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should i upgrade or not ?

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Posted · Original PosterOP

hey guys

 

I am thinking about upgrading my pc because i think it is time for some new parts.

I mainly use my pc for gaming @ 1440p 60 hz, but i want to upgrade to 1440p 144 hz in the future

photography is also a hobby of mine so i will also be using my pc to edit some photo's in adobe photoshop.

 

Games that i play / want to play

Hitman 2

CoD black ops 4

Darksiders 3

Battlefield V

Far cry 5

 

My current system

 

CPU: intel i5-4670k ( 3.4 GHz ) i run it at stock speed because my fan broke. so i am using the stock cooler again

 https://www.amazon.com/2QX8541-i5-4670K-Processor-Socket-LGA-1150/dp/B00CO8TBOW/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1543245360&sr=8-3&keywords=intel+i5+4670k

 

MOBO: asus z87 sabertooth

 https://www.amazon.com/Asus-Sabertooth-Z87-1150-Motherboard/dp/B00CRJVZOM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1543245792&sr=8-1&keywords=asus+sabertooth+z87

 

MEMORY: 4 x 4 GB @ 1600 MHz 

https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-CML16GX3M4A1600C9-Vengeance-Desktop-Memory/dp/B0058J1QII/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1543246010&sr=8-1&keywords=Corsair+Vengeance+16GB+DDR3+1600MHz+(4+x+4+GB)

 

GPU: MSI Geforce GTX 1070

https://www.amazon.com/MSI-GTX-1070-TI-8G/dp/B076Q6GYKY/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1543246487&sr=8-3&keywords=msi+geforce+gtx+1070

 

for storage i have got 120 GB SSD for windows, a 500 GB SSD for games and 2 TB HDD for my other programs and some games.

i dont think they are worth linking, but if need be i can search for them.

 

My own upgrade suggestion:

 

CPU: AMD ryzen 5 2600

https://www.amazon.com/AMD-Processor-Wraith-Stealth-Cooler/dp/B07B41WS48/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1543247567&sr=1-1&keywords=amd+ryzen+5+2600

 

CPU Cooler: scythe mugen 5

https://www.amazon.com/Scythe-5PCGH-Cooler-Mugen-PCGH/dp/B06X9MPQ5Z/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1543247977&sr=8-1-fkmr0&keywords=scythe+smg+5+pcgh+cpu+cooler+mugen+5+pcgh+edition

 

MOBO: asus prime B450 plus

https://www.amazon.com/Ryzen-Gaming-Motherboard-Prime-B450-Plus/dp/B07FKT5CTH/ref=pd_sbs_147_3?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B07FKT5CTH&pd_rd_r=cb7bbaca-f193-11e8-9c63-45750980d7ef&pd_rd_w=P83n3&pd_rd_wg=7XVtb&pf_rd_i=desktop-dp-sims&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_p=7d5d9c3c-5e01-44ac-97fd-261afd40b865&pf_rd_r=FPW6FP3WC3J0QGDZ23NA&pf_rd_s=desktop-dp-sims&pf_rd_t=40701&psc=1&refRID=FPW6FP3WC3J0QGDZ23NA

 

Memory: Corsair vengeance LPX 16 GB ( 2x8 GB )

https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-2666MHz-Desktop-Memory/dp/B0123ZC44Y/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1543248157&sr=8-1&keywords=corsair+16gb+ddr4-2666

 

 

i will be re-using my PC case along with the drives, GPU and PSU.

if you want to know anymore so you can help me out better please ask ?

 

i'll be buying everything in the netherlands with a budget of 500 euro

 

please let me know if it's worth to upgrade or not.

 

 

 

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I myself would prefer even higher frequency memory (3000/3200MHz CL16) and MSI B450 boards. Even Asrock makes better boards (for the same price) than Asus or Gigabyte.


CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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I would go with 3000Mhz RAM for Ryzen. Also, R5 2600 for 144Hz 1440p is iffy. I would go with i5 8600k/9600k if I could.


Main system: i7 8700k 5Ghz / Asus Prime Z370-A / Corsair Vengeance 2x8GB 3000Mhz / Gigabyte RTX2080 Aorus Extreme / EVGA 750W GQ / Fractal Design Meshify C

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Seems like a good plan, but depends on what you're focusing on.

