Need a alt OS that is not Linux, Windows or MACos

[Guest]

On 12/3/2018 at 2:57 AM, wasab said:

Android is Linux. You can install something like linuxdeploy to run Linux apps. 

Android isn't Linux, it uses Linux. But it doesn't have an x server or anything. Hence, normal Linux applications will most likely not run, way too many missing dependencies and no apt-get or anything.

On 12/3/2018 at 2:59 AM, wasab said:

Yes

No, freeBSD can't run Linux applications, it's not Linux.

[wasab]

34 minutes ago, timl132 said:

Android isn't Linux, it uses Linux. But it doesn't have an x server or anything. Hence, normal Linux applications will most likely not run, way too many missing dependencies and no apt-get or anything.

No, freeBSD can't run Linux applications, it's not Linux.

It is linux according to the adb uname command lol

 

 

[Guest]

42 minutes ago, wasab said:

It is linux according to the adb uname command lol

 

 

That means it USES Linux, the Android software set can also work on non-Linux systems like freeBSD. But you ARE correct that it uses Linux as it's kernel, that doesn't mean you can run Linux any application on it though. (Lot's of missing dependencies, no x11 server)

[jpenguin]

1 hour ago, timl132 said:

No, freeBSD can't run Linux applications, it's not Linux.

Since fewer applications are available for BSD than Linux, the BSD developers created a Linux compatibility package, which allows Linux programs to run under BSD.

https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/explaining-bsd/comparing-bsd-and-linux.html

[Guest]

1 minute ago, jpenguin said:

 

https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/explaining-bsd/comparing-bsd-and-linux.html

A Linux compatibility package doesn't mean it natively runs Linux applications, Linux can run Windows applications with Wine, does that mean Linux is Windows? NO. Does that mean you can throw any .exe file at Wine and it'l run fine? NO Does that mean it's natively supported? NO!

 

Sorry for the capitals.

[jpenguin]

1 minute ago, timl132 said:

A Linux compatibility package doesn't mean it natively runs Linux applications, Linux can run Windows applications with Wine, does that mean Linux is Windows? NO. Does that mean you can throw any .exe file at Wine and it'l run fine? NO Does that mean it's natively supported? NO!

 

Sorry for the capitals.

It isn't 100%, but it's better than WINE.  I never said natively.

[wasab]

1 hour ago, timl132 said:

That means it USES Linux, the Android software set can also work on non-Linux systems like freeBSD. But you ARE correct that it uses Linux as it's kernel, that doesn't mean you can run Linux any application on it though. (Lot's of missing dependencies, no x11 server)

Really, such argument is moot.

 

macOS can not run softwares from other Unix system depsite the fact Mac is certified as an Unix OS. 

 

Windows 10 will not run applications from Windows 98 despite both have the Windows trademark. 

 

On the other hand, you have OS like freebsd which is compatible and can like literally run nearly all Linux applications despite being not a member of the Linux family. It uses xserver too btw. What's funny, applications on one linux distro might not even be compatible with another unless you do some tweaks. A Linux server OS can go without a an xserver, running from only a command line interface thus incompatible with all GUI applications. You also certainly are not going to be running and installing .deb packages on none Debian based distros. 

 

With that being said, what label an OS as an OS boils down to a certain share core components. There is no such thing as use vs is. If a verhicle uses an engine to propell itself, it is defined as a mortorized verhicle. If an OS runs on top of Linux kernel, it is a Linux OS. 

[Nena Trinity]

Status update: The guys at Level1tech is currently reviewing the log file from my latest Linux Mint install, they may find a Linux solution but if not I did look into Android x86 by testing that on my Acer Aspire One with a Atom N270, 1GB RAM & 160GB IDE hard drive. (looks good but the app store keeps crashing...) OwO Edit: If Android x86 can run a Second Life variant that is not only text based & is free then it may do the trick...

[Guest]

22 hours ago, wasab said:

macOS can not run softwares from other Unix system depsite the fact Mac is certified as an Unix OS.

Obviously. When did I imply that it did?

22 hours ago, wasab said:

Windows 10 will not run applications from Windows 98 despite both have the Windows trademark.

Ok

22 hours ago, wasab said:

On the other hand, you have OS like freebsd which is compatible and can like literally run nearly all Linux applications despite being not a member of the Linux family.

I agree.

