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That's all I want to know! Please do not post videos talking about the board, I would rather have people tell me based off personal experience.

I’ve been using a 3700x for about six months now - upgraded from an FX8320. I recently was able to get my hands on a 5800x and popped it in my B550 board. After seeing benchmarks online that made this CPU just as appealing as a GPU upgrade, I found that my performance in games were quite literally little to none. Examples: Horizon Zero Dawn went from 73 FPS average to 75; Generation Zero went from 92 FPS average to 96. I thought that was strange because if you’re like me, a Zen 2 user who saw the huge gains from benchmarks and videos online, you’d have probably expected much better, right? Well, here’s the thing, and a lot of you have probably already said ‘there isn’t enough info or context,’ get ready. I’m gaming at 1440p on a 2070 Super. That’s where the issue lies. For those gaming at 1080p, you will likely see a much bigger difference than I did - obviously because the CPU is more stressed at lower resolutions. I didn’t even connect the dots when buying the CPU. So, here’s my warning/advice for those on Zen 2 or similarly-performing architectures such as 9th or 10th Gen Intel: wait. Wait for Zen 4 if you’re gaming at 1440p. Your CPU is already more than enough. Focus on a GPU upgrade if you must upgrade something. I will be returning my 5800x now. Obviously, this article does not speak of productivity performance as that’s a whole other issue you need to workout yourself. But for the gamers out there, hear my words. Thank you for your time

Recently made a post about how I'm unable to boot off a WD SN850 Gen 4 PCIe. If the PC is turned on from being off (not in sleep mode) I boot into BIOS and then I have to press the reset button on my case to boot into Windows. If I did not have this button I don't even think I would have had a way in. I fixed it by just installing Windows on my secondary SSD which is a WD SN750 but now I'm wondering if the 850 I got was just defective. Here is why: The drive is not detected in the BIOS. It sits in the first M.2 slot and the BIOS just says that nothing is in there. I have to reset CMOS for it to recognize the device but the second the PC is powered off and back on, the BIOS does not recognize it again and says nothing is plugged in. My motherboard is an MSI MPG X570 Gaming Edge WiFi on the latest non-beta BIOS version and the 850 is inserted in the boards compatible gen 4 slot. I do, however, have a Zen 2 CPU it's a Ryzen 5 3600x and from what I have gathered, it does not support gen 4 and will default to gen 3 but instead what I'm getting is that there is no SSD inserted. I even tried forcing the slot to boot as gen 3 in the settings but the same issue persists. Edit: Something I forgot to point out was that with the OS installed in the 850 both drives are detected in the OS even though I have to perform that extra step to boot into Windows. With the OS in the 750, the 850 is not recognized by the OS either.

I have a strange issue where the WD Black SN850 I just got will not be recognized by my PC BIOS after powering the computer on and off. If I look in the BIOS of my MSI motherboard M.2_1 says there is nothing connected but M.2_2 does say my other drive, the SN750 is recognized. The only way to have the 850 be recognized again is to shut off the PC, reset CMOS and then turn it back on but the second it turns back off, it will be forgotten when it's powered on again. Because of this, I was unable to load Windows into the 850 as planned (it's also the M.2 slot closest to the CPU) so I went with the secondary slot but everything boots well and boots fast. I'm just worried if there is any issue with the BIOS not recognizing my SN850? Windows 10 does recognize it, so that's good. I just want to make sure there won't be any future conflict if it's not read in the BIOS. The previous SSD was recognized it was a Samsung 970 Evo Other relevant hardware: Motherboard: MSI MPG X570 Gaming Edge WiFi CPU: Ryzen 5 3600x I thought maybe my CPU would be the issue but on the motherboard manual it states that if I'm running a Zen 2 CPU, any Gen 4 SSD inserted into its gen 4 slot (where it's currently inserted) will just boot as gen 3. Doesn't say anything about incompatibility or not appearing. Unless the CPU incompatibility with gen4 speeds just makes it so it doesn't appear?

