LTE’s fault that early LTE phones have terrible battery life but how the modems are designed. Back in the day, phones have two separate modems for GSM/CDMA and LTE which consumes a lot of power. Newer phones in 2012 uses a single modem for both voice and data. 


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I think what people are missing with 5G is that you need a processor that can process the data and need storage that can write as fast as 5G can transmit.

Its not as simple as sticking 5G in a mid range phone, there’d be no benefit without the rest of the hardware to match.

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2 hours ago, Phentos said:

Where I live I'm not expecting 5G service any time soon. The market just isn't there for it. 

 

Bonus mention: In my home my Verizon 4G LTE network speeds average at less than 1.2Mbps while I walk down the street to my local grocery store and get ~9Mbps. The fastest I've ever seen was 14Mbps in the major shopping center in my city.

Mate what you have isn’t LTE my 3G is faster than that. I just did a Speedtest on LTE while walking down the road for comparison 2984025503.png

 

And this is 3G

https://www.speedtest.net/iphone/2984036157.png

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1 minute ago, schwellmo92 said:

Mate what you have isn’t LTE my 3G is faster than that. I just did a Speedtest on LTE while walking down the road for comparison 2984025503.png

Idk I'm just stating my observations. It's abysmally slow at my house because there's a big dead zone around it. LTE service usually flakes out and I'm either on 1X or 3G if I'm in my bedroom or bathroom XD.

 

I always use Wifi on my Xfinity 250Mbps connection so it doesn't really matter to me.


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I think the most bothersome part is going to be roaming, meaning that there will be a limited amount of phones that can support all bands.


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3 hours ago, captain_to_fire said:

It’s not LTE’s fault that early LTE phones have terrible battery life but how the modems are designed. Back in the day, phones have two separate modems for GSM/CDMA and LTE which consumes a lot of power. Newer phones in 2012 uses a single modem for both voice and data. 

I understand why, in just pointing out that early adoption is an extra shitty experience when it comes to phone networks.


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Lao just trying to justify the rapidly increasing price of OnePlus phones...

 

So here we have an Apple fan taking this to defend the company's comparative shortcoming. When Apple adopts 5G, the iPhone will probably be absurd over $2k


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Why would I pay for a faster speed that will just get throttled anyways? Especially when my tax dollars already subsidize their network infrastructure (Which I note they seem to have not mentioned)

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6 minutes ago, Donut417 said:

Sadly thats what I get on TMobile's 4G LTE network at my home and Im about a mile from the tower. 

That depends on a few factors, including the dead zone radius of the tower itself, utilization of the backhaul, etc.


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1 minute ago, Lurick said:

That depends on a few factors, including the dead zone radius of the tower itself, utilization of the backhaul, etc.

NO its the curse of my city. We have 24K people and Detroit Metro Airport. No one wants to invest in to the infrastructure here. AT&T has pretty much given up. Comcast at least keeps things moving. But we have no major stores, no grocery store, pretty much nothing. T Mobile probably considers the area unimportant. The city is nothing but Hotels, Airport, Trucking Companies and Warehouses. Which is why Amazon built their warehouse here. 

 

I mean Im fine with the 25 Mbps considering the city to the south of us gets 0 TMobile service. 

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4 hours ago, schwellmo92 said:

5G doesn’t help coverage.

Yes, it does. 5G is not restricted to mmWave and the Cloud RAN, part of 5G, makes tower installation cheaper and faster. 

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I'll just keep using WiFi like I have always been.


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2 hours ago, huilun02 said:

Lao just trying to justify the rapidly increasing price of OnePlus phones...

 

So here we have an Apple fan taking this to defend the company's comparative shortcoming. When Apple adopts 5G, the iPhone will probably be absurd over $2k

Let's not speculate about iPhone pricing until we're vaguely close to the launch, shall we?

 

And it sounds like you don't remember what things were like when LTE arrived in 2011.  Some hardcore Android fans were crowing about how they had LTE and iPhones didn't... and then griped that they had to charge their LTE phones multiple times per day, that their phones were still chunky beasts despite the short battery life, and that coverage was so thin they'd lose LTE if they so much as blinked.  I know people who went from bragging about the HTC Thunderbolt to practically cursing its existence.

 

Being first doesn't always mean you'll have the better experience.  Sometimes it just means you're the obsessive early adopter who makes all kinds of unreasonable sacrifices for the sake of saying "first!"

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34 minutes ago, Commodus said:

Being first doesn't always mean you'll have the better experience.  Sometimes it just means you're the obsessive early adopter who makes all kinds of unreasonable sacrifices for the sake of saying "first!"

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45 minutes ago, Commodus said:

I know people who went from bragging about the HTC Thunderbolt to practically cursing its existence.

As an owner of the Thunderbolt.......it was a lot more of the latter. 


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I mean yeah to be expected, will take time for it to be mainstream. 5G will be neat and all but 4G is not even covered everywhere and not even utilized to it's full potential by some carrier. Also, we're using these on phones. So I kinda don't care really about it since you know, caps to burn even faster and yeah. I want a freaking fiber line infrastructure to grow rather! 


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23 minutes ago, 79wjd said:

As an owner of the Thunderbolt.......it was a lot more of the latter. 

Ouch, I feel you.  I can't help but get the feeling that we'll get something similar with that Samsung 5G phone arriving in the spring.  People will crow about it, say it's Apple's death knell... it probably won't be as bad as the Thunderbolt, but it'll probably be patently obvious that you're making lots of compromises to say you have 5G.

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