22 hours ago, wasab said:

It uses xserver too btw.

It doesn't. You can install an x server on it though. But you can do that on Windows and Android as well.

22 hours ago, wasab said:

What's funny, applications on one linux distro might not even be compatible with another unless you do some tweaks.

True

 

You have to think of Linux like the Windows NT kernel. The idea is the same on all distributions/versions. But it won't run on all of them.

22 hours ago, wasab said:

A Linux server OS can go without a an xserver

I know.

22 hours ago, wasab said:

running from only a command line interface thus incompatible with all GUI applications.

That is not true, you don't need an xserver to draw pixels to the display, not to mention there are is also wayland.

22 hours ago, wasab said:

ou also certainly are not going to be running and installing .deb packages on none Debian based distros.

Actually, dpkg exists as an installable package for other distro's as well, like fedora. Thus allowing .deb's to be installed on non debian distro's.

22 hours ago, wasab said:

If a verhicle uses an engine to propell itself, it is defined as a mortorized verhicle. If an OS runs on top of Linux kernel, it is a Linux OS.

True, but if you modified the Linux kernel, is it still a Linux OS? That's what Android did. It removed core Linux components and replaced it with it's own stuff.

[jpenguin]

4 hours ago, timl132 said:

It doesn't. You can install an x server on it though. But you can do that on Windows and Android as well.

 

Probably was actually talking about TrueOS  (PC-BSD)

 

[Guest]

On 12/4/2018 at 4:26 PM, timl132 said:

That means it USES Linux, the Android software set can also work on non-Linux systems like freeBSD. But you ARE correct that it uses Linux as it's kernel, that doesn't mean you can run Linux any application on it though. (Lot's of missing dependencies, no x11 server)

Actually things are different. 

Android has a specific set of minimal C libraries(very small set of syscalls, needed for basic usage and for the Android system), only very simple Linux programs will run on it. Basically the coreutils, busybox are fine. 

 

On 12/4/2018 at 4:48 PM, timl132 said:

A Linux compatibility package doesn't mean it natively runs Linux applications, Linux can run Windows applications with Wine, does that mean Linux is Windows? NO. Does that mean you can throw any .exe file at Wine and it'l run fine? NO Does that mean it's natively supported? NO!

 

Sorry for the capitals.

Also, the linux Freebsd compat is guaranteed through the kernel, it's like wine but whole better and advanced, also in kernel space (wine is not) 

Requires manually library installation and a lot tricky to set up

 

however, installing an X server on an android would be hard as hell, basically needs to be compatible with arm (for a phone) and respecting bionic c libraries, how would you install steam on it? wouldn't probably even run

And what about the X.org Qualcomm GPU driver? (always speaking of phones) 

 

edit: some glibc things are also kernel - dependent, so that may require a kernel recompilation as well while maintaining Android patches

 

edit2: I'm now thinking what could actually work, an X.org android client and basically running X. org apps from a chroot environment, but probably without hardware acceleration.  If the kernel doesn't complain... 

 

Responding to @Nena360 you wouldn't be able to run on Android x86 the same things as Linux, except for some simple programs, those Android distros are also hard coded to make Android services work. 

 

Honestly I would just suggest to try figuring out what's wrong with Linux, and just use it, because it's the simplest path for what you are trying to run

 

Edited December 6, 2018 by Guest

[Arika]

On 12/1/2018 at 5:29 AM, Nena360 said:

Firestorm (or another Second Life Client)

[wasab]

 

On 12/5/2018 at 9:51 AM, timl132 said:

Obviously. When did I imply that it did?

Ok

 

Why would you use app compatibility as a metric to declassified android as linux then

 

On 12/5/2018 at 9:51 AM, timl132 said:

 

It doesn't. You can install an x server on it though. But you can do that on Windows and Android as well.

 

Why would you use x server as a metric to declassified android as linux  then. Good luck with doing the latter bu the way. 

On 12/5/2018 at 9:51 AM, timl132 said:

 

 

You have to think of Linux metric the Windows NT kernel. The idea is the same on all distributions/versions. But it won't run on all of them.

 

 

Distros can switch kernel. Their software incompatibility has nothing to do with their kernel. It has more to do with certain dependencies, softwares and file structures unique to each distros.

