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Wallmart kills OVERPOWERED Prebuilt PCs - [UPDATE - They're back!... Now with a $400 discount!]

Walmart has dropped the price of all the models by $400!

 

23 minutes ago, Jackson said:

I'm seeing price drops for all 3:

  • DTW1 $999.00 (From $1199)
  • DTW2 $1499.00 (From $1899)
  • DTW3 $1699.00 (From $2099)

Wow, those are some huge drops. Keep in mind the DTW1 was initially $1399 but was already dropped to $1199. They've all got $400 discounts across the board.

 

Let's do a price check compared to if you bought similar/matching components...

 

DTW1 - $999

 

DTW2 - $1499

 

DTW3 - $1699

 

Even when you consider things like the crappy PSU, crappy motherboard, single stick of 16GB of RAM on DTW1, and other nagging issues, the prices actually work out to be pretty good value for a pre built.

I really wonder if Walmart is clearing out existing stock/fulfilling contracts on the product line just to get rid of them. May even be selling at or below cost. They have been out for less than a month and are already seeing a $400 discount.

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Whomever steps foot in Walmart, most likely doesn't know shit about electronics, let alone a consumer accessible item like a desktop pc. They think hot snot glue is normal on the mobo LOL

 

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That is good they got rid of their pc's. Maybe they realized their errors.

Rebrand is a few weeks is all that will happen. Maybe some QC on the new vendor.

Too bad the vendors get stiffed like that, but hey the vendors knew what they were getting into.

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Just now, Canada EH said:

Whomever steps foot in Walmart, most likely doesn't know shit about electronics.

Seeing as I've stepped foot in a walmart, you're probably right.


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4 minutes ago, seon123 said:

GW isn't exactly a no name brand. They're one of the major PSU OEMs. They're the OEM of the Corsair SF, TXM, CS and CX. 

This is true, and their Corsair units are actually fairly good with the ones you listed.

However, I do not think that the particular unit used in the Walmart PC is a particularly good unit. Obviously since it's an OEM unit there's no reviews for the unit, and very little information available about it, however looking at it throws off a lot of red flags as to the quality of the unit.

 


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2 minutes ago, Canada EH said:

That is good they got rid of their pc's. Maybe they realized their errors.

I'm sure some individuals in the PC community reached out. It's not often a product is pulled from stores this quickly. Usually, they let the bad press roll over, and eventually discontinue it. 


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1 minute ago, Spotty said:

This is true, and their Corsair units are actually fairly good with the ones you listed.

However, I do not think that the particular unit used in the Walmart PC is a particularly good unit. Obviously since it's an OEM unit there's no reviews for the unit, and very little information available about it, however looking at it throws off a lot of red flags as to the quality of the unit.

 

Was the wattage 500W? I looked checked the six 500W 80+ certified ATX units from GW, and it didn't look like any of them. Unpainted and with a stamped grille. Didn't one of the reviewers say it was 80+ rated? Or am I just remembering wrong? Or the wattage?

https://www.plugloadsolutions.com/80PlusPowerSuppliesDetail.aspx?id=39&type=2


 

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3 minutes ago, firelighter487 said:

the lack of 80+ efficiency says it all. 

 

i have no problem with a 500W psu for a system that doesn't need anything more. the thing is you can get good one's that have that wattage and good efficiency. 

example: https://www.corsair.com/us/en/Power/Plug-Type/RMx-Series/p/CP-9020177-NA

Yeah true, you could also use a good quality 450W on a locked i7 8700 and a gtx1060. An 80+ bronze PSU is cheap enough to not cut corners on with a $1,200 gaming PC.

4 minutes ago, seon123 said:

GW isn't exactly a no name brand. They're one of the major PSU OEMs. They're the OEM of the Corsair SF, TXM, CS and CX. 

The GW units in these weren't even 80+ certified, i'm no PSU expert but doesn't Corsair design their own PSU's as well?

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Just now, seon123 said:

Didn't one of the reviewers say it was 80+ rated? Or am I just remembering wrong?

I think Tech Jesus saw that is said "80+" in small text on the label.  Not "80+ certified" or anything, just "80+"


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9 minutes ago, firelighter487 said:

the lack of 80+ efficiency says it all. 

