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Deciding either ryzen 7 2700x or i7-9700k mb+cpu+ram combo

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Posted · Original PosterOP

Greetings everyone, I did some research and can't decide on which side I should go for it.

At the moment I have GTX 1080 with overclocked i5-2500k (4.5 GHz with Hyper 212 EVO cooler) and decided that it's time to finish this build.

Gaming/work is probably 60/40 (at gaming I am aiming for 1440p 120/144hz) and work related stuff is mainly programming c++/java (long compile times are annoying)

Parts on which I am planning to go with:

TEAM RED:

CPU: Ryzen 7 2700x

MB:  ASRock X470 Taichi

RAM: G.Skill Trident Z 16GB (3200MHZ Cas 14 nonRGB)

OR

TEAM BLUE:

CPU: I7-9700k (will use Hyper 212 EVO cooler)

MB:Gigabyte Z390 AORUS PRO

RAM: G.Skill Trident Z 16GB (3200MHZ Cas 14 nonRGB)

 

The catch is that the combo price difference is only ~50 euro which doesn't make easier to decide. Hopefully you guys can give a push on decision making.

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First off, don’t get a Hyper 212 EVO for the 9700K. It’s not made to cool CPUs like that. 

In any case, I think I’d get the 9700K if you’re mainly gaming. 


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7 minutes ago, Dinamix said:

(will use Hyper 212 EVO cooler)

Please no.

 

I use the upgraded version 212X with a locked i7 8700 at 4.45ghz and it already runs with peaks on the mid 70c's to nearly 80c's at FULL load, having great air flow so I don't personally think you should cheap THAT much on cooling the 9700K


Workstation Rig:
CPU:  Intel Core i9 9900K @5.0ghz  |~| Cooling: beQuiet! Dark Rock 4 |~|  MOBO: Asus Z390M ROG Maximus XI GENE |~| RAM: 32gb 3333mhz CL15 G.Skill Trident Z RGB |~| GPU: nVidia TITAN V  |~| PSU: beQuiet! Dark Power Pro 11 80Plus Platinum  |~| Boot: Intel 660p 2TB NVMe |~| Storage: 2X4TB HDD 7200rpm Seagate Iron Wolf + 2X2TB SSD SanDisk Ultra |~| Case: Cooler Master Case Pro 3 |~| Display: Acer Predator X34 3440x1440p100hz |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro.
 
Personal Use Rig:
CPU: Intel Core i9 9900 @4.75ghz |~| Cooling: beQuiet! Shadow Rock Slim |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Z390M Gaming mATX|~| RAM: 16gb DDR4 3400mhzCL15 Viper Steel |~| GPU: nVidia Founders Edition RTX 2080 Ti |~| PSU: beQuiet! Straight Power 11 80Plus Gold  |~|  Boot:  Intel 660p 2TB NVMe |~| Storage: 2x2TB SanDisk SSD Ultra 3D |~| Case: Cooler Master Case Pro 3 |~| Display: Viotek GN34CB 3440x1440p100hz |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro.


HTPC / "Console of the house":

CPU: Intel Core i7 8700 @4.45ghz |~| Cooling: Cooler Master Hyper 212X |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Z370M D3H mATX|~| RAM: 16gb DDR4 3333mhzCL16 G.Skill Trident Z |~| GPU: nVidia Founders Edition GTX 1080 Ti |~| PSU: Corsair TX650M 80Plus Gold |~| Boot:  SSD WD Green M.2 2280 240GB |~| Storage: 1x3TB HDD 7200rpm Seagate Barracuda + SanDisk Ultra 3D 1TB |~| Case: Fractal Design Meshify C Mini |~| Display: Toshiba UL7A 4K/60hz |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro.
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9700k, but get a much better cooler. Even if you go 2700x you should get a better cooler.


CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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Posted · Original PosterOP

I mean that I already have Hyper 212 EVO (using for i5-2500k), which I was wondering if I can use it. What air cooler you recommend for i7-9700k?

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Just now, Dinamix said:

I mean that I already have Hyper 212 EVO (using for i5-2500k), which I was wondering if I can use it. What air cooler you recommend for i7-9700k?

Where are you from? budget?


Workstation Rig:
CPU:  Intel Core i9 9900K @5.0ghz  |~| Cooling: beQuiet! Dark Rock 4 |~|  MOBO: Asus Z390M ROG Maximus XI GENE |~| RAM: 32gb 3333mhz CL15 G.Skill Trident Z RGB |~| GPU: nVidia TITAN V  |~| PSU: beQuiet! Dark Power Pro 11 80Plus Platinum  |~| Boot: Intel 660p 2TB NVMe |~| Storage: 2X4TB HDD 7200rpm Seagate Iron Wolf + 2X2TB SSD SanDisk Ultra |~| Case: Cooler Master Case Pro 3 |~| Display: Acer Predator X34 3440x1440p100hz |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro.
 