On 12/5/2018 at 9:51 AM, timl132 said:

 

That is not true, you don't need an xserver to draw pixels to the display, not to mention there are is also wayland.

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If a linux server runs on command line interface, then it has no display server and no Wayland 

On 12/5/2018 at 9:51 AM, timl132 said:

 

Actually, dpkg exists as an installable package for other distro's as well, like fedora. Thus allowing .deb's to be installed on non debian distro's.

True, but if you modified the Linux kernel, is it still a Linux OS? That's what Android did. It removed core Linux components and replaced it with it's own stuff.

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.deb does not work for all distributions. dkpg and apt can be installed but there is no guarantee how well they will work considering the different system components. 

 

On 12/5/2018 at 9:51 AM, timl132 said:

 

True, but if you modified the Linux kernel, is it still a Linux OS? That's what Android did. It removed core Linux components and replaced it with it's own stuff.

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O.O Modified linux kernel has been used on countless Linux distros. Ubuntu has its own custom kernels. 

and your second sentence is just wrong wrong wrong.....

[duncannah]

Maybe fix ur pc instead

[Nena Trinity]

3 hours ago, duncannah said:

Maybe fix ur pc instead

There is nothing wrong with it, WIndows works, Ubuntu 14.04 works & another member on this forum had same issue a few months ago while looking for a fix.

[Guest]

45 minutes ago, Nena360 said:

There is nothing wrong with it, WIndows works, Ubuntu 14.04 works & another member on this forum had same issue a few months ago while looking for a fix.

Could you explain more about it? If ubuntu 18.10 still has issues, have you tried something bleeding edge like Manjaro?

 

Also: Specs, most detail and log as possible, kernel log (dmesg), verbose messages etc

[corrado33]

I'm still confused as to why you want an OS that's not one of the big 3 (or 4 if you count Unix).

 

My guess is that the reason is stupid considering you haven't told us yet. 

[Guest]

On 12/1/2018 at 7:47 AM, Nena360 said:

Motherboard not compatible with MACos, Linux keeps having USB error after 16.04 so I am looking for anything not Windows.

Sounds like you are using Ubuntu and thinking its Linux. Try Fedora. 

[INSERTNAMEHERE]

@Nena360 Well you talked about the purpose a bit but could you be more specific? As I can understand anything not NT or Unix like? That will be hard unless you are keen on starting a database. Most of the OS's mentioned are Linux flavors.

Even if people can't believe it its all the same kernel with maybe different versions and parts added/removed from it.

Worse thing yet if you don't like the Linux kernel: Linux is a Unix like, soo... thats very bad since it shares a lot especially on the low end with UNIX.

 

So you can really only go NT copies (of which I even spotted one which is friggin hilarious). If you don't understand NT copies are NT-like (So build like Windows in the inside...) but since you don't wan't Windows...

See where I am going here? What is your problem? Maybe we can solve that because its probably a lot easier to solve than finding an OS that doesn't really exist outside of misguided minds. Unless you want to write your own OS. In that case you might want brush up on your x86, C (probably Fortran too) and start writing the next ... 50 years of your life at least. (and crap yourself in the pants when everything is outdated in like 10 years or so)

 

I heard you have an USB issue on Linux (Ubuntu in that case)? Its sounds really stupid but you could actually switch to multiverse (as a apt package source).

Maybe your USB driver got licensed after 16.04 and you need a licensed driver which universe (thats the reason almost no productive human being uses it) won't have since it only contains locally sourced open source biodegradable software that is guarenteed to be worse than most of its counterparts but gives the regular Linux user (so basically every Ubuntu user) a warm feeling around the heart knowing the world is not going to end today. In the next step they install Chrome and destroy all their privacy they thought they gained by installing their favorite backwater distro (dude I know I use Chrome but HTML 5 bruh is changing so quickly, damn Google!). Or you could be the devils child and use partner for your package source which even has non-open-source software. 

 

I have to warn you though it will probably not work since drivers are usually somewhere contained in main.  

So if that does not work. Try Debian next it might not have the latest USB driver in their packages which means your ports might work. But Debian is pretty ugly like visually not pleasing at all IMHO. So lastly I can lay in some salt for the mint fans to pick up. You can try mint as well but it probably wont work with that either (since it did not work on Ubuntu) and TBH most mint people use it because of Cinnamon and don't use KDE which is superior in every way. (Konsole reigns supreme, love ya Matthias XOXO)

 

Either you move into the ether of Linux where everybody is sure that they have the best distro, flavor, desktop enviroment etc. and secretly still use Windows as a guilty pleasure or you just turn around having heard of some of this and just use Windows OR you say what your problem is and what you did to solve it. Maybe we plebs can help solve it.