I don't know why but my memory is isn't sinchronize with infinity. But in bios everything is as it should be. So I don't know where is problem. The latency is awful, but I can't improve it, even when I'm changing timings primary and secondary. It does not matter what I do. Here are some screenshots and photo from bios.

Hi, everyone, as the title says. I'm upgrading to an MSI B550 MPG Gaming Carbon WIFI with a Ryzen 9 3900X. What settings on the BIOS should I disable to avoid the high idle temperatures? (I'm new to 3rd Gen Ryzen) I have a be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 air cooler and my ambient room 73.3 Fahrenheit at the moment. I'm not planning to overclock the CPU. Specs I have: Windows 10 (2020 October Update) MSI 370X Gaming Pro Carbon Ryzen 7 1800X EVGA RTX 2070 Super G.Skill Trident Z RGB 32 GB ( 4 X 3 ) DDR4-3200 CL16 Corsair RMx (2018) 750W 80+ Gold be quiet! Dark Rock 4 Pro Edit: Forgot to list the GPU, my bad.

Hello I am new to this forum, I just upgraded my mobo b450 to b550 while waiting on avaiable zen 3 CPU. I was able to post while using r5 2600, unfortunately evey time I try to "OC" my ram PC will not post, anything more than 2000 MHz and it goes into bootloop. Curentlly running MSi B550 Gaming Plus ASUS Radeon RX 5700 XT Dual Evo AMD Ryzen 5 2600 GOODRAM 32GB (2x16GB) 3600MHz CL17 IRDM PRO (on asrock 4pro I was able to set it up to 3400 MHz cl16) 650W powesupply Anyone have any idea if I can do anything to resolve this issue? Edit. I was able to OC to 3333mhz (I think that I will be able to get above 3500 stable) CL 16 tRCD 19 tRP 19 tRAS 36 tRC 56 I have no idea what could be the issue (CPU temp were aslo higher than on b450 but it seems to stablize itself) I will probably do more testing when I am not so bussy with work. If anyone have any tips it will be appreciated.

AMD 3800XT ---> 380€ AMD 5600X ---> 290€ If i get the 5600x my MOBO options are those: MSI B550-A PRO ---> 140€ + CPU price of 380€ = 430€ total MSI MPG B550 GAMING PLUS ---> 145€ + CPU price of 380€ = 435€ total If i get the 3800XT my MOBO options are those: GIGABYTE B450 AORUS ELITE ---> 85€ + CPU price of 380€ = 465€ total ASUS ROG STRIX B450-F GAMING ---> 115€ + CPU price of 380€ = 495€ total The PC will be used for Amateur Music / Video editing mainly and some Gaming from the kids. I couldnt really decide which is the better option and decided to ask you guys! From my own research i've found out that the 5600x is newer generation with Zen 3 and 3800XT is Zen 2, but with 2 extra cores instead. Thank you in advance for your time!

Hi, so I just upgraded from a Ryzen 5 3400g to a Ryzen 5 3600 as I recently got a dedicated GPU (RX 590 8gb). Corsair iCue shows my CPU idling at 39 - 51 degrees celsius. Is this normal? I've tried some steps to decrease it, I've re-installed Corsair iCue to see if that had broken after the upgrade, nothing changed, I've flashed my motherboard's (Gigabyte X570 Gaming X Rev 1.0) BIOS to version F31, no change, I've installed AMD chipset drivers, no change. I decided as a last resort before checking my thermal paste application to turn to the forum and see if I can get any help from here, the thermal paste I use is Arctic MX4 and when upgrading I felt like I put too much on but now I'm thinking I put too little. I'd say maybe a large pea amount was put on. I did clean the thermal paste off my AIO as well before I put it on the CPU. I've attached a screenshot of corsair icue's graph.