 

Any modern i5 equivalent CPU worth it's salt will be a good upgrade, but you want to try to squeeze the most out of this upgrade to prevent having to come back and upgrade again later. If you go ryzen, try to stretch for the 2700 or 2700X. If not, get an 8600k or try to stretch the extra for an 8700k.

 

You'll get better single-core (gaming) performance from an 8600k, but the 2700 will give you a nice boost for your photo editing. I'd recommend the 8600k outright, but I'm a bit of an Intel purist so take that as you may.


The build I'm currently working on, a mid-range budget mATX:

PCPartPicker part list

Type Item Price
CPU Intel - Core i5-8600K 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor $239.99 @ Amazon
CPU Cooler be quiet! - SHADOW ROCK TF 2 CPU Cooler $51.99 @ SuperBiiz
Motherboard MSI - B360M MORTAR TITANIUM Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $69.63 @ B&H
Memory Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $124.99 @ Newegg
Storage Crucial - MX500 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $74.89 @ OutletPC
Storage Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $58.89 @ OutletPC
Video Card EVGA - GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8 GB SC GAMING ACX 3.0 Black Edition Video Card $425.00 @ B&H
Case Corsair - Air 240 MicroATX Mid Tower Case $49.99 @ Newegg
Power Supply Corsair - CXM (2015) 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply $29.99 @ Newegg
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total (before mail-in rebates) $1205.36
  Mail-in rebates -$80.00
  Total $1125.36
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-11-26 13:10 EST-0500
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1440p/144 Hz gaming is in the domain of the 2080 Ti still, so unless you're ready to drop that type of money, I wouldn't think about that too much right now.

 

At 60 Hz, the 2600 is fine. 144 Hz gets hard because it's just hard in general. You'd really need at least a 8600k with a decent OC before it's really viable. (144 Hz in modern games really needs clocks above 4.5 Ghz, which is where 1st & 2nd Gen Ryzen comes up short.) Also, given your Photoshop mention.

 

 

That's the direction I'd recommend, but PCPartPicker also has a real lack of sellers in your country listed. I'm sure RAM can be had for cheaper.

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Posted · Original PosterOP
1 hour ago, Philostic said:

Seems like a good plan, but depends on what you're focusing on.

 

i mainly focus on gaming with my pc, i dont spend alot of time using photoshop compared to gaming.

so i will be looking into the 8600k i bit more.

 

1 hour ago, Taf the Ghost said:

1440p/144 Hz gaming is in the domain of the 2080 Ti still, so unless you're ready to drop that type of money, I wouldn't think about that too much right now.

okay lets forget about it, maybe in a few years with a complete new build.

1 hour ago, Taf the Ghost said:

I'm sure RAM can be had for cheaper.

the LEDs are nice but i dont care much for rgb inside my case, so i think i can find some cheaper RAM indeed.

 

 

i made this post to orientate myself for my upgrade, and you guys helped me alot,

i think ill save up some more money and upgrade to the 8600k with faster RAM in a few months

 

thank you so much :D 

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Tbh, corsair vengeance is priced pretty reasonably. In USD, there's a $20 difference between the RGB and non-RGB models.

Keep in mind, the 8600k is on a different socket type than that of your current cpu, so you will be needing a new mobo as well.


The build I'm currently working on, a mid-range budget mATX:

PCPartPicker part list

Type Item Price
CPU Intel - Core i5-8600K 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor $239.99 @ Amazon
CPU Cooler be quiet! - SHADOW ROCK TF 2 CPU Cooler $51.99 @ SuperBiiz
Motherboard MSI - B360M MORTAR TITANIUM Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $69.63 @ B&H
Memory Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $124.99 @ Newegg
Storage Crucial - MX500 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $74.89 @ OutletPC
Storage Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $58.89 @ OutletPC
Video Card EVGA - GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8 GB SC GAMING ACX 3.0 Black Edition Video Card $425.00 @ B&H
Case Corsair - Air 240 MicroATX Mid Tower Case $49.99 @ Newegg
Power Supply Corsair - CXM (2015) 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply $29.99 @ Newegg
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total (before mail-in rebates) $1205.36
  Mail-in rebates -$80.00
  Total $1125.36
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-11-26 13:10 EST-0500
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