 

[Guest]

On 12/6/2018 at 12:55 AM, Lukyp said:

Actually things are different. 

Android has a specific set of minimal C libraries(very small set of syscalls, needed for basic usage and for the Android system), only very simple Linux programs will run on it. Basically the coreutils, busybox are fine. 

 

Also, the linux Freebsd compat is guaranteed through the kernel, it's like wine but whole better and advanced, also in kernel space (wine is not) 

Requires manually library installation and a lot tricky to set up

 

however, installing an X server on an android would be hard as hell, basically needs to be compatible with arm (for a phone) and respecting bionic c libraries, how would you install steam on it? wouldn't probably even run

And what about the X.org Qualcomm GPU driver? (always speaking of phones) 

 

edit: some glibc things are also kernel - dependent, so that may require a kernel recompilation as well while maintaining Android patches

 

edit2: I'm now thinking what could actually work, an X.org android client and basically running X. org apps from a chroot environment, but probably without hardware acceleration.  If the kernel doesn't complain... 

 

Responding to @Nena360 you wouldn't be able to run on Android x86 the same things as Linux, except for some simple programs, those Android distros are also hard coded to make Android services work. 

 

Honestly I would just suggest to try figuring out what's wrong with Linux, and just use it, because it's the simplest path for what you are trying to run

 

You can just grab an X server from the playstore, and then connect to it with export DISPLAY=:0 works fine.

Steam won't run, it's x86/x64 only.

[Nena Trinity]

18 hours ago, Lukyp said:

Could you explain more about it? If ubuntu 18.10 still has issues, have you tried something bleeding edge like Manjaro?

 

Also: Specs, most detail and log as possible, kernel log (dmesg), verbose messages etc

Manjaro not yet, still wondering if the guys at Level1tech can figure out the stuff by looking at my logs.

(specs are in signature area its the one with FX-8370 & Vega 56...)

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Nov 25 21:12:52 kernel: tsc: Refined TSC clocksource calibration: 4581.983 MHz
Nov 25 21:12:52 kernel: [drm] Initialized amdgpu 3.23.0 20150101 for 0000:03:00.0 on minor 0
Nov 25 21:12:52 kernel: amdgpu 0000:03:00.0: kfd not supported on this ASIC
Nov 25 21:12:52 kernel: Console: switching to colour frame buffer device 240x67
Nov 25 21:12:52 kernel: fbcon: amdgpudrmfb (fb0) is primary device
Nov 25 21:12:52 kernel: [drm] pitch is 7680
Nov 25 21:12:52 kernel: sd 3:0:0:0: [sdd] Attached SCSI disk
Nov 25 21:12:52 kernel: sdd: sdd1 sdd2
Nov 25 21:12:52 kernel: sd 3:0:0:0: [sdd] Write cache: enabled, read cache: enabled, doesn’t support DPO or FUA
Nov 25 21:12:52 kernel: scsi 3:0:0:0: Direct-Access ATA ST2000DX001-1NS1 CC41 PQ: 0 ANSI: 5
Nov 25 21:12:52 kernel: ata4.00: configured for UDMA/133
Nov 25 21:12:52 kernel: sd 2:0:0:0: [sdc] Attached SCSI disk
Nov 25 21:12:52 kernel: sdc: sdc1
Nov 25 21:12:52 kernel: ata4.00: 3907029168 sectors, multi 16: LBA48 NCQ (depth 31/32), AA
Nov 25 21:12:52 kernel: [drm] UVD and UVD ENC initialized successfully.
Nov 25 21:12:52 kernel: sd 1:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI disk
Nov 25 21:12:52 kernel: sdb: sdb1 sdb2 sdb3 sdb4 sdb5
Nov 25 21:12:52 kernel: sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Attached SCSI disk
Nov 25 21:12:52 kernel: sda: sda1 sda2
Nov 25 21:12:52 kernel: sd 2:0:0:0: [sdc] Write cache: enabled, read cache: enabled, doesn’t support DPO or FUA
Nov 25 21:12:52 kernel: scsi 2:0:0:0: Direct-Access ATA ST2000DM001-1ER1 CC25 PQ: 0 ANSI: 5
Nov 25 21:12:52 kernel: sd 1:0:0:0: [sdb] Write cache: enabled, read cache: enabled, doesn’t support DPO or FUA
Nov 25 21:12:52 kernel: scsi 1:0:0:0: Direct-Access ATA Samsung SSD 850 1B6Q PQ: 0 ANSI: 5
Nov 25 21:12:52 kernel: ata2.00: configured for UDMA/133
Nov 25 21:12:52 kernel: sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Write cache: enabled, read cache: enabled, doesn’t support DPO or FUA
Nov 25 21:12:52 kernel: ata2.00: NCQ Send/Recv Log not supported