Help! My Zen 2 Ryzen 9 3900x is idling at 85c! My rig is set up in an Lian Li O11 XL with 10 fans: Three 120mm exhaust through the 360mm H150i AIO rad at 1200RPM, Three 120mm side intake at 1200RPM, Three 120mm bottom intake at 1200RPM, and one rear 120mm exhaust at 1400RPM. There's good airflow around the case and the pump in the AIO is set to 2700RPM. I set the power plan to "AMD High Performance" using the Control Panel, so my CPU is operating at ~1.400v, 4.257GHz. The only non-cooling elements are my AMD ROG Crosshair VIII Formula MoBo, GPU (Aorus 2080s triple fan intake), 4 DIMMS of aluminum heatsink RAM, an ElGato 4K60 capture card, an actively cooled 850W TT PowerCool PSU, two NVMe SDDs, a Samsung QVO SATA SSD, and the fan/LED controllers. I suspect the power plan is the culprit. I'm not much one for OCing or BIOS tweaking, so I haven't changed anything there. Is it the Power Plan or am I doing something else wrong?

Sup. I have the x370 CROSSHAIR VI HERO wifi and I want to update my bios from version 1602, I installed when I got the mobo all those years ago, to support Zen 2. Do I just install the latest version or are there any bios' I need to update to in between? Can't seem to find anything on the support page mentioning it

Is the FCLK 1:1 one on these chips? I really wanna know since the more interesting 4800S is about to hit the market and comes with a RX 6600, so what speeds does its FCLK run at? Is it even 1:1? I seen some test show the bandwith to be insane tough...

I bough this RAM kit: https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232861?Item=N82E16820232861 This is my MOBO: https://www.newegg.com/msi-meg-x570-ace/p/N82E16813144259?Item=N82E16813144259 CPU: Ryzen 3950x I am willing to buy a more premium RAM kit if game performance is +10 FPS above what I could achieve tuning my current RAM kit (just ordered, not delivered jet) using Ryzen DRAM Calculator EDIT: I'll be playing in 4k if that matters.

Hey folks! I'm curious to hear the experience of various zen2 owners... How much to expect from a zen2 chip to manually oc at 1.3v? (as I've heard buildzoid managing to degrade his 3700x at @1.36v) I know overclocking zen2 ain't worth it and all that stuff but I'm still curious.

Hi my question is which b450 boards support zen 2 out of the box not just the msi b450 tomahawk but every one of them if possible

Using Ryzen Master to OC my 3600X. Got to 4.4 All core at 1.375V. Before I start backing the voltage down seeing if I can maintain it at .35 or .325 what is the actual max safe for normal use on Zen 2? Would .385 or .395 be safe to see if I can push to 4.45 or 4.5?

Alas, my dear 2700k.. You have served me well but she's showing her age now. With a 2070 Super due to arrive tomorrow I think it'll be too much. i.e bottleneck anyhow! The lowdown: I play AAA titles at 1080p and I have recently got back into twitch streaming! looking to upgrade CPU means I will have to make the jump to DDR4 meaning new CPU Mobo and RAM so my real question is, Streaming/gaming CPU what are your recommendations? 3700x worth it? or does the Intel 9700k IPC performance still prevail in gaming? I do like the prospect of 16 Ryzen threads for streaming and multi-tasking ( of which there will be a lot of) Or is it worth the jump upto Ryzen 9? please throw me your CPU and/or Mobo recommendations current setup: Usage - 1080p Gaming + Twitch streaming. i7 2700k @4.5GHz 16GB Corsair vengeance DDR3 @1866 Asus P8Z77-WS Board GTX980 X2 (RTX2070 Super arrives tomorrow!) Sabrent NVMe 256GB boot drive 3X WD green 1TB drives for games Corsair Spec-06 Case Future upgrades? Looking to move to 1440p high refresh or 4K 60Hz on my Primary display - 1080p on secondary (twitch monitor) new board opens up more NVMe expension so replace HDDs with 1TB nvme instead. thanks guys, stay safe!

They have said that Zen will be a four year architecture, but they haven't specified if it will work on am4 motherboards.