 

i have no problem with a 500W psu for a system that doesn't need anything more. the thing is you can get good one's that have that wattage and good efficiency. 

example: https://www.corsair.com/us/en/Power/Plug-Type/RMx-Series/p/CP-9020177-NA

They were 80+. Says it in the model name.


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1 minute ago, Blademaster91 said:

design

Design ain't manufacture, it's just cheaper to pay someone else to put the pieces of your design together with your brand on it.


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Just now, Blademaster91 said:

The GW units in these weren't even 80+ certified, i'm no PSU expert but doesn't Corsair design their own PSU's as well?

Corsair has custom designs, yes. Here's a thing.

http://orionpsudb.com/corsair

The OEM just produces whatever they're paid to produce. If a company wants a high end unit, they can do it, if they want a cheap unit, they can do that too. 


 

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HyperX Cloud

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1 minute ago, Blademaster91 said:

The GW units in these weren't even 80+ certified, i'm no PSU expert but doesn't Corsair design their own PSU's as well?

Corsair don't manufacture their own PSUs, they're all made by OEMs. Great Wall, CWT, Seasonic, etc. Very few PSU brands actually make their units.

 

2 minutes ago, seon123 said:

Was the wattage 500W? I looked checked the six 500W 80+ certified ATX units from GW, and it didn't look like any of them. Unpainted and with a stamped grille. Didn't one of the reviewers say it was 80+ rated? Or am I just remembering wrong? Or the wattage?

https://www.plugloadsolutions.com/80PlusPowerSuppliesDetail.aspx?id=39&type=2

I'm pretty sure Steve from GN had a bit more detail on the PSU, so give his video a watch. From memory it wasn't 80+ certified so you'll have to watch it.


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2 minutes ago, Hunter259 said:

They were 80+. Says it in the model name.

No, not 80+ certified. Just because we call Steve tech jesus doesnt mean he's jesus. The name doesnt mean it's certified


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Just now, Jurrunio said:

No, not 80+ certified. Just because we call Steve tech jesus doesnt mean he's jesus.

You don't have to have the sticker you do know that right?


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Perhaps this means back to the drawing board.  You want a piece of the pie - fine, but do it right and just maybe consumers will look beyond their bias and skepticism (this is Walmart after all).

 

Shout-out to the tech reviewers keeping it real.


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@seon123  Here's where Steve from GN looks at the PSU.

 

 

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13 minutes ago, bellabichon said:

Yes, with fan filters, along with much better quality assurance. If you recall, Gamer's Nexus was given the wrong system, and Linus's GPU power cable came unplugged. They also hot-glued some motherboard cables, as shown in the Gamer's Nexus video.

Bitwit also was given a system with the GPU power cable not plugged in correctly.  If walmart had a bunch of returns because of unplugged GPU cables, that would be a reason to discontinue them.

10 minutes ago, Canada EH said:

Whomever steps foot in Walmart, most likely doesn't know shit about electronics, let alone a consumer accessible item like a desktop pc. They think hot snot glue is normal on the mobo LOL

That is good they got rid of their pc's. Maybe they realized their errors.

Rebrand is a few weeks is all that will happen. Maybe some QC on the new vendor.

Too bad the vendors get stiffed like that, but hey the vendors knew what they were getting into.

I wouldn't be surprised if Walmart has another vendor re-package all the components into different cases as a rebrand.

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9 minutes ago, Hunter259 said:

They were 80+. Says it in the model name.

80+ what?


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Just now, firelighter487 said:

80+ what?

80% chance of not exploding each time you turn it on.


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3 minutes ago, firelighter487 said:

80+ what?

80+. It's either a typo or a variation of the 85+ version.

 

http://www.gwoversea.com/T-series01.html

 

Appears to be a cheaper version of this.

https://www.chinahao.com/product/25254748456/


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My bet is that whoever they got to put the systems together is to blame for some of the QC issues people experience and after getting a few too many returns based on it they gave them the axe and as someone else mentioned, find a new company to repackage and re-certify them. Probably the same issue for the hot glue.

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