19:58:41 systemd: Started Hostname Service.
19:58:41 dbus-daemon: [system] Successfully activated service ‘org.freedesktop.hostname1’
19:58:41 systemd: Starting Hostname Service…
19:58:41 dbus-daemon: [system] Activating via systemd: service name=‘org.freedesktop.hostname1’ unit=‘dbus-org.freedesktop.hostname1.service’ requested by ‘:1.79’ (uid=1000 pid=2578 comm="gnome-logs " label=“unconfined”)
19:56:54 anacron: Job cron.daily’ terminated 19:56:52 rsyslogd: [origin software=“rsyslogd” swVersion=“8.32.0” x-pid=“929” x-info=“http://www.rsyslog.com”] rsyslogd was HUPed 19:56:52 systemd: Started Make remote CUPS printers available locally. 19:56:51 logger: no dictionary update necessary. 19:56:51 anacron: Updated timestamp for jobcron.daily’ to 2018-12-01
19:55:54 udisksd: Mounted /dev/sdc1 at /media/kmj/2TB Hard Drive on behalf of uid 1000
19:55:54 systemd: Started Clean the /media/kmj/2TB Hard Drive mount point.
19:55:54 mount.ntfs: Global ownership and permissions enforced, configuration type 7
19:55:35 systemd: Started Hostname Service.
19:55:35 dbus-daemon: [system] Successfully activated service ‘org.freedesktop.hostname1’
19:55:35 systemd: Starting Hostname Service…
19:55:35 dbus-daemon: [system] Activating via systemd: service name=‘org.freedesktop.hostname1’ unit=‘dbus-org.freedesktop.hostname1.service’ requested by ‘:1.73’ (uid=1000 pid=2578 comm=“gnome-logs " label=“unconfined”)
19:54:40 sudo: pam_unix(sudo:auth): auth could not identify password for [kmj]
19:54:22 systemd: Started Hostname Service.
19:54:22 dbus-daemon: [system] Successfully activated service ‘org.freedesktop.hostname1’
19:54:22 systemd: Starting Hostname Service…
19:54:22 dbus-daemon: [system] Activating via systemd: service name=‘org.freedesktop.hostname1’ unit=‘dbus-org.freedesktop.hostname1.service’ requested by ‘:1.69’ (uid=1000 pid=2248 comm=“xfce4-terminal --preferences " label=“unconfined”)
19:53:03 ntpd: Soliciting pool server 2a02:a18:7510:200::
19:52:37 systemd: Started Stop ureadahead data collection.
19:52:26 pulseaudio: [pulseaudio] bluez5-util.c: GetManagedObjects() failed: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.
19:52:26 dbus-daemon: [system] Failed to activate service ‘org.bluez’: timed out (service_start_timeout=25000ms)
19:52:22 systemd: Removed slice User Slice of lightdm.
19:52:22 (sd-pam): pam_unix(systemd-user:session): session closed for user lightdm
19:52:22 systemd: Received SIGRTMIN+24 from PID 2062 (kill).
19:52:22 systemd-logind: Removed session c3.
19:52:22 systemd: Stopped Session c3 of user lightdm.
19:52:21 systemd-timesyn: Synchronized to time server 91.189.89.198:123 (ntp.ubuntu.com).
20:52:17 lightdm: pam_succeed_if(lightdm:auth): requirement “user ingroup nopasswdlogin” not met by user “kmj”
20:52:16 systemd: Started Virtual filesystem service.
20:52:16 dbus-daemon: [session uid=110 pid=1999] Successfully activated service ‘org.gtk.vfs.Daemon’
20:52:16 systemd: Starting Virtual filesystem service…
20:52:16 dbus-daemon: [session uid=110 pid=1999] Activating via systemd: service name=‘org.gtk.vfs.Daemon’ unit=‘gvfs-daemon.service’ requested by ‘:1.1’ (uid=110 pid=1995 comm=”/usr/sbin/slick-greeter " label=“unconfined”)
20:52:16 systemd: Started Accessibility services bus.
20:52:16 dbus-daemon: [session uid=110 pid=1999] Successfully activated service ‘org.a11y.Bus’
20:52:16 systemd: Starting Accessibility services bus…
20:52:16 dbus-daemon: [session uid=110 pid=1999] Activating via systemd: service name=‘org.a11y.Bus’ unit=‘at-spi-dbus-bus.service’ requested by ‘:1.4’ (uid=110 pid=1995 comm=”/usr/sbin/slick-greeter " label=“unconfined”)
20:52:16 slick-greeter-s: New keyboard configuration: rules: evdev
model: pc105
layout: no
20:52:16 slick-greeter-c: Window scale: 1
20:52:16 dbus-daemon: [session uid=110 pid=1999] Successfully activated service ‘ca.desrt.dconf’
20:52:16 systemd: Started D-Bus User Message Bus.
20:52:16 (systemd): pam_unix(systemd-user:session): session opened for user lightdm by (uid=0)
20:52:16 systemd: Started Session c3 of user lightdm.
20:52:16 systemd-logind: New session c3 of user lightdm.
20:52:16 systemd: Starting User Manager for UID 110…
20:52:16 lightdm: pam_unix(lightdm-greeter:session): session opened for user lightdm by (uid=0)
20:52:13 nm-dispatcher: req:1 ‘connectivity-change’: start running ordered scripts…
20:52:13 systemd: Started Network Manager Script Dispatcher Service.