Hello, I am in the process of picking ram for a build. This will be my first build so excuse my ignorance and incorrect terminology. My current parts are Ryzen 3700x with an asrock x570 taichi. I have been doing a bit of research on ryzen zen 2 and ram. I was looking at following amd's price/perf recommendation of 3600 mghz cl16. I have my eyes set on some G.skill trident Z neo 3600 Mhz ram 4x8gb. The G.skill ram I am looking at hasHynix J chip However, I have read that ryzen does well with the samsung B-die. Does the chip make any difference for performance if they are both on the QVL? https://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/X570 Taichi/#MemoryMS

Looking to hit tighter timings and higher clockspeeds, but I seem to be stuck between a rock and a hard place. Recently upgraded from my r5 2600. Same board though I decided to upgrade my ram from 3k @ 15cl, to something in the ballpark of 3.8k @ 14cl. Currently using an r5 3600 and the asus b450m tuf mobo. AEGESA and bios up to date as well as chipset drivers and things of the like. SHOULD I CONSIDER RAM OC IN RYZEN MASTER? This is my current ram, though I haven't gotten anywhere with it. I managed to squeeze 3.6k @ 16cl but thats far from ideal considering the quality of the chips inside. https://docs.wixstatic.com/ugd/20c502_7b7d9bc41542430ab2563558456075a3.pdf It claims a cas latency of 19 @ 4133, though we all know ryzen don't like that shit. Thermals aren't an issue. I've changed many of the voltages and have PBO off in all capacities. I attempt to run FLCK in the 1:1 ratio specified by AMD, but I seem to have a ceiling @ 1800mhz. Ram is currently @ 3.2k, shit timings, 1.4x volts. I'm at a loss for words and have no clue how to proceed. I've watched the LTT vids on ram and ryzen COUNTLESS times and I can't seem to consistently replicate their results across 3 different kits of ram. I've used the ryzen ram tool to no real avail, just another CMOS reset and reconfiguration until I have bootable timings, though always really latent (70+ ns 3600mhz @ cl 16; 1.4v ). Can't find much on this specific kit of ram and would appreciate any and all help lowering timings and reaching higher clockspeeds. TYTY

the mobo is the msi x570 a-pro and the cpu 3600 ryzen 5, the only pcie device i have in a slot is my gpu which is the gtx 1050ti 4gb. i dont know why these things show up

Hello fellow people of the internet! I am posting this because I am currently deciding between a 2700x and a 8700k for a build. Well while doing research I came across this on UserBenchmark. https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-8700K-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-3600/3937vs4040 It claims the 3600 is going to be 200 dollars and is only performs 2% according to there chart. Fake news or possibly leak?

Im using a B450 Asus Tuf gaming motherboard and im planning to upgrade to the 8 core 3rd gen ryzen, i want to get the highest clock speed possible because i only game and im sure the 8 cores will be more than suffcient. I know that disabling multi threading reduces power consumption so this makes me think that theres potential to get better clocks by disabling this on lower end motherboards. Am im being nieve or could this potentially help me out if im going to be limited by the power i want to push through my vrm, further more would this be enough to make the 12 core a viable option on this motherboard? Motherboard - https://www.newegg.com/asus-tuf-b450m-plus-gaming/p/N82E16813119141?item=N82E16813119141&ignorebbr=1&source=region&nm_mc=knc-googleadwords-pc&cm_mmc=knc-googleadwords-pc-_-pla-_-motherboards+-+amd-_-N82E16813119141&gclid=Cj0KCQjw9JzoBRDjARIsAGcdIDWLGnNQy-RI1_PA6ggZ6bq87R-DmeZl5lrgHk_aaXZrHls7I9bOB-gaAnj1EALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

Looks like BIOS'es are already being updated for PCI-E gen4.