Personal Use Rig:
CPU: Intel Core i9 9900 @4.75ghz |~| Cooling: beQuiet! Shadow Rock Slim |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Z390M Gaming mATX|~| RAM: 16gb DDR4 3400mhzCL15 Viper Steel |~| GPU: nVidia Founders Edition RTX 2080 Ti |~| PSU: beQuiet! Straight Power 11 80Plus Gold  |~|  Boot:  Intel 660p 2TB NVMe |~| Storage: 2x2TB SanDisk SSD Ultra 3D |~| Case: Cooler Master Case Pro 3 |~| Display: Viotek GN34CB 3440x1440p100hz |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro.


HTPC / "Console of the house":

CPU: Intel Core i7 8700 @4.45ghz |~| Cooling: Cooler Master Hyper 212X |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Z370M D3H mATX|~| RAM: 16gb DDR4 3333mhzCL16 G.Skill Trident Z |~| GPU: nVidia Founders Edition GTX 1080 Ti |~| PSU: Corsair TX650M 80Plus Gold |~| Boot:  SSD WD Green M.2 2280 240GB |~| Storage: 1x3TB HDD 7200rpm Seagate Barracuda + SanDisk Ultra 3D 1TB |~| Case: Fractal Design Meshify C Mini |~| Display: Toshiba UL7A 4K/60hz |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro.
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I would say intel, UNLESS your projects really are massive. If you're say, compiling a monolithic kernel for an OS (or a whole OS), an app as big as a microsoft office product, or a 3D game, then maybe consider the better mutlithreaded performance on ryzen. 

However, at the same time, I am also an advocate of using something like say, TravisCI (free for open source github projects) or some other remote build server to do this stuff for you. Don't bog down your PC with that stuff. I run my own server. You could too, or use a free tool like TravisCI, set up a free-tier AWS/GCP node to do it, or pay for a better one... If you're working with a team get everyone to pitch in for a proper CI solution... 

So if you can do any of those things, then probably intel. If not, and you are compiling huge stuff enough that it would be a legitimately better experience, go AMD


Main Gaming Rig: i7-7700K @ 5.0 GHz, GTX 1080 Ti, 32GB DDR4 2400, Modded Corsair 280x Case, Full Soft Watercooling
Second Testbench Rig: i7-4770K @ 4.6 GHz, RX 580 (air cooled), 16GB DDR3 1866, Thermaltake Core P3 White TG, CPU Soft Watercooling

Third Server Rig: R7 1700X @ 4.0 GHz, GTX 1080 Ti, 32GB DDR4 3000, Fractal Core 500, Full Soft Watercooling

Fourth LAN Rig: R5 3600X @ AGESA pls, RTX 2070, 32 GB DDR4 3200, Dan Case A4-SFV V4, 120mm AIO for the CPU

Fifth Router Rig: R3 2200G @ stock, 4GB DDR4 2400, what are cases, stock cooler
 

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3 hours ago, Dinamix said:

Lithuania, for cooler my budget is probably like 80 euros (possible to strech)

look up some of the 9700k  around 1.35w-1.4v, i've seen anywhere from 5.2-5.4ghz with the right cooling, it's pretty insane, this option is for gaming only; or you could just get a 2600 and upgrade to zen 2 next year for about the same price, i dont recommend a 2700x atm (zen 2/9700k will blow it out of the water if you need the frames). I actually think the 9700k is the choice here for gaming only.


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I am gonna say Intel. If you are aiming 120/144Hz. Also, because, the 9700K runs hotter than your 2500K you will need to buy a better cooler. 

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Posted · Original PosterOP
2 hours ago, tarfeef101 said:

I would say intel, UNLESS your projects really are massive. If you're say, compiling a monolithic kernel for an OS (or a whole OS), an app as big as a microsoft office product, or a 3D game, then maybe consider the better mutlithreaded performance on ryzen. 

However, at the same time, I am also an advocate of using something like say, TravisCI (free for open source github projects) or some other remote build server to do this stuff for you. Don't bog down your PC with that stuff. I run my own server. You could too, or use a free tool like TravisCI, set up a free-tier AWS/GCP node to do it, or pay for a better one... If you're working with a team get everyone to pitch in for a proper CI solution... 

So if you can do any of those things, then probably intel. If not, and you are compiling huge stuff enough that it would be a legitimately better experience, go AMD

Often for me it's the game engine core modifications forces to re-compile everything, which takes about 10min on SSD. Thanks for your suggestions to look into free-tier AWS with TravisCI!

 

3 hours ago, amusedschrodinger said:

Something beefy like the Scythe Fuma? That's under $50 USD right now. Not sure if it's available where you are.

Yeah we have them, it's +50euros here.

 

 

Thank you guys for suggestions, I decided that I will go with blue team. Now just need to find a decent cooler  :D

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