20:11:07 pulseaudio: [pulseaudio] bluez5-util.c: GetManagedObjects() failed: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.
20:11:07 dbus-daemon: [system] Failed to activate service ‘org.bluez’: timed out (service_start_timeout=25000ms)
20:11:02 systemd-timesyn: Synchronized to time server 91.189.91.157:123 (ntp.ubuntu.com).
21:11:01 wpa_supplicant: wlp7s6: CTRL-EVENT-SIGNAL-CHANGE above=1 signal=-36 noise=-86 txrate=240000
21:10:54 nm-dispatcher: req:1 ‘connectivity-change’: start running ordered scripts…
21:10:54 systemd: Started Network Manager Script Dispatcher Service.
21:10:54 dbus-daemon: [system] Successfully activated service ‘org.freedesktop.nm_dispatcher’
21:10:54 systemd: Starting Network Manager Script Dispatcher Service…
21:10:54 dbus-daemon: [system] Activating via systemd: service name=‘org.freedesktop.nm_dispatcher’ unit=‘dbus-org.freedesktop.nm-dispatcher.service’ requested by ‘:1.11’ (uid=0 pid=914 comm="/usr/sbin/NetworkManager --no-daemon " label=“unconfined”)
21:10:54 NetworkManager: [1543695054.2295] manager: NetworkManager state is now CONNECTED_GLOBAL
21:10:45 ntpd: new interface(s) found: waking up resolver
21:10:43 avahi-daemon: Registering new address record for fe80::6ec6:356b:3462:3861 on wlp7s6.*.
21:10:43 ntpd: new interface(s) found: waking up resolver
21:10:42 ntpdate: the NTP socket is in use, exiting
21:10:41 pulseaudio: [pulseaudio] pid.c: Daemon already running.
21:10:41 rtkit-daemon: Supervising 7 threads of 2 processes of 1 users.
21:10:41 pulseaudio: [pulseaudio] pid.c: Daemon already running.
21:10:41 rtkit-daemon: Supervising 7 threads of 2 processes of 1 users.
21:10:41 dbus-daemon: [system] Activating via systemd: service name=‘org.bluez’ unit=‘dbus-org.bluez.service’ requested by ‘:1.53’ (uid=1000 pid=1380 comm="/usr/bin/pulseaudio --start --log-target=syslog " label=“unconfined”)
21:10:41 rtkit-daemon: Supervising 6 threads of 1 processes of 1 users.
21:10:41 systemd-resolve: Using degraded feature set (UDP) for DNS server 192.168.38.1.
21:10:41 nm-dispatcher: req:2 ‘up’ [wlp7s6]: start running ordered scripts…
21:10:41 NetworkManager: [1543695041.8739] device (wlp7s6): Activation: successful, device activated.
21:10:41 dhclient: bound to 192.168.38.113 – renewal in 65401 seconds.
21:10:41 NetworkManager: [1543695041.8686] manager: NetworkManager state is now CONNECTED_LOCAL
21:10:41 avahi-daemon: Registering new address record for 192.168.38.113 on wlp7s6.IPv4.
21:10:41 NetworkManager: [1543695041.8637] dhcp4 (wlp7s6): state changed unknown -> bound
21:10:41 dhclient: DHCPACK of 192.168.38.113 from 192.168.38.1