Intro It seems like everyone is now buying into Zen 2 (myself included) and everyone (myself included) who has bought in is noticing what seems to be high voltage readings while your machine is sat idle. I've noticed a huge amount of topics being created surrounding this issue so I decided to create this thread where hopefully we can all pool together and share discussion. I've personally done lots of research on this issue and testing on my 3800X and I know others here have too. What exactly is the issue? Zen 2 CPUs seem to be using A LOT of voltage while at stock settings, we're talking 1.4v plus at all times while idling at desktop, I've personally seen mine go over 1.5v and I've heard reports of 1.6v plus from some people. Temperatures also seem to be higher than expected, I can personally say my 3800X is around 10c hotter than my 2700X was in the exact same system, same cooler and actually better heat paste. Some people (myself included) are also experiencing fans in the system randomly increasing and decreasing in speed and finally some users are reporting that their system is powering down after a few hours. Have AMD responded to these concerns? They have indeed. Over at this reddit post an AMD employee has made the following detailed post about these concerns... (PLEASE READ THIS POST VERY CAREFULLY AS IT CONTAINS IMPORTANT INFORMATION) What happens now then? The first thing you do is try Michael's recommendations from above. That is as follows Only use Ryzen Master to monitor voltages, close all other monitoring apps Make sure the Ryzen Balanced profile is loaded in Control Panel > Power Make sure that voltage is set to either Auto or Normal in BIOS, if Normal is present use that otherwise use Auto Do not try and undervolt the CPU manually Make sure Corsair iCue, NZXT Cam and GeForce Experience are not running, these apps are known to cause Zen 2 to never idle After following these recommendations close all background applications you possibly can and then run Ryzen Master and leave your computer alone for 5 minutes, do not touch the mouse or run anything. Watch the Core Voltage reading and check if it is dropping below 1.4v at all, it doesn't matter if it only drops for a split second, as long as it drops your CPU is operating normally. I followed these steps and my Voltage doesn't drop below 1.4v? Don't panic, these steps did not fix my CPU either. First thing, please head over here and fill out this survey for AMD. Many people are experiencing these issues and many are reporting "fixes", what I will do is list them here. Remember that each oone is a standalone fix, try the steps outlined exactly then follow the instructions below to check if it worked for you Fix 1 (This one worked for me and multiple other people here, try this first) Open Control Panel > Power Options Select the High Performance profile Click Change Plan Settings Click Change Advanced Power Settings Scroll to Processor Power Management and click the Plus Sign Set Minimum State to 1% and Maximum State to 100% Click OK and close the window Repeat the testing and check your Voltage is dropping Fix 2 Open Control Panel > Power Options Select the AMD High Performance profile Repeat the testing and check your Voltage is dropping Fix 3 Disable Performance Boost Override in BIOS Fix 4 (Not recommended by AMD) Set a voltage offset of minus 0.1v in BIOS (-0.1v) Will these issues be fixed in the future? Here's the funny thing, we don't actually know if this is an issue or not? Its very unlikely AMD intended for Zen 2 to suck up 1.4v at idle but the platform is so new that its entirely possible it is behaving as intended and we're all just worrying over nothing. The second point is about managing expectations. Every person is different and what they expect from a platform is also different, personally I expect my CPU to idle and not run at 40c while literally doing nothing. I don't think that's an unreasonable expectation nor is it one i expect to be unpopular but remember, just because we think its not operating normally doesn't mean that its not operating normally. Now to answer the question, if this is indeed and fault then I would expect AMD to fix it in firmware, that would mean an AGESA update which would be delivered to us via a BIOS update from our motherboard manufacturers. Zen 2's firmware is still very much in BETA anyway so more AGESA updates will be coming no matter what. Keep an eye on your boards support website for BIOS updates, you should be installing anything that comes out but ITS VERY IMPORTANT YOU INSTALL ANY BIOS THAT HAS AN AGESA UPDATE INCLUDED. If and when any AGESA update is released I will update this thread with details. Hopefully this thread can help out some people, if you have a concer then please post it, as well as myself there are lots of users here running Zen 2 that will be happy to help. Thanks for reading. Edit 30/07/19 Lots of fresh information and a new driver release from AMD. Before updating please do the following... Open Control Panel > Power Options Click Advanced Settings Select any default Windows profile For any Ryzen profile click Change Profile Settings Click Remove Profile Repeat steps 4 & 5 for all Ryzen profiles After you've removed all the Ryzen profiles install the updated driver from here. There's also been an update to Ryzen Master and AMD now recommend you use only that to monitor temps and voltage. Get it from here Finally a new AGESA update has been sent to board manufacturers and is currently undergoing testing so please keep an eye out for a new bios release in the next few days.