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MacOS Mojave, more like MacOS Vista...

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Posted · Original PosterOP

It's been a few months since I've installed a brand new macOS Mojave and I have to admit - what was Windows Vista to Windows XP, is macOS Mojave to macOS High Sierra. It turned my, reasonably aged, but still usable workstation MacBook Pro 2013 into poor performing Macbook Air that can handle only basic workload. No idea why or what's going on, as the reports are all over the place, aand it looks like Apple doesn't know either. 

And I'm not the only one. 
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/8565872

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2 minutes ago, PeterBocan said:

It's been a few months since I've installed a brand new macOS Mojave and I have to admit - what was Windows Vista to Windows XP, is macOS Mojave to macOS High Sierra. It turned my, reasonably aged, but still usable workstation MacBook Pro 2013 into poor performing Macbook Air that can handle only basic workload. No idea why or what's going on, as the reports are all over the place, aand it looks like Apple doesn't know either. 

And I'm not the only one. 
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/8565872

Maybe it's "preserving battery life" like the Iphones did a while back.  hehe  Kidding.

Well Apple wants you to buy some new hardware from them.  Are we theorizing that this is their method of doing that or are there issues with the OS that need to be fixed?

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Probably less optimized for older hardware. I've been running the developer betas of MacOS Mojave on my 2016 mbp since it's release in around June and its been much faster than than High Sierra. Maybe bring it into an Apple Store and see if they'll do anything or downgrade the OS. 


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Just Apple things, buy a new one or start using Windows.


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I'm glad the 2011 MacBook airs I just fished out to be repurposed only get to use up to Sierra, if Mojave isn't playing nice with old stuff


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thx for the info! thought about upgrading to Mojave but my old system (2012 mbp) got a considerable performance boost with Sierra (I'm not even on high sierra) and I don't wanna miss that!

Though the dark mode is tempting 


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55 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

start using Windows.

Normally I'd agree. But, with the crap going on with the latest windows update, I think I'd take slower performance over all my files being deleted.

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1 minute ago, HarryNyquist said:

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Well sure, just remember it's not every one who has issues, in fact it is still a small amount, like the "greatest" minority... I'm already on 1809 build and it works flawlessly to me... and that sweet sweet native Dark Theme for explorer.exe makes it all worth it.

 

Then again OS really is a preference choice, I also dislike plenty on Win 10 but at least it gives me the freedom to change it to behave and look a lot like Win 7 did mitigating most issues.


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Sounds like a personal issue. Mojave has been a much improved upgrade over High Sierra in every category for my 2016 nTB MBP. 


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Posted · Original PosterOP
1 hour ago, DrMacintosh said:

Sounds like a personal issue

me and another 500+ personal issues. It's either crappy hardware, or crappy software that causes the system to not function properly.

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3 minutes ago, PeterBocan said:

me and another 500+ personal issues. It's either crappy hardware, or crappy software that causes the system to not function properly.

Could be as simple as doing a reinstall from recovery. Updates can go wrong and make things slow:

Sometimes you just gotta start fresh. 

 


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Posted · Original PosterOP
2 hours ago, DrMacintosh said:

Could be as simple as doing a reinstall from recovery. Updates can go wrong and make things slow:

Sometimes you just gotta start fresh. 

 

I reinstalled Mojave, we shall see.

 

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10 hours ago, PeterBocan said:

It's been a few months since I've installed a brand new macOS Mojave and I have to admit - what was Windows Vista to Windows XP, is macOS Mojave to macOS High Sierra. It turned my, reasonably aged, but still usable workstation MacBook Pro 2013 into poor performing Macbook Air that can handle only basic workload. No idea why or what's going on, as the reports are all over the place, aand it looks like Apple doesn't know either. 

And I'm not the only one. 
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/8565872

2012 Mac Mini here. Updated to Mojave a couple of weeks ago mostly for the dark mode. Compared to High Sierra, Mojave is relatively more stable for me and has been a better experience so far. Sierra was horrible. I had multiple crashes on it every single day. 

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6 hours ago, Johnny4990 said:

2012 Mac Mini here. Updated to Mojave a couple of weeks ago mostly for the dark mode. Compared to High Sierra, Mojave is relatively more stable for me and has been a better experience so far. Sierra was horrible. I had multiple crashes on it every single day. 

Never had single issue with Sierra. With Mojave the UI got sluggish :D

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On 12/1/2018 at 5:21 PM, PeterBocan said:

Never had single issue with Sierra. With Mojave the UI got sluggish :D

so as you can see it varies. 

version X performs bad on one certain model of a machine does not make version X bad.

 

2017 non touch bar macbook pro.

High sierra was garbage. Went to apple store 2,3 times cos installing the OS caused too much issue for me. 

Mojave was great. 

 

Maybe you should try reinstall it OR roll back to the older version that works for you.

 


If it is not broken, let's fix till it is. 

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You need to buy a brand new, shiny, and overpriced MacBook pro. Why don't you wanna give apple your money? 


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