i was just wondering if some kind ppl could help me out make this decision

[alejang015]

i am planning an upgrade and im not sure if i should go with an i5 8400 or an i7 7700k 

and if u could recommend a decent motherboard for the 8th gen

system specs:

i5 6600k

corsair a50 cpu cooler 

8gb hyper x fury ram 2 sticks (16gb)

z170x designare from gigabyte

gtx 1070 xtreme gaming 

evga 550w white

samsung 860 evo 250gb

seagate barracuda 2tb

nzxt s340 elite and nzxt hue+

thanks

[COUPER MILLAR]

Is there a specific reason you are wanting to upgrade? as far as gaming is concerned neither of those will provide a huge difference in game performance IMO.  You would see a better price to performance bump from getting better cooler and pushing OC as far as possible on your current set up. 

[Dedayog]

Just now, COUPER MILLAR said:

I there a specific reason you are wanting to upgrade? as far as gaming is concerned neither of those will provide a huge difference in game performance IMO.  You would see a better price to performance bump from getting better cooler and pushing OC as far as possible on your current set up. 

Yeah, this. 

 

[LogicWeasel]

Your CPU is already a Skylake quad core, liquid cooled, OC unlocked 3.5Ghz base and you're thinking about a slightly newer 6-core (with much lower clock speed) or a marginally faster 7700k with 8 threads?  That's not much of an upgrade, especially not for gaming.

 

What is the actual issue that makes you want to upgrade, perhaps that should be examined.

[alejang015]

i use it mostly for gaming but i was told that a better cpu will help with my college work i am currently studying graphic design and use different programs from adobe

[kting15]

59 minutes ago, alejang015 said:

i use it mostly for gaming but i was told that a better cpu will help with my college work i am currently studying graphic design and use different programs from adobe

I mean if you're looking at upgrading your CPU for better productivity and are considering an 8th gen intel as a possibility, maybe you should take a look at a Ryzen 5 2600/2600X as well since you would have to buy a new motherboard. Getting a 2600 and an X470 motherboard would be less expensive and offer comparable performance at a lower price point than upgrading to Z370. At least that's what I've seen.

 

That being said, the 7700K can be run on the Z170 Chipset which would save you some money, but I dont think the performance delta between the 6600K and 7700K is really worth the $350 pricetag that it is going for on Amazon

[LogicWeasel]

4 hours ago, alejang015 said:

i use it mostly for gaming but i was told that a better cpu will help with my college work i am currently studying graphic design and use different programs from adobe

Did you look at benchmarks of those adobe programs and compare them to what you render at?  They do exist and they would tell you if you would actually get a real bump in performance compared to the CPU you have now.

 

It'd be hard for me to believe that unless you get something with 6-10 cores you will see anything >10% improvement (and considering how much you'd spend to replace cpu and mobo that'd be an expensive trade-off).

[pstarlord]

I'd throw a vote for going to Ryzen as well.  Price to performance can't really be beaten in my opinion, and being able to get 8 cores with 16 threads trucking along will have no problem with your graphic design work.  Plus, a 2700x should be able to overclock to a point where it'll give you improved single core speeds to help with your gaming as well. 

[TheRaggingSword]

55 minutes ago, pstarlord said:

I'd throw a vote for going to Ryzen as well.

But Adobe uses the intergrated graphics on intel chips which can make a decent difference. It still won't be as good as ryzen buts close enough that the better gaming performance will be more worth it

[alejang015]

2 hours ago, LogicWeasel said:

Did you look at benchmarks of those adobe programs and compare them to what you render at?  They do exist and they would tell you if you would actually get a real bump in performance compared to the CPU you have now.

 

It'd be hard for me to believe that unless you get something with 6-10 cores you will see anything >10% improvement (and considering how much you'd spend to replace cpu and mobo that'd be an expensive trade-off).

 believe it or not actually im dont feel like im spending that much rally it will cost me leaving my current processor and mobo + 100 $

 

[alejang015]

1 hour ago, pstarlord said:

I'd throw a vote for going to Ryzen as well.  Price to performance can't really be beaten in my opinion, and being able to get 8 cores with 16 threads trucking along will have no problem with your graphic design work.  Plus, a 2700x should be able to overclock to a point where it'll give you improved single core speeds to help with your gaming as well. 

yeah i was considering ryzen as an option but when i look at the products they have in the store they didnt have many options and in my country this is the best store for pc hardware we dont really have many others at least for high end

[alejang015]

3 hours ago, LogicWeasel said:

Did you look at benchmarks of those adobe programs and compare them to what you render at?  They do exist and they would tell you if you would actually get a real bump in performance compared to the CPU you have now.

 

It'd be hard for me to believe that unless you get something with 6-10 cores you will see anything >10% improvement (and considering how much you'd spend to replace cpu and mobo that'd be an expensive trade-off).

but the i5 8400 has 6 and 6 threads

 

[alejang015]

thankyou so much to the ppl that have replied so far

 

[LogicWeasel]

15 hours ago, alejang015 said:

 believe it or not actually im dont feel like im spending that much rally it will cost me leaving my current processor and mobo + 100 $

That statement doesn't make any sense.  You're telling us you can buy an i5 8400 and a new motherboard for just $100 (USD) ?  If that's actually true than go ahead and do it, but you have yet to tell us what country you're in so we can understand prices and what's available. 

 

Not sure why posters keep that information a secret when they ask for CPU upgrade and price advice.

[alejang015]

1 hour ago, LogicWeasel said:

That statement doesn't make any sense.  You're telling us you can buy an i5 8400 and a new motherboard for just $100 (USD) ?  If that's actually true than go ahead and do it, but you have yet to tell us what country you're in so we can understand prices and what's available. 

 

Not sure why posters keep that information a secret when they ask for CPU upgrade and price advice.

well im from paraguay and it will cost me 100$ because they are accepting my current hardware as payment

[LogicWeasel]

8 minutes ago, alejang015 said:

well im from paraguay and it will cost me 100$ because they are accepting my current hardware as payment

Thank you for that information, that really changes the picture.  I've never heard of a retailer accepting hardware as payment like a trade-in, that sounds like a pretty good deal then.  If they can offer an i7-8700k or a Ryzen R7 2700x (or even R5 2600x or similar) that would be a good group of CPUs to go for.  If they don't have those, then if your Adobe program workloads can benefit heavily from 6 real cores, perhaps the i5-8400 then.

[alejang015]

Just now, LogicWeasel said:

Thank you for that information, that really changes the picture.  I've never heard of a retailer accepting hardware as payment like a trade-in, that sounds like a pretty good deal then.  If they can offer an i7-8700k or a Ryzen R7 2700x (or even R5 2600x or similar) that would be a good group of CPUs to go for.  If they don't have those, then if your Adobe program workloads can benefit heavily from 6 real cores, perhaps the i5-8400 then.

well actually after reading what ppl said in this post i found and ryzen 5 2600 that is 17$ more than the i5 and a ryzen 5 2400g that is like 21$ less than the i5 just not sure what motherboard to pair it with and i heard ryzen kinda needs fast memory and my ram is just 2400mhz