21:10:41 wpa_supplicant: wlp7s6: CTRL-EVENT-SIGNAL-CHANGE above=1 signal=-48 noise=-86 txrate=1000
21:10:41 NetworkManager: [1543695041.7301] dhcp4 (wlp7s6): dhclient started with pid 1534
21:10:41 kernel: IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): wlp7s6: link becomes ready
21:10:41 wpa_supplicant: wlp7s6: CTRL-EVENT-CONNECTED - Connection to 34:21:09:2f:f0:c0 completed [id=0 id_str=]
21:10:41 systemd: Started Portal service.
21:10:41 dbus-daemon: [session uid=1000 pid=1246] Successfully activated service ‘org.freedesktop.portal.Desktop’
21:10:41 systemd: Started Portal service (GTK+/GNOME implementation).
21:10:41 dbus-daemon: [session uid=1000 pid=1246] Successfully activated service ‘org.freedesktop.impl.portal.desktop.gtk’
21:10:41 systemd: Started Virtual filesystem service - Apple File Conduit monitor.
21:10:41 dbus-daemon: [session uid=1000 pid=1246] Successfully activated service ‘org.gtk.vfs.AfcVolumeMonitor’
21:10:41 gvfs-afc-volume: Volume monitor alive
21:10:41 systemd: Starting Virtual filesystem service - Apple File Conduit monitor…
21:10:41 dbus-daemon: [session uid=1000 pid=1246] Activating via systemd: service name=‘org.gtk.vfs.AfcVolumeMonitor’ unit=‘gvfs-afc-volume-monitor.service’ requested by ‘:1.28’ (uid=1000 pid=1422 comm="/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/tumbler-1/tumblerd " label=“unconfined”)
21:10:41 systemd: Started Virtual filesystem service - Media Transfer Protocol monitor.
21:10:41 dbus-daemon: [session uid=1000 pid=1246] Successfully activated service ‘org.gtk.vfs.MTPVolumeMonitor’
21:10:41 systemd: Starting Portal service (GTK+/GNOME implementation)…
21:10:41 dbus-daemon: [session uid=1000 pid=1246] Activating via systemd: service name=‘org.freedesktop.impl.portal.desktop.gtk’ unit=‘xdg-desktop-portal-gtk.service’ requested by ‘:1.40’ (uid=1000 pid=1454 comm="/usr/lib/xdg-desktop-portal/xdg-desktop-portal " label=“unconfined”)
21:10:41 systemd: Started Bluetooth OBEX service.
21:10:41 dbus-daemon: [session uid=1000 pid=1246] Successfully activated service ‘org.bluez.obex’
21:10:41 obexd: OBEX daemon 5.48
21:10:41 dbus-daemon: [session uid=1000 pid=1246] Activating via systemd: service name=‘org.gtk.vfs.MTPVolumeMonitor’ unit=‘gvfs-mtp-volume-monitor.service’ requested by ‘:1.28’ (uid=1000 pid=1422 comm="/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/tumbler-1/tumblerd " label=“unconfined”)
21:10:41 systemd: Started Virtual filesystem service - digital camera monitor.
21:10:41 dbus-daemon: [session uid=1000 pid=1246] Successfully activated service ‘org.gtk.vfs.GPhoto2VolumeMonitor’

17 hours ago, corrado33 said:

I'm still confused as to why you want an OS that's not one of the big 3 (or 4 if you count Unix).

 

My guess is that the reason is stupid considering you haven't told us yet. 

I just want something that works! O3O (and is not WIndows, MacOS is out for AMD chipsets)

16 hours ago, RorzNZ said:

Sounds like you are using Ubuntu and thinking its Linux. Try Fedora. 

Fedora? Yeah tried that, got so confused I ditched it... (could not even log in or what ever)

15 hours ago, INSERTNAMEHERE said:

@Nena360 Well you talked about the purpose a bit but could you be more specific? As I can understand anything not NT or Unix like? That will be hard unless you are keen on starting a database. Most of the OS's mentioned are Linux flavors.

Even if people can't believe it its all the same kernel with maybe different versions and parts added/removed from it.

Worse thing yet if you don't like the Linux kernel: Linux is a Unix like, soo... thats very bad since it shares a lot especially on the low end with UNIX.

 

So you can really only go NT copies (of which I even spotted one which is friggin hilarious). If you don't understand NT copies are NT-like (So build like Windows in the inside...) but since you don't wan't Windows...

See where I am going here? What is your problem? Maybe we can solve that because its probably a lot easier to solve than finding an OS that doesn't really exist outside of misguided minds. Unless you want to write your own OS. In that case you might want brush up on your x86, C (probably Fortran too) and start writing the next ... 50 years of your life at least. (and crap yourself in the pants when everything is outdated in like 10 years or so)

 

I heard you have an USB issue on Linux (Ubuntu in that case)? Its sounds really stupid but you could actually switch to multiverse (as a apt package source).

Maybe your USB driver got licensed after 16.04 and you need a licensed driver which universe (thats the reason almost no productive human being uses it) won't have since it only contains locally sourced open source biodegradable software that is guarenteed to be worse than most of its counterparts but gives the regular Linux user (so basically every Ubuntu user) a warm feeling around the heart knowing the world is not going to end today. In the next step they install Chrome and destroy all their privacy they thought they gained by installing their favorite backwater distro (dude I know I use Chrome but HTML 5 bruh is changing so quickly, damn Google!). Or you could be the devils child and use partner for your package source which even has non-open-source software. 

 

I have to warn you though it will probably not work since drivers are usually somewhere contained in main.  

So if that does not work. Try Debian next it might not have the latest USB driver in their packages which means your ports might work. But Debian is pretty ugly like visually not pleasing at all IMHO. So lastly I can lay in some salt for the mint fans to pick up. You can try mint as well but it probably wont work with that either (since it did not work on Ubuntu) and TBH most mint people use it because of Cinnamon and don't use KDE which is superior in every way. (Konsole reigns supreme, love ya Matthias XOXO)

 

Either you move into the ether of Linux where everybody is sure that they have the best distro, flavor, desktop enviroment etc. and secretly still use Windows as a guilty pleasure or you just turn around having heard of some of this and just use Windows OR you say what your problem is and what you did to solve it. Maybe we plebs can help solve it.

 

Just need something that works, if it is NT based and usable enough to install the programs I need I might even try it, I heard ReactOS is ok but still beta...

45 minutes ago, timl132 said:

You can just grab an X server from the playstore, and then connect to it with export DISPLAY=:0 works fine.

Steam won't run, it's x86/x64 only.

Need steam or the ability to run WINE or something to make a few games work.

[Tristerin]

I read all of this...all of this...just to still not know why.

 

0/10 ending to this novel.

[Guest]

34 minutes ago, Nena360 said:

 

 

Fedora? Yeah tried that, got so confused I ditched it... (could not even log in or what ever)

 

I think you'll find the non-ubuntu based Linux distros to be just as, or more complicated! 

 

I'd give hackintosh another go: (Another user posted on this thread with your board)

Remember to use the appropriate boot flags and ask on the mackintosh forums, they can most likely help you, but people have had success with your board (another user used Multibeast. 

 

But if you are looking for something simple to use and setup (and works oob), then Windows is the only (not the best for any computer) way to go.

[Guest]

1 hour ago, Nena360 said:

Manjaro not yet, still wondering if the guys at Level1tech can figure out the stuff by looking at my logs.

Nothing strange from your specs... What kind of issue you got?

[Nena Trinity]

2 hours ago, Lukyp said:

Nothing strange from your specs... What kind of issue you got?

USB dies on me until CMOS reset, the issue moves over to Windows